Nice!! My suggestion is to do like I have been doing for quite awhile: trial and error.
pre-surge doesnt give you that tear shat up feeling either.
in ur opinion what does give you that feeling?
well said!Mesomorph...no doubt about it especially the newer formula that has the creatine nitrate in it. The only way I describe it is it feels like your body has a craving that won't go away until you work out and - as you put it - tear sh!t up.
It hasn't been at Nutraplanet for a bit, hopefully soon tho. You can find it at our website apsnutrition.com, the bogo deal is still going on untill the end of the month.Why is Mesomorph discontinued?
Sweet, BOGO's are always greatIt hasn't been at Nutraplanet for a bit, hopefully soon tho. You can find it at our website apsnutrition.com, the bogo deal is still going on untill the end of the month.
that was the old formula-the new one is available at other sites just not nutraplanet!!! the nutra product request thread is full of requests for nutra to carry meso and the rest of aps products-there is a huge demad for aps here on this forum-WHY NUTRAPLANET IS NOT CARRYING APS PRODUCTS IS BEYOND BELIEF.:aargh:Why is Mesomorph discontinued?
I dont understand.. Nutra seems to be slacking when the demand is high, but then again, some things take time i guessthat was the old formula-the new one is available at other sites just not nutraplanet!!! the nutra product request thread is full of requests for nutra to carry meso and the rest of aps products-there is a huge demad for aps here on this forum-WHY NUTRAPLANET IS NOT CARRYING APS PRODUCTS IS BEYOND BELIEF.:aargh:
some of those requests for meso are kinda old!!!! nutra is just plain dropping the ball.....I dont understand.. Nutra seems to be slacking when the demand is high, but then again, some things take time i guess
give judgement day a pm-he's got the hookup!!!Yeah I wanted to put it in my last order, but alas they did not have it.
On another note, did someone say BOGO?
Yes I will :bling:give judgement day a pm-he's got the hookup!!!
it does look interesting.LIT-UP LIT-UP LIT-UP!!!
clarify what?clarify on this for me?
I find it to be amazing personally, i only use 1-1.5 scoops tho
well, this is why some have suggested DOUBLE dosing the DAA in the first week, then dropping back to the 3.2g dose. I haven't seen where less than 3g is just as effectiveOk, well once DAA builds in the system a smaller dose is needed to keep levels elevated
If your taking DAA that may be the reason for the bloating you were talking about, it may not even be the Creatine, because the daa is gonna raise estrogen a little, which could lead to abit of bloating.Ok, well once DAA builds in the system a smaller dose is needed to keep levels elevated
if you are using all the products you claim to be using, how the hell do you know which is doing what????Well i was using Creatine Nitrate with Pre-surge unleashed, which i had been using for a lil bit, then i dropped the pre-surge and just used some caffiene with creatine nitrate, then my lit-up came and i started using that...ive had bloating/GI distress ever since i started using creatine nitrate all the way thru till now
Any creatine will bloat you.if you are using all the products you claim to be using, how the hell do you know which is doing what????
that is like eating at a chinese buffet and saying the soy sauce made you sick.
this guy has been all over the board saying he has used this, used that and everything else.If your mixing different Pre-workouts containing Creatine or DAA and switching from other creatines back to Creatine Nitrate then it would be really hard to pin point where the bloating is from.
I get bloated really easy off creatines, gymnema sylvestre, glycerol and others but on day 9 of Creatine Nitrate and still no bloating.
when are you dosing the creatine nitrate, and are you consuming food with it?Well i was using Creatine Nitrate with Pre-surge unleashed, which i had been using for a lil bit, then i dropped the pre-surge and just used some caffiene with creatine nitrate, then my lit-up came and i started using that...ive had bloating/GI distress ever since i started using creatine nitrate all the way thru till now
well, it's always possible with creatine to create a stomach issue.I started with pre-surge unleashed only 1 scoop, no bloat
then used 4 caps creatine nitrate plus 1 scoop pre-surge, stomach issues/bloat
then discontinued pre-surge and only used 4 caps creatine nitrate with 200mg caff, bloat/stomach issues...im not saying it a INSANE bloat, im saying its like im really full type of bloat.
then lit-up arrive and started it with the same 4 caps i had been taking, bloat/stomach issues
I did not take them all at once, i even decreased my food/fiber intake to see if it would help. I dose creatine nitrates 1 hr after food and 30-40 min before my workout
alright thank you, so i decieded (ive had lactation issues in the past with prolactin build up) to see if lit-up/daa would cause these to flare up since my nips have been sensative lately, 12 days of use to far...to my suprise they lactate again...so i will be stoping its use. My question is, i have some RPM i would like to replace it with, but i read Icarrin and Nitrates dont mix, is this true?well, it's always possible with creatine to create a stomach issue.
I'd split the dose then and roll with it that way
Icariin and Nitrates have the potential to drop blood pressure dramatically.alright thank you, so i decieded (ive had lactation issues in the past with prolactin build up) to see if lit-up/daa would cause these to flare up since my nips have been sensative lately, 12 days of use to far...to my suprise they lactate again...so i will be stoping its use. My question is, i have some RPM i would like to replace it with, but i read Icarrin and Nitrates dont mix, is this true?
:goodpost:if you are using all the products you claim to be using, how the hell do you know which is doing what????
that is like eating at a chinese buffet and saying the soy sauce made you sick.
Its not good posting as i stated earlier, i left the creatine nitrate and changed the pre-wo product of choice to relieve GI distress/bloating as i didnt believe it was the creatine nitrate at first, i know what was going on and whats doing what thank you:goodpost:
Try to work out the stomach issues before adding the RPM.Ill take the note and try not to go crazy with it, thank you very much. Ill just make it a rule to either do nitrates or icarrin not both
Meh, I thought it was a good post... In the past I myself took to many supps at once and then was like WTF u don't know which one worked. Don't take anything to personal my man were all here to learn. Guys like BigT know what they're talking about. He's been doing this sh!t way longer thn me at least.Its not good posting as i stated earlier, i left the creatine nitrate and changed the pre-wo product of choice to relieve GI distress/bloating as i didnt believe it was the creatine nitrate at first, i know what was going on and whats doing what thank you
i think they thought i was joking when i 1st said viagra, lol. at my age my doc gives me sample packs of ed meds just for asking. my first workout around 4 hours after taking a 'little blue pill' was amazing. have to be careful though-it can cause light-headedness.Viagra and couple of caffeine pills FTW
it tastes horrible, but it definitely has a crack like stim effect to it.Please tell me 1MR from BPI is "the ****" - I ordered it today, and it's quite expensive here in Germany (around 60 bucks! for one tub). Flavor will be Fruit punch.
I read it gives Jack3d - which I liked - a run for its money.
ya a 300mg of caffeine Stim crack effect lolit tastes horrible, but it definitely has a crack like stim effect to it.
hemo rage or whatever it is called is even worse as far as stims go. I took it and I was jittery for 6 hours
Please tell me 1MR from BPI is "the ****" - I ordered it today, and it's quite expensive here in Germany (around 60 bucks! for one tub). Flavor will be Fruit punch.
I read it gives Jack3d - which I liked - a run for its money.
hemo rage is the only thing i have ever took that made my bp skyrocket-and i take a lot of stims. i would steer clear of that stuff-don't know what ingredient made bp jump so high, but it honestly gave me a scare.it tastes horrible, but it definitely has a crack like stim effect to it.
hemo rage or whatever it is called is even worse as far as stims go. I took it and I was jittery for 6 hours
Yup,i think they thought i was joking when i 1st said viagra, lol. at my age my doc gives me sample packs of ed meds just for asking. my first workout around 4 hours after taking a 'little blue pill' was amazing. have to be careful though-it can cause light-headedness.
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