Young Gotti
Well-known member
PES makes some very affordable and boss supplements
Pes Shift ?
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Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
They definitely do. For a new company, Performance Enhancing Supplements proves that you don't need to have an extensive line-up to make an impression - their products speak for themselves re results, and the company name and recognition will only get bigger and better. Performance Enhancing Supplements' products are EFFECTIVE and provide with excellent results - already Alpha-T2 has become a STAPLE in my supplement arsenal, and I want Erase to be.
~Rosie~
thebigt
Legend
absolutely-don't forget pes is prop blend free.
DreamWeaver
Legend
That would be nice.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
thebigt
Legend
exactly-at-2 daytime, shift before bed.:bling:
DreamWeaver
Legend
All I know is I started AT-2 and OEP early this week (was already using erease) and damned if I don't already notice a difference. I keep telling myself I must be crazy and maye I was leaner than I thought. Oh and this must be how hot flashes feel...
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
You definitely notice a difference - I know I did, and the biggest difference is when I run out and have to go without either Alpha-T2 or Erase, especially Erase! Alpha-T2/Erase is a great stack for your goals, Doug
~Rosie~
thebigt
Legend
you are not crazy, lol. i take a couple of days a week off at-2 but run it almost continuously. i got crazy cravings running a test booster w/daa in it and blew my diet. gained 8 pounds, but i don't think bf% went up. at-2/erase is a fantastic duo.
btw-i am thinking 2 at-2 1st thing in morning and 1 at-2 in afternoon and then 2 shift before bed. hopefully that isn't too much 3,3.
DreamWeaver
Legend
You definitely notice a difference - I know I did, and the biggest difference is when I run out and have to go without either Alpha-T2 or Erase, especially Erase! Alpha-T2/Erase is a great stack for your goals, Doug
~Rosie~
Great to know. I have Monica my trainee anxious for this stack as well. Should be in stock by monday...
dat dude
Member
I think I read 600-800 mcgs of 3,3 is the dose a person my start to experience sides. Of course each person is different. I'll do a search to make sure. Maybe someone else can chime in if I'm wrong.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
I will post up some good stack info once the product is available.
Once you see how I set it all up, you will understand why we released to product and why it will work so good in so many peoples fat loss stacks, or as a solo.
Once you see how I set it all up, you will understand why we released to product and why it will work so good in so many peoples fat loss stacks, or as a solo.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
There wont be a pre-sale, just an intro sale when stock arrives. As soon as stock arrives, the sale is launched!
DAdams91982
Board Sponsor
Yeah, after the Erase over selling way to quick, and the shipping company delay, probably better to just wait till the stock arrives.
DreamWeaver
Legend
If they offer a Shift Erase stack, I'll be all over it like white on rice....
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Not surprising about Erase - it's one of the best (if not THE best!) natural testosterone booster out there!
~Rosie~
monstermash
Well-known member
X2 waiting to make my purchase with a select few other goodies :biggthumpup:
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Definitely! Alpha-T2 and Erase are staples of mine (and yes, I notice the difference when I am not using them, waiting for more)
DreamWeaver
Legend
Definitely! Alpha-T2 and Erase are staples of mine (and yes, I notice the difference when I am not using them, waiting for more)
Yah where is that dang truck...
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Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Yah where is that dang truck...
Maybe you shouldn't have stolen it, Doug :toofunny:
DreamWeaver
Legend
:wtf: That was supposed to be our little secret!! :28:
oufinny
Well-known member
I charge to keep secrets, a box of each sent my way please. :grouphug:
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
I am going to see if I can get some tracking on the shipments. They move at a snails pace
RogerBob
Banned
crewchief182
Member
I bought six bottles of Shift during a special promo deal. Unfortunately, after running 3 bottles as directed, it didn't do shift for me. Still love the original Anabeta and Erase though!
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Some find that Alpha-T2 works better than Shift for them - I know it's like that for me.
~Rosie~
RogerBob
Banned
You need the 3,5 really, imho.
What is 3,3’ Diiodo-L-Thyronine?
Also known as 3,3’-T2, this is a naturally occurring metabolite of thyroid hormone.
Where does T2 come from?
In order to explain this, a brief explanation of the basic endocrinology surrounding the thyroid must be explained:
A hormone called TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) is released from the anterior pituitary gland in the brain. It binds to receptors on the thyroid gland and this is what signals for the production and release of thyroid hormones, T3 and T4. There are many biochemical reactions, which create different metabolites of these hormones. 3,3’-T2 is one of these naturally occurring metabolites, and actually turns out to be active, contrary to what was once believed.
What does 3,3’-T2 do?
Although not as potent and active as T3 (which is a prescription drug) or 3,5-T2, 3,3’-T2 has been shown to have some benefits. It increases liver oxidation consumption and, most notably, it has activity in brown adipose tissue independent of protein synthesis (1,2). This is very important because even though T3 has extensive fat burning effects, it also has detrimental actions in muscle. In fact, one study found that for every 3 pounds of fat lost with T3, 1 pound of muscle was lost as well (3). This does not appear to be the case with 3-3’-T2. In addition, studies have found that T2 does not suppress TSH enough to the point where the thyroid has any change in activity (4).
The research on the T2 metabolites is still in its infancy so there may be plenty of exciting benefits that this compound has that we are not aware of yet. Research on other thyroid hormone metabolites (such as 3,5-T2) has been very positive.
1. Lanni A, et al. "Calorigenic effect of diiodothyronines in the rat." J Physiol 1996 Aug 1;494 (Pt 3):831-7
2. Goglia F, et al. "Action of thyroid hormones at the cellular level: the mitochondrial target." FEBS Lett 1999 Jun 11;452(3):115-20
3. Lovejoy JC, et al. "A paradigm of experimentally induced mile hyperthyroidism: effects on nitrogen balance, body composition, and energy expenditure in healthy young men." J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1997 Mar;82(3):765-70
4. 3,5-Diiodo-L-thyronine (T2) has selective thyromimetic effects in vivo and in vitro. SG Ball, J Sokolov, and WW Chin. Journal of Molecular Endocrinology, Vol 19, Issue 2, 137-147
What is 3,3’ Diiodo-L-Thyronine?
Also known as 3,3’-T2, this is a naturally occurring metabolite of thyroid hormone.
Where does T2 come from?
In order to explain this, a brief explanation of the basic endocrinology surrounding the thyroid must be explained:
A hormone called TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) is released from the anterior pituitary gland in the brain. It binds to receptors on the thyroid gland and this is what signals for the production and release of thyroid hormones, T3 and T4. There are many biochemical reactions, which create different metabolites of these hormones. 3,3’-T2 is one of these naturally occurring metabolites, and actually turns out to be active, contrary to what was once believed.
What does 3,3’-T2 do?
Although not as potent and active as T3 (which is a prescription drug) or 3,5-T2, 3,3’-T2 has been shown to have some benefits. It increases liver oxidation consumption and, most notably, it has activity in brown adipose tissue independent of protein synthesis (1,2). This is very important because even though T3 has extensive fat burning effects, it also has detrimental actions in muscle. In fact, one study found that for every 3 pounds of fat lost with T3, 1 pound of muscle was lost as well (3). This does not appear to be the case with 3-3’-T2. In addition, studies have found that T2 does not suppress TSH enough to the point where the thyroid has any change in activity (4).
The research on the T2 metabolites is still in its infancy so there may be plenty of exciting benefits that this compound has that we are not aware of yet. Research on other thyroid hormone metabolites (such as 3,5-T2) has been very positive.
1. Lanni A, et al. "Calorigenic effect of diiodothyronines in the rat." J Physiol 1996 Aug 1;494 (Pt 3):831-7
2. Goglia F, et al. "Action of thyroid hormones at the cellular level: the mitochondrial target." FEBS Lett 1999 Jun 11;452(3):115-20
3. Lovejoy JC, et al. "A paradigm of experimentally induced mile hyperthyroidism: effects on nitrogen balance, body composition, and energy expenditure in healthy young men." J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1997 Mar;82(3):765-70
4. 3,5-Diiodo-L-thyronine (T2) has selective thyromimetic effects in vivo and in vitro. SG Ball, J Sokolov, and WW Chin. Journal of Molecular Endocrinology, Vol 19, Issue 2, 137-147
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
That is going to depend on the individual. I love Alpha-T2 because it does NOT contain 3,5 - which only screws my body up and makes me UNfunctional. Each to their own, and if you want a product with 3,5 in it, there are plenty out there.
~Rosie~