You know PHF has a really good deal on it. I hope I'm allowed to say that.
Nice, I am interested in this...
So what's the deal they banned the PH to deinolone but not actual deinolone? lol
I love loopholes!![]()
So what's the deal they banned the PH to deinolone but not actual deinolone? lol
But if that's the case. It's makes me wonder why we've been taking pro deinelone in the first place? Is deinelone not available for oral consumption?
thats why someone needs to release a di ethyl dienolone product.
it'd kick ass and take names all over the gym.
a 17 ethyl group would give ethyldienolone which i think may have made it to market at one point in time. they ethyl gives it high oral activity
the 13 ethyl would probably increase its potency considerably
a combination of the two alterations would give a compound listed as (orally) 860 androgenic and 1450 anabolic. That is against norethandrolone as a standard (100) Norethandolone is 0.25 - .55 times as androgenic and 1-2 times anabolic as methyltestosterone. Do the math and it appears the compound is very potent with a great anabolic androgenic index.
Being potent probably means its harsh on the liver and the HPTA though. Thats just how it goes
I doubt it, pa would of picked that up if it was. he's the one who told me about the power of di ethyl dienolone.
860 androgenic and 1450 anabolic
kickin ass & takin names mutha funka
That's up there or similar to M1T ain't it?..only it's way more androgenic
yea, but numbers are a bit scewed. it's referenced to norethandrolone, which is stronger than methyl test and m1t's standard is methyl test.
so take that into account, and it's possibly stronger than m1t, and def more androgenic.
if cel were to make a comeback to the ph market. it should be with this.
blow all others out the water. ha ha ha ha ha :lmao:
a man can dream..........
I'll be getting some for sure, will log it if you guys want me to.
I'd have to say P-plex(if that's what you're running) would probably be the best thing to stack Dienolone with. You've got the right idea. It's low androgenic value and Madol's high androgenic value makes for a stellar combo. Huge gains with your libido protected (until the latter part of the cycle).
I'm gonna be starting that real soon. (afaik)
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you have access to p-plex???
hook it up you SOB!
i remember i ran tren-x and phera it 25lbs easy in 30 days.
The guy who runs the show is good to go. He's just running into a lot of issues that a lot of new comers run into when trying to get a new company off the ground. He even sent me a bottle for free for my troubles. I had ordered it, he didn't have it because of distribution issues. He quickly refunded my money and gave me a free bottle when he had it. Great guy. The reviews are accurate...
ZERO side effects from what I can tell. This is at 8 sprays ( 75 mg a day ). I'm on a 1000 caloric deficit. I gained 3lbs and went from 15%bf to 9.5 in 30 days. I'm currently sitting at 217.5 lbs.
Gaining weight on a caloric deficit? Dropping 5.5 points in body fat? Zero sides? I felt completely fine the entire time. This product is gold.
Only bad thing? 100% completely dead libido. I would recommend using AndoHard to combat issue.
Hope this helps...:newbie:
How long before your libido gets back up?As soon as you get off?After your finished with SERM?
I wish someone would sell the powders so I can make my own TD.
Because he is an old schooler this board was founded on TD recipes and applications.
was gonna go with oral tren til i saw this, i got it ordered when it was 39.99...two bottles for 6 weeks, running it through a bridge of bdrol 3 weeks, epi last 4. **** will be epic.
i guess...diferent strokes for different folks.
i would like to see someone try and make their own androMass. lol that would take a while
you mean like 1-ad/4-ad, well that isn't hard.
neither would 1mt/4-ad.
or do you mean with an ester attached to it?
1 shot of g/f juice
1 cap of 300mg dhb
1 shot of coconut oil
1 each of 300mg 4-andro-diol/1-andro-diol
mix contents together, let sit over night, mix again, down the hatch.
superior absorbtion!
just kidding. :lmao:
lmao
i have to admit i wanna try that too.
haha okay.
...yeah i make my own Gear. i extract test from my animals ( i live in a farm)
cows balls=superdrol
chickens=epistane
dogs=anadrol
lol
I keep it old school and extract my test from male urine.
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i know right! lol
i dont remember where i read it...but a guy had an idea of doing this bridge/stack something like this (i may be wrong since i dont remember)
SD - 20/20/20/0/0/0
Epi - 0/0/30/40/40/40
Tren - 120/120/120/120/120/120
problem with this was such a over kill on the liver...and i've already ran a cycle of superdrol.
but i ran with the idea and replaced SD with boladrol, and found trenazone to ease off the liver and replace x-tren, with even better gains...i pretty much had came in my pants at that point. :woohoo:
lol
oh yeah well i get mine from Jay Cutler's urine
lol
sounds awsome in theory, but just the bola & epistane are going to kill your liver, add in dienolone (either the ph to it, or str8 dienolone doesn't matter) and you are going to destroy it.
not that i wouldn't run it, im just saying, dont think transdermal dienolone is any less harsh on the liver than pro dienolone.
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sounds awsome in theory, but just the bola & epistane are going to kill your liver, add in dienolone (either the ph to it, or str8 dienolone doesn't matter) and you are going to destroy it.
not that i wouldn't run it, im just saying, dont think transdermal dienolone is any less harsh on the liver than pro dienolone.
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if you dont mind me asking, could you explain how a transdermal can be harsh to the liver? i'm not being a smart ass, just wanting to learn.
maybe cuz its systematic so eventually its gonna get into bloodstream and some will have to be processed by liver.
idk thats my guess, but im sure trenazone is not going to cause liver stress compared to something like SD.
yeah see thats what i thought, was it was going into the bloodstream so it wouldnt have to go through the liver, where as anything you take orally does. i mean sure if its in the bloodstream it may go through the liver, but it doesnt have the first pass like orals and get broken down in the liver. therefore i would imagine it would be a lot safer? idk...
idk, all i know is im gonna get a bunch of bottles of that stuff. :147: