Frankly, I am sick of the little bra & panty tickle fight between JBry and the PP reps, HTS in particular. Yes, I realize he can come across either abrasive or arrogant, but when a poster posts doubts or speculation about a product based on some anecdotal evidence of the base compounds etc I feel instead of the "skirt" comments or what not, maybe HTS could take the "higher" Rep road and address it with a little more info or objectiveness, rather than personal distaste for the guy. People paying this much for the product or potential customers should be able to voice concerns, and some have, and the reps have handled it professionally, but HTS has seemingly decided to get pitty-patty with Jbry instead of being a true "rep" for PP. Personally, i would rather see the doubters post, supporting their doubts with real info, and have it addressed in the same fashion. I dont care about the doubters saying" its too damn much money" and having those issues addressed, as much as to the issues of efficacy. Just my observation, but to those of us who read these threads for info, and to see some express doubt or concerns, and have them tackled head-on by the reps, its gotten old watching the hair-pulling contest between the 2 said parties.