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Morry's pretty much sold on going injectables

thundergod said:
Do you not even have your gear yet?

I would think it's time to get that taken care of. :thumbsup:
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Nah, I was just talking about Halotestin.


Everything else is already on the way. less than 2 weeks
 
morry said:
Nah, I was just talking about Halotestin.


Everything else is already on the way. less than 2 weeks
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Gotcha.

Halotestin is awesome stuff bro. I'm McLuvin' it!!! :woohoo:

20 mgs. one hour pre-workout.............



:redeemerwhore:
 
alvin1 said:
In for the ride !
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Good to have you here.

Halostein may be added.....

Could I just run it after the test p and start at week 5 and run it till 10. 20 mg 1 hour b4 workout sounds about right?
I'll prob workout 6 days a week, but will only take Halostein 5 days of the week to account for the dosage if I ran it a full.

I'm not decided yet. I'm reading a little more but it isn't much to add to the cycle....
 
morry said:
Good to have you here.

Halostein may be added.....

Could I just run it after the test p and start at week 5 and run it till 10. 20 mg 1 hour b4 workout sounds about right?
I'll prob workout 6 days a week, but will only take Halostein 5 days of the week to account for the dosage if I ran it a full.

I'm not decided yet. I'm reading a little more but it isn't much to add to the cycle....
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DBOL FTFW
 
morry said:
Good to have you here.

Halostein may be added.....

Could I just run it after the test p and start at week 5 and run it till 10. 20 mg 1 hour b4 workout sounds about right?
I'll prob workout 6 days a week, but will only take Halostein 5 days of the week to account for the dosage if I ran it a full.

I'm not decided yet. I'm reading a little more but it isn't much to add to the cycle....
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Even though I'm taking the Halotestin and lovin' it, I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to you. It's not very anabolic at all, meaning it won't put very much mass at all on you. It's mainly for strength athletes, powerlifters, strong-men, boxers, and MMA fighters who need instantaneous aggression and strength for their events. It's very androgenic and will harden up an already lean physique but that's about it.

If your goal is mass increases, I'd say go with D-Bol or Anadrol. If your goals are recomp and leaning, I'd recommend some oral Winny.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'd probably do the same as you or even worse if I lost one of my bros.

I think you are definitely on the right path with choosing injectables, I'm always mad paranoid about screwing up my liver with orals.

Just make sure you use clean, brand-new needles, every single time. Clean the area with alcohol. Also, try to get some one to inject it for you, one of my friends was injecting it into himself and he hit a nerve and couldn't sit down for a few days, lol.
 
VeganMike said:
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'd probably do the same as you or even worse if I lost one of my bros.

I think you are definitely on the right path with choosing injectables, I'm always mad paranoid about screwing up my liver with orals.

Just make sure you use clean, brand-new needles, every single time. Clean the area with alcohol. Also, try to get some one to inject it for you, one of my friends was injecting it into himself and he hit a nerve and couldn't sit down for a few days, lol.
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I am a little worried, but I'll manage. I have 25 gauge 1 inch right now,if eveything goes well and it is easy to withdrawl and inject, I'll order some more 27 gauge. I'm just wondering if I inject in my quads, will it be obvious to a woman that I'm screwing that I have injection site?
 
morry said:
I am a little worried, but I'll manage. I have 25 gauge 1 inch right now,if eveything goes well and it is easy to withdrawl and inject, I'll order some more 27 gauge. I'm just wondering if I inject in my quads, will it be obvious to a woman that I'm screwing that I have injection site?
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I was using Test Suspension about 5-6 days ew, ontop of Test Cyp, Tren E, EQ 2x ew, and all of my shots were in the ole' quads and my girl never noticed anything. Its not really that noticeable, especially if you have hair on your legs.
 
tim1985 said:
I was using Test Suspension about 5-6 days ew, ontop of Test Cyp, Tren E, EQ 2x ew, and all of my shots were in the ole' quads and my girl never noticed anything. Its not really that noticeable, especially if you have hair on your legs.
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That makes sense. Yup, got some hair on the ole quads.

9 days if everything goes as planned. I gotta order my protein in a couple days. prob going to order 40lbs, but I'll sell 10 to my buddy.....
 
morry said:
That makes sense. Yup, got some hair on the ole quads.

9 days if everything goes as planned. I gotta order my protein in a couple days. prob going to order 40lbs, but I'll sell 10 to my buddy.....
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sell 10 to me bish


yuhhhh:afro:
 
dude i pinned with a 23g last night, all this time i had been pinning wit ha 25g and it went in so much easier :) 23g ftw!!!
 
SouthernCharm said:
dude i pinned with a 23g last night, all this time i had been pinning wit ha 25g and it went in so much easier :) 23g ftw!!!
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Good to hear. I've always used a 25g and it's not so easy to push through. I'm gonna grab me some 23g syringes next time.
 
I am on week 1 of my test E cycle At 500mg wk with a SD kick start... my plans were to loose body fat before i started cycle but didnt do as well as i would have liked with all the delicious holiday cooking:) This is my first injectable cycle but I was wondering if i can expect to loose any belly fat with test? my diet consist of 6-7 meals a day consisting of mainly chicken, brown rice, and some sort of green veggie for at least 3 of the meals...2 tbl spoons of peanut butter and hand full of almonds and fruit for in between meals...

i have arimidex on hand to keep estrogen in check..was wondering will be advantagious to use it? And if so will it help with leaning out while on cycle?

Any advice is great
 
wolfe14 said:
I am on week 1 of my test E cycle At 500mg wk with a SD kick start... my plans were to loose body fat before i started cycle but didnt do as well as i would have liked with all the delicious holiday cooking:) This is my first injectable cycle but I was wondering if i can expect to loose any belly fat with test? my diet consist of 6-7 meals a day consisting of mainly chicken, brown rice, and some sort of green veggie for at least 3 of the meals...2 tbl spoons of peanut butter and hand full of almonds and fruit for in between meals...

i have arimidex on hand to keep estrogen in check..was wondering will be advantagious to use it? And if so will it help with leaning out while on cycle?

Any advice is great
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I just started mine today. I'm logging it. Link is in my sig.

Anyhow, I think there are compunds out there that help recomp more than others, but the vast majority of things relies on you and your diet. If your workouts are intense and your diet clean, I think you will loose fat and gain muscle at the same time. You won't loose as much fat as if you have been on a straight cut. You won't gain as much muscle as if you were on a straight bulk. You will/can do both, but most will not recommend doing this.
I've had good luck with a lot of oral compounds. The one constant in all of it was intense, focused training and a good, clean diet.
 
Thanks...But in general assuming clean diet and good training will I loose fat? i know it's a pretty vague question but was curious....Also my question about throwing in the adex, is that neccessary? And will it help me lean out?
 
wolfe14 said:
Thanks...But in general assuming clean diet and good training will I loose fat? i know it's a pretty vague question but was curious....Also my question about throwing in the adex, is that neccessary? And will it help me lean out?
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Gotcha, I didn't mean to ignore part of your question.

Yes having an AI on hand is a good idea just in case Estrogen starts running wild. That being said there is a lot to consider when using an AI that isn't a suicide inhibitor. I use Letro bc I am prone to having estro sides. If you overuse it, it will limit your gains and follow this logic: Adex doesn't permenently attacht to aromatase, so if you run it everyday while on cycle, then stop, guess what? REBOUND. Because your body will be in overdrive producing aromatase, but you won't be giving it an AI anymore. But using a suicide inhibitor will can make estrogen too low and then it will take a while for the body to respond and recover. This is why I'm leaning torwards running an no suicide AI on cycle (so I can adjust levels quickly), then trasistion into a suicide AI at a lower dose (to control the rampant aromatase). This approach should allow the body to adjust by itself bc it will slowly regulate the amount of aromatase and causes your body to reach equalibrium with few estro related sides.
Yes, running an AI while on Test will keep the test in your system test instead of a partial conversion, which MAY lead to more lean body mass and less fat (as test does this on its own), but the continuation of that isn't really possible (rebound killing your lean look). Additionally, you need a little estrogen for libido and mass gains. Over-limiting it can cause your growth to be limited.
You will eventually rebound, now all you got to do is decide how to deal with that phase of your cycle. The approach I described is what I will be doing this cycle. I get better and better each time I cycle. I will have some other things in there too.

Hope I answered your question
 
so if Im understanding you correctly, i sould run a low dose of adex on cycle if estro goes wild but then at the end of cycle I need to transition into a suicide inhibitor to prevent rebound?? What are some examples of suicide inhibitors?
 
Right, I'd say you got the idea. Entire PCT will be
1).6MG of cjc-1295dac. GH releaser
2).1 bottle of Sarms s1. Anabolic
3).1 bottle of forma-stanzolol A.I and 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. (or possibly exemstane for an oral version)
4). 2 HCGenerate
5).1 Bulbine natalensis Natural A.I and most powerfull test booster on the market

The forma OR exemstane are both Suicide AI's

This was suggested by a guy on here, I have the link in the page before this one. I will have Tamoxifen on hand as well. If my recovery goes well, I won't use a SERM. SERMs actually increase free estrogen in your system. I want to avoid it all together bc it can increase etrogen, but at the same time, I may not want to. I will see how things go, bc as I understand it, a SERM does increase Estrogen bc it makes the body compete for the estrogen receptors and in turn the body creates more estrogen in order to have more to compete with the SERM at the receptor. This action must also trigger natural test bc the body will try to make more estrogen by making more test and trying to convert it via aromatase. So using a suicide AI (AT A LOW DOSE) in conjuction with a very low dose of a SERM (I'm thinking 10mg of tamox) might be the money spot.
Keep in mind I'll be running HCG so my recovery should be much quicker, which is why I may not even use the serm. If I get off cycle and get that feeling of complete shut down, I'll prob toss a serm in the mix.
We'll see.
 
Present and correct,

reporting for duty!!!!!!!!

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edwitt said:
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reporting for duty!!!!!!!!

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http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/166685-morrys-test-p.html

this one....this was when I was planning it out. Either way, good to have you here. I'm still following yours and Jesus you are making some progress.


I'm still thinking about that suspension.
You think you could use it on a cycle like this in weeks 11 and 12 when the ethanate is clearing out to keep test levels up? It has a horrible half life so it would be out of your system fast.
 
either suspension or prop is good for that. the suspensions are often water based, so if you were also injecting a water base winny you could use the same syringe.
 
EasyEJL said:
either suspension or prop is good for that. the suspensions are often water based, so if you were also injecting a water base winny you could use the same syringe.
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Now you got me thinking.......
 
EasyEJL said:
either suspension or prop is good for that. the suspensions are often water based, so if you were also injecting a water base winny you could use the same syringe.
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I've read that it's totally okay to mix water based steroids with oil based in the same syringe. :thumbsup:
 
how long till the libido effects of test e kick in??? im on my 3rd injection of 250 mgs with beastdrol kickstart and im actually having problems getting a woody...somethings not right!! maybe the SD??
 
wolfe14 said:
also when injecting into the ass cheek should it be loose or should i tighten the butt muscle?
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Were all diffeent but most say about 4 weeks until test e fully kicks in but libido should be up around weeks 2-3

Aas far as your glutes are concerned it all depends how lean the muscle is but I always flex whatever the site. I can get away with a 1/2 slin pin in my tris when that r flexed but illbuse 1" in delts, traps and quads prob would go with a 1 1/2" in the glutes

So whats ur approx bf% and what size pin u using ?
 
edwitt said:
Were all diffeent but most say about 4 weeks until test e fully kicks in but libido should be up around weeks 2-3

Aas far as your glutes are concerned it all depends how lean the muscle is but I always flex whatever the site. I can get away with a 1/2 slin pin in my tris when that r flexed but illbuse 1" in delts, traps and quads prob would go with a 1 1/2" in the glutes

So whats ur approx bf% and what size pin u using ?
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BF% is probably mid teens according to the gadget at the gym..im using a 1.5 inch needle...I guy I know told me to lean and put all my weight on the side i am NOT injecting into which would loosen up my cheek that im shooting in...but then im stuck wondering if it got into the muscle or not....???
 
Okay. I have a question concerning HCGenerate.

I'm having trouble finding HCG, which concerns me because I'd love to run my cycle 12 weeks and finish off my bottle, but that is too long without HCG, which I currently don't have.

In RussianStar's PCT write-up, he advises using hcgenerate, but people on this board have commented on how that product is just BS and capitalizing on using the buzz term "HCG" in its name for sales.

So, what's the real deal? Is it good stuff and can be used in lieu of liquid HCG or not?
 
WifeSlapTed said:
Okay. I have a question concerning HCGenerate.

I'm having trouble finding HCG, which concerns me because I'd love to run my cycle 12 weeks and finish off my bottle, but that is too long without HCG, which I currently don't have.

In RussianStar's PCT write-up, he advises using hcgenerate, but people on this board have commented on how that product is just BS and capitalizing on using the buzz term "HCG" in its name for sales.

So, what's the real deal? Is it good stuff and can be used in lieu of liquid HCG or not?
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Not in lieu of. Use real HCG during cycle quiting injection the same as your long ester (continue if it is your short), then the theory is to switch to HCGenerate to facilitate the natural recovery of LH rather than tricking the body with HCG. HCG isn't hard to find either. Keep looking around. 12 weeks, I've read it would be a good idea to start a week after first inject and stop the week of last inject considering it is a long ester. I'm not positive though, but I'll let you know in about 15 weeks.
 
wolfe14 said:
BF% is probably mid teens according to the gadget at the gym..im using a 1.5 inch needle...I guy I know told me to lean and put all my weight on the side i am NOT injecting into which would loosen up my cheek that im shooting in...but then im stuck wondering if it got into the muscle or not....???
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I've heard and always practiced the opposite. keep the muscle relaxed. I have IM injected IGF LR3 into my bicep and it was sore and cause a huge bruise (I'm assuming because all the blood from the workout I finished and me tightening the muscle. I have been keeping my quads extremely relaxed and haven't had any major issue with pain, a little sore but not bad and no bruising, but that is just me and my 2 cents.

Ed knows his **** so if he says to flex, give it a try, then try one relaxed and see which one your body likes. remember first injects will make you sore regardless until you get used to it. My bicep took a week to feel and look normal again. Ooops, I was a newbie then and that was about 3 or 4 years ago.


Morry
 
Just me.....but I would NEVER flex the muscle I'm pinning. :nono:
 
ive done 3 injects so far and have yet to have any pain or discomfort..this is my first cycle too.
 
wolfe14 said:
ive done 3 injects so far and have yet to have any pain or discomfort..this is my first cycle too.
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You must be doing it right then. Keep it up!!
 
thundergod said:
You must be doing it right then. Keep it up!!
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The only muscle I.flex is my triceps and that because I'm inj 1cc through a 1/2" slin pin and wanna make sure it gets in there, I do not find it necessary to do so using 1" in any other muscle prob causes some extra pain but I like The convenience of the slin pin for 1cc of tren ace what with the suspension I pin as much as 3 x a day and that doesn't include slin x 2 ED hgh x 1 ed HCG x 2 EW and then when the Igf comes out that will be another 4 pricks ED

I am a human pin cushion :)
 
edwitt said:
The only muscle I.flex is my triceps and that because I'm inj 1cc through a 1/2" slin pin and wanna make sure it gets in there, I do not find it necessary to do so using 1" in any other muscle prob causes some extra pain but I like The convenience of the slin pin for 1cc of tren ace what with the suspension I pin as much as 3 x a day and that doesn't include slin x 2 ED hgh x 1 ed HCG x 2 EW and then when the Igf comes out that will be another 4 pricks ED

I am a human pin cushion :)
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Makes sense to me.

Pin cushion, eh? and a disposal? you are an anabolic experiment and one ripped mofo. I'm hoping to get at least 2/3 of the way there. I think you might be able to help me too....
 
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