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Poopothoxy Madness with MrSupps.com's Chlorothoxy (Sponsored)

Normally you wouldn't see a methylated compound in a TD, but in this case Chlorothoxy is methylated.
 
This maybe a stupid question but it being TD does that mean it's not methylated?

The guys at ntbm keep saying there's something secret.... Considering this is a td though and its already been mentioned that some of the reps just expected it wasn't then I'm gibbs have to say its one of 2 things... Either its not methylated or they don't even know and are waiting for results to say either... I'm not really sure.

Read through the tester picking thread and I'm sure you can see them eluding to this regardless of what it says on the label.
 
a mystery product poops. lol.

Nah you know more about it than me! I haven't seen a bottle or seen a write up so it's hard for me to answer questions about chlorothoxy.

Understandable with a beta testing product though i guess.
 
10/12/10 workout

(didn't update last night, doing so now)

Workout Notes:

AM
Hit fasted cardio 25 min upon waking

Evening

Worked out my back and buys bi's again... Didn't have much time though so much was superset back to back, curls were done in between lat pull down sets n whatnot.... Def made the less sets still effective....

Db hammer curl- 10x20
Db curl- 10x20
Db hammer curl- 10x25
Db curl- 8x25
SS start
Reverse grip curl bar- 10x35
Lat pulldown-10x45/45(l/r)
reg grip cb- 10x35
Lat pulldown- 10x55/55
Reverse grip cb- 10x35
Lat pulldown- 10x65/65
Reg grip cb- 8x35
SS end
Seated cable row- 10x60, 10x60, 14x60, 10x70
OH cable curl- 6x40/40


Daily Notes:

Weight 194.5.... Down a lil from yesterday but still 1.5lbs over start

For the most party just felt a lil tight from mon chest workout, not nearly as much doms as even last weeks workout, def a good sign.... Also didn't get in all my meals so was expecting sub part performance in the gum but still did alright, guessing that was most of the reason for change in weigh as well.
 
Just a comment, but anytime that one is on an androgen or androgen enhancer, thirst will be noted. Keep up the detailed log bro, hopefully you get some solid gains from this run along belly loss.
 
10/13/10 Daily Observations

Daily Observations:

Today was a rest day, definitely felt some doms in the lats... Crazy thing is the fact my chest doesn't feel sore at all from 2nd day out doms, in fact much of the day felt a nice pump in my chest..... Also no severe doms in the bis, barely feel it if I hyper extend them, will see if the second day out gets me or not... Can't wait till next week since three compounds used should be good and kicked in by then and kicken ACE....

Sides....
Most the acne on my face is gone, but even with a shower this morning skin was oily by afternoon and chest is still broke out... Def some androgenic effects going on here.

Unlike some of my counter parts though my sleep has not been effected, sleep like a rock.... but I dose 1-carboxy, supersap, daa and occasionally 5-htp before bed.

Also have not been feeling the lethargy that was killing me at the start, just good feeling all day, possibly AT-2 and the methyl synephrine, feel a nice thermo effect all day too....

So far, so good.... can't wait til next week when its supposed to be kicked in full bore .
 
Just a comment, but anytime that one is on an androgen or androgen enhancer, thirst will be noted. Keep up the detailed log bro, hopefully you get some solid gains from this run along belly loss.

What is this due to, retention?
 
Sooooo I just realized I f'd up.....

I totally didn't take any measurements a week ago when I started....

Was just in the shower with the lil lady and she all a sudden goes,"whoa, your arms got huge all a sudden"

Of course I was expecting such, its my most genetically gifted body part.... Soooooo I just went ahead and took measurements now to make sure to track progress from here on out....

Shoulders- 49.5
Chest- 45.5
R arm - 16.25
L arm- 16
Waist @ navel- 37.25
Waist below obliques @hips- 36.25
Calves- 16
Quads- 23.5

And that's all I'm tracking.... Sucks I didn't get it a week ago... Dumb
 
Was just in the shower with the lil lady and she all a sudden goes,"whoa, your :smileeek: got huge all a sudden"

Censored for the chidlens!

That's why my wife won't let me shower with her if she's in a hurry :frustrate

LOL!!!
 
Nothing HUGE to note yet.... I expect to see the real "in the gym" effects next week anyways given the history of these compounds......

BTW.... how long was this supposed to be run???

I know the bottle wasnt full when I got it, bout 2/3, figured it was on purpose... but it may be an optical illusion since the bottle aint that big but I swear Im already half through what it started at... so about 1/3 full now.....

The dosing IS 10 pumps 2x a day, right??? for 4 weeks???
 
10/14/10 Furniture Workout....

Furniture Workout notes:

LMAO... you read correctly....

I was expecting my check, ooooh, 2 weeks ago.... Budget was set for such AND THEN on the day I go to get it they tell me its not coming till the 15th.... The 100 dollars they advanced me has been completely stretched (and my lady expected a check today from unemployment who's paying her during school that didn't show at its normal time either) and I was able to buy a last bag of frozen chicken breasts and some gas on tues to finish off my funds......

This meant not enough gas to drive to the gym tonight and then all the way to my main office tomorrow to get my check soooo....

AT HOME FURNITURE AND BW WORKOUT IT IS!

Ive found innovation is your friend when you don't have a gym available and I must say I was very proud of my makeshift routine today, using wood chair lateral and front raises, as well as bent over rows. Living room couch shrugs. N the killer was what I started with, handstand pushups...

(7, 5, 3)
Standing on my hands with feet against the wall doing bw pushups mimicked shoulder presses perfectly and def at a heavier weight then what I was using in the gym

(10L/10R, 10L/10R)
getting on my knees at the end of a 3 seater couch and lifting it from the bottom while the lady sat at the other side of the fulcrum made for the very effective side 1 then 2 shrugs at an unknown weight.... But the couch was slipping from my grip by 10 reps each time.

(10lateral both sides, 10 front LthenR, 10L b.s., 10f L/R, 10L b.s.)
Heavy and honestly awkward to handle wood chairs made for some forced strict form lateral and front raises... Also being much longer then a hand held db, the leverage effect created a heavier feel... Prob 10lb chair, who knows what the effective weight equals with leverage calculated...either way strict form and concentrated reps did the job great.

(20R/20L, 20R/20L)
Then leaning forward over the back of a chair to support myself much like I'd do on a bench or against the db rack when the gym is empty, using a chair once again, to do a slow and wide (away from my body) as possible rep. Did a more high volume bent over row to really burn out the rear delts.



All in all a VERY effective routine that left me with solid trap and delt pumps. I was happy a lil ingenuity payed off so much and I was able to stick to my scheduled routine.

Booya poopalicious! Lol
 
Lol nice man dont let a little gas stop u from working out. I was thinking u helped someone moved when I 1st saw the top of the post.
 
Nothing HUGE to note yet.... I expect to see the real "in the gym" effects next week anyways given the history of these compounds......

BTW.... how long was this supposed to be run???

I know the bottle wasnt full when I got it, bout 2/3, figured it was on purpose... but it may be an optical illusion since the bottle aint that big but I swear Im already half through what it started at... so about 1/3 full now.....

The dosing IS 10 pumps 2x a day, right??? for 4 weeks???

I have noticed the same thing with my bottle, it looks like I have used about 2/3s already?
 
Nothing HUGE to note yet.... I expect to see the real "in the gym" effects next week anyways given the history of these compounds......

BTW.... how long was this supposed to be run???

I know the bottle wasnt full when I got it, bout 2/3, figured it was on purpose... but it may be an optical illusion since the bottle aint that big but I swear Im already half through what it started at... so about 1/3 full now.....

The dosing IS 10 pumps 2x a day, right??? for 4 weeks???

Correct 10 pumps AM & PM.

There should be enough to run for a full 30 days.

If you think there is not gonna be enough you may wanna contact Needto on that.

BTW nice "furniture workout".. That's good sh1t right there!
 
Ya its only been a week, at this rate it won't last through the 3rd week, that's for sure....

Guess ill pm ntb, maybe he knew it was less since its just a beta run..... how many weeks does forma stanzol last n how full is that bottle at start usually?.... Same bottles right?
 
Well it depends on how much you use of the Forma, 10pumps=1 serving and there's 60 servings.

But from my understanding Poops was he was giving out a full 4 week supply.

:hmmm:

I'll try to get a hold of him too about this.
 
Ya tomorrow morning for me will be equivalent to day 9 for me and I can tell now that it will probably last 15 days no longer.
 
Sure enough...that would be a 30 day cycle...

I think if the bottle would have between full it would have just made the 30 days...

That's why I was wondering how full the forma bottle is, brand new. should give us a good foundation given the bottle/pumper used the same, as is the dosing....
 
Well its no question that the supply I was given (and I would assume the other testers) is not going to last the 30 days. It is a beta test so I can't really complain, but I also will not be able to give a full review either.
 
Sure enough...that would be a 30 day cycle...

I think if the bottle would have between full it would have just made the 30 days...

That's why I was wondering how full the forma bottle is, brand new. should give us a good foundation given the bottle/pumper used the same, as is the dosing....

Oh...wow I forgot about this log. It should probalby be a good while b4 you run Boladrol considering PCT and time off..:(
 
...not really, this does not suit me as an overly suppressive run, the compounds combined at this dose make for a dryer more androgenic run and even@ 4 weeks with both these unmethylated compounds would be a very conservative run imho.... not to mention its looking like it won't even last outside of two weeks unless ntbm whips up some more and sends it out to all the testers...

I def have no problem running a compound like boladrol back to back with this for only another 2 weeks(tester bottles are dosed for 15 days) and not worry one bit...been on cycle assist over a month now, and have a VERY comprehensive pct already lined up.

I had planned on running 3 weeks of alpha one (methyl 1-AD, an M1T prohormone) anyways at the end of Chlorothoxy to throw on some guaranteed mass real quick, this just came along at just the right time instead ;).
 
Just realized I didn't update yesterday....

with all my running around and picking up my boy I didn't get to hit the gym....

Doing fasted leg workout NOW! interset,lol
 
Well fasted this morning, 195..... Usually work out and weigh at night, so I'm certain that I'm up a solid 2lbs AT LEAST!

Much more likely its more since when I weighed in at the start I was 193, it was also a night time weigh in....

Also diet has been VERY clean thus whole week and the mirror def tells me I'm losing some fat at the same time....

Im guessing its been a good 3lb gain in pure lbm....

Remember muscle memory is def playing its part here for me BUT def wouldn't be able to gain 3 lbs AND loose fat without the aid of an anabolic like Chlorothoxy... Also pretty amazed at how fast this is taking effect compared to both these compounds when dosed orally...

Most believe td's convert hormones allot more with higher concentrations of enzymes in the dermis, allowing the active from compound dosing to build up much faster... Def have to agree there is a huge benefit to dosing certain converting hormones dermally. :thumbsup:
 
10/16/10 Workout Notes

Workout notes:

Did a fasted leg workout after waking this morning (10:30, lol)... Def felt like it was an effective workout. Decided to tested my luck with the squat rack, def ask still need my back to get stronger before I can comfortably push some good working weight BUT still felt its effects immediately after being in a fasted state.... Here's how it went ...


Workout:

Squat- 10x135, 3x205(realized to heavy for lower back, switched to-->), [ds 5x185->10x135 ds]
Hamstring curl- 12x150, 10x195, 10x195, 9x210
Standing calf raise- 10x225, 15x225, 12x225
Quad extensions- 10x65, 9x80, 12x50, 10x50


Observations:

By the end of this I could hardly walk without my legs shaking out from underneath me.... A benefit to working legs fasted, my stomach doesn't get upset, downside is my energy stores are low and its hard as hell for me to do the final exercises without shaking though each rep,lol.

Already sitting here at home, my legs are sore, prob gonna be toast tomorrow.... If not that would be AWESOME... Squats are so much more freakin effective then leg press its stupid, even when working with less weight... Can't wait to get back up to my normal working weight though!

Still waiting to hear on what's the deal with the under supplied tester bottles we got, hopefully they can get more out to us, as I'm liking the effects thus far and expect it to really kick in this next week.... Would suck to stop it right as the compounds start to work their magic.
 
Nice bro, ya I really hope they hook us up for more, these compounds are definitely doing their thing, so it is only going to get better from here!
 
i'll look into this issue. I have both a bottle of formastanz, & chlorothoxy, they are similarly filled, with the forma, maybe slightly more.

I will contact needto today concerning this issue, and get back, asap.
 
Daily Observations 10/17/10

Daily Observations

So today is my full day off n cheat day for diet, although today all I've had outta the norm was a bowl of cereal... Planning on having some home made cookies tonight though, yum.

All in all this run do far has been good, I can def feel that its just getting into the swing of things and can't wait to see how this next weeks workouts go.

Another thing go note sides wise..... Libido.... Tanked.... No real sex drive, desire and performance when even done is def sub par.... This is common with max lmg and thank goodness I haver a super solid pct set up, actually since I've been brought on as a Primordial Performance rep my pct will now contain the TRS stack which is something I've always wanted to run and along side toremifene should blow my nuts up like balloons, lol.

Other then that muscles feel full and pumped most the day, looking leaner although up in weight and recovery is pretty quick, although I do have some doms in the glutes and quads today from my squats yesterday.... Good imo, lol, cause since losing weight over the summer from working (was a FAT 205 before summer, lost 10lbs in the first month of working) my lady says my a$$ shrunk n I've been reassuring her that when I start doing squats again my glutes will grow larger then ever, lol.

Sleep us still good too, sleep solid as a rock actually and only dosing 1-carboxy EON to extend my waning supply. I really haven't ever had difficulty with sleep from androgen supplementation like many people have mentioned though and if anything just get lethargic and sleep all day, which on cycle just means more growth and doesn't bother me if I don't have stuff to do.

Well gonna go eat me some chili n lean, rinsed ground beef so I can kill my family with horrid gas, lol.
 
Daily Observations

So today is my full day off n cheat day for diet, although today all I've had outta the norm was a bowl of cereal... Planning on having some home made cookies tonight though, yum.

All in all this run do far has been good, I can def feel that its just getting into the swing of things and can't wait to sewer how this next weeks workouts go.

Another thing go note sides wise..... Libido.... Tanked.... No real sex drive, desire and performance when even done is def sub par.... This is common with max lmg and thank goodness I haver a super solid pct set up, actually since I've been brought on as a Primordial Performance rep my pct will now contain the TRS stack which if something I've always wanted to run and along side toremifene should blow my nuts up like balloons, lol.

Other then that muscles feel full and pumped most the day, looking leaner although up in weight and recovery is pretty quick, although I do have some doms in the glutes and quads today from my squats yesterday.... Good imo, lol, cause since losing weight over the summer from working (was a FAT 205 before summer, lost 10lbs in the first month of working) my lady says my a$$ shrunk n I've been reassuring her that when I start doing squats again my glutes will grow larger then ever, lol.

Sleep us still good too, sleep solid as a rock actually and only dosing 1-carboxy EON to extend my waning supply. I really haven't ever had difficulty with sleep from androgen supplementation like many people have mentioned though and if anything just get lethargic and sleep all day, which on cycle just means more growth and didn't bother newer if I don't have stuff to do.

Well gonna go eat me some chili n lean, rinsed ground beef n lil my family with horrid gas, lol.


The TRS will be an a very good addition to your PCT, poops. You can't beat what Primordial brings to the table in that regard. :D



-John
 
if you are using it at 10 pumps am and pm then you should have enough for the full 4 weeks. if not that sucks because I have no more test bottles. I am using my bottle and have been using it for 2 weeks at 10 pumps twice a day and I know I still have 2 maybe even 3 weeks left to my bottle.

So far I am pretty happy with the product but I will not know till I am done.
 
Ya def happy with the product right here!
Thats why when I saw it going faster then expected I was disappointed....

Def sticking to rec dose, so I will just have to see how it lasts, hopefully longer then it seems....
 
if you are using it at 10 pumps am and pm then you should have enough for the full 4 weeks. if not that sucks because I have no more test bottles. I am using my bottle and have been using it for 2 weeks at 10 pumps twice a day and I know I still have 2 maybe even 3 weeks left to my bottle.

So far I am pretty happy with the product but I will not know till I am done.

Thanks for coming by needto. I don't know if I have enough, it seems I do not. But its no big deal I appreciate the opportunity to run it. Gotta say I am loving it so far!
 
10/18/10 (last nights) Workout Notes

Workout:

Definitely had a great workout, wish I coulda done more honestly but had my boy with me and the daycare part closed at 830 and I was already pressed for time running errands all day...


Incline DB press- 12x40, 10x50, 10x60
Dips- 10,8,8,8
Cable Fly-(l/r) 10x32.5/32.5, 10x40, 10x45, 10x55
TuT Olympic bar- 5 reps(20sec pos, 20sec neg)->15 speed reps, 5reps(15sec pos 15sec neg)

And had to leave after that...


Workout Notes:

Def alot stronger, this routine was done in about 35 min, rest time was short and recovery interset was def increased... finally FEELING the push in the gym, I LOVE IT.

Also since this is obviously being written on the 19th, I thought I would mention that I feel absolutely NO DOMS today in my chest, def awesome.

I will make sure this next mon that Im there a lot earlier and have a lot more time, with this kinda feeling in the gym its def time to increase volume and just decimate my muscles.

ALSO

weight.....

198.25.... up 5.25lbs... NICE!

we will see if that was just weekend weight from Sundays eating or if it waivers through the week... honestly with how I'm lookin in the mirror I'm almost certain its pretty solid, a lil water and glycogen retention but def something impressive given I'm only 12 days in and eating @ maintenance or just below...

Cant wait to see how my workout goes tonight (10/19/10) and how the scale moves through the week.
 
If your like me you will keep that weekend weight. I am carrying a little water as well, but not too much.
 
glad to hear you're liking this one"!
 
Workout notes 10/19/10

Workout:

Tonights workout went great, felt strong, had great interset recovery and was able to handle higher weight with ease within my normal rep range.

Db curls- 10x25
Db hammer curl- 10x30
Db curl- 10x25
Curl bar- 10x42.5
Reverse grip curl bar-10x42.5
Iso lat pull down- 10x45, 10x60, 10x70
Seated row- 10x70, 10x80, 10x90
Bent over db row- 10x35, 10x25
BB curl- 10x25 (slow concentrated reps)
Reverse grip BB curl- 10x25 (S.C.R.)
BB curl- 10x25 (S.C.R.)
15 min med intensity cardio (hr 155-160)


Workout notes:

Weight is still right at 198, mirror is making me happier and happier, def losing fat, def gaining lbm....

Cool thing I've noticed both out of the gym and in... Delts are looking good, honestly starting to rival the difference in bi/tri:delt ratio I used to have...

My delts used to look under developed compared to the rest of my arm (imo) and as of right now they are popping a lot more right now compared to the rest of my arm and the separation between sections is very distinct.... Hopefully this remains the case as my arms blow back up.... I've had ~18 inch arms before which look really big on my frame but used to over power my delts... Would love to have the best of both worlds.
 
Nice bro, sounds like you got some recomping going on :cheers:

Shoulders are one muscle group that I REALLY wanna bring up.. & arms i suppose. Everthing else grows pretty easy for me.
 
10/20/10 Daily Observations

Daily Observations

So today is my mid week rest day, cardio will still be done tonight for prob 30-40 min.

Feeling good today, no real DOMS, just a nice tightness, slight pump and lots of feeling the need to stretch, all feelings I get when some good muscle is being put on in the past!

Yesterday I decided to try something different I forgot to mention... I pumped 15 pumps pre workout and 5 pumps post, DEFINITELY had a huge rush and felt my heart rate increase slightly a couple minutes after, felt awesome....

So today I'm doing the same, smearing on a 15 pump dose in the am and 5 pump dose in the aft, just to get blood levels to peak higher today while I'm eating to feed the muscles for growth...

Nothing else exceptional to note, although def liking this run regardless of its duration..... Libido still tanked for me, still have oily skin but acne is intermittent although def more then usual.
 
10/21/10 Daily observations/Workout notes

Daily observations:

Well had a big day today and my dosing I feel played huge roles in my mood given the day......

First thing is I had an interview today for a new sales position, dosed the chlorothoxy right after I cut my hair and took a shower the went off for the interview.... Now normally I am a very confident person any how, been in sales in one aspect or another for the last 6 years and interview very well.... If I can get them to pick my application and see me in person, I get the job. This being said, along with a strong prayer before going into the interview, I felt on top of the world. Very alpha male. I knew I had it before I even spoke to the first interviewer....

Killed it in the first interview, they pushed that I wait a second so they could get me right into the second interview with the typo man and then placed me immediately. No, "we'll get back to you", instead I'm in the highest earning entry level sales position they offer. Can easily make 40k a year here so its GREAT.

This afternoon lethargy surprisingly struck and I passed out for an hour, took the lil lady to school, and dosed my second dose in preparation to my workout.... Then get on the boards and just find myself getting easily irritated with other posters comments culminating in the fiasco that some other loggers are bringing to their sponsored logs and think its ok....

Luckily that same irritability was transferred positively as I leave and go to the gym, thankfully it was completely empty minus another dedicated regular doing his thing out of my way, and as soon as I start moving the weights the tension gets focused all on the iron and I'm left with a great feeling coming away from an awesome workout I accomplished in less then 35 minutes..... Definitely riding the androgen train right now....

Other things of note, mirror is looking more appealing every day. Especially in the gym with the big mirrors it was great to see a much smaller waist, a nice tapered V as opposed too the more wide unshspened barrel (should I say keg) look I had weeks ago, much wider shoulders that are looking nice and rounded and cuts that were not their recently either... All the while at a caloric deficit I'm still sitting at 198lbs(+5lbs) and losing fat, gaining strength and feeling much healthier then my initial attempt to severely cut while trying to get back into the swing if things.

With that, here's how the lifting went ....


Workout:

Lateral db raise warmups: (lots of weight in hand rotator cuff stretches and circles then)10x10, 15x10
Arnold press- 10x30(l/r each), 10x35, 10x35
Smith military press- 10x95, 10x95, 10x95
Rope pulldowns- 10x30, 10x40, 10x50 (after below, 10x30)
(below done as, right later/left later/right front/left front for each set all for reps of 10 in a mini superset)
Lateral/front cable raise- 10/10/10/10x15, 10/10/10/10x15, 10/10/10/10x15

Shrug machine- 10x70, 10x120


Workout notes:

As I said was all completed in less then 35 min, quick interset recovery has def kicked in full bore. Also felt very strong doing certain db exercises like arnold press that I haven't mixed back into my routine previously since they put more stain on the joints, definitely lower then what I used to work with but I can tell that weight will be going up fast (if my continued cycle after chlorothoxy is even half as effective) which in turn should translate into some stood gains in lbm too. Definitely feeling like I can start kicking volume up more on all my workouts now making sure to decimate all muscle groups and really take advantage of being on cycle.....

Well can't wait to take pics at the end of this to see them in a head to head for myself and show everyone else how fast things are coming along..... At this rate will easily be where I was 2 years ago before the end of this year.... Maybe further????

:D
 
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