Post Your Natadrol Results
- Thread starter koi1214
- Start date
RepThat21
Member
well when people are talking about weak stream while going to the bathroom and a thinning hairline it sounds like its really causing problems.obviously i am young and shouldnt have a problem bouncing back even if i didnt run a PCT but the complaints about sides are just kind of unexpected,if your experience side effects you should run support supps as with any cycle.i guess its just bothering me that most of the haters for natadrol are because of the side effects, which to me, just prove its doing something/working.
votum
Well-known member
True that. Only sides I have are some acne. Which is really being kept under control by just putting some ACV diluted in water on it.
monstermash
Well-known member
just cause they had a negative reaction doesn't make them a hater. In fact, I thank them cause I am prone to prostate issues and was also considering natadrol. So now i know people who are sensitive to these side effects should stay clear from natadrol. hormonal products aren't for everyone not even "natural" ones. i thank them for their honest reviews.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Absolutely not, I by no means meant they were a GOOD thing, but it still goes to prove the point.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Same. Never struggled with anything else on it.
RepThat21
Member
true and of course we want honest unbiased reviews,but there still is no talk about support supps for the problems.it says right on the warning do not take if you have issues with prostate enlargement and all of the usual stuff.which to me right off the bat says steer clear if you are sensitive to sides.either way i was referring more to people who post stuff like natadrol should be called "not-at-all" blah blah...
Irish Cannon
Legend
That's a pretty sick stack dude! Enjoy.
RepThat21
Member
x2 ^
OnTheRoadTo
Active member
Oof, so much for separation of variables. . .
jcspurg
New member
Ive been dosing 2/2/2 for 1 week now, plus an addition of ASGT, and every time I have been in the gym, I have hit a PR. I have also started a ketosis diet, and even with the calorie deficit and 0 carbs, my intensity and strength is very high right now. I am going to run just 1 bottle for now and decide if I like it enough to run a full cycle, maybe 8 weeks. Is there anything I could stack alongside for a full cycle?
Also Im not sure whats up with the sides but I honestly dont think a PCT is even required, I have not experienced anything but Ill see in a few weeks. Hair thinning and prostate issues? Strange with a natural supplement.
Also Im not sure whats up with the sides but I honestly dont think a PCT is even required, I have not experienced anything but Ill see in a few weeks. Hair thinning and prostate issues? Strange with a natural supplement.
zodiiac523
Active member
Indeed..
You should log this, or atleast let me know how your results are, i would definitely consider running something similar to that..
warsteiner
Active member
Have you not felt anything at all from Natadrol? I started 10 days ago running 6 caps (2/2/2) solo and on day 3 the diuretic effect kicked in, I also had an increase in appetite around the same day and then yesterday (day 9) the muscle fullness appeared.
I'm 6ft tall and 200lb so pretty much the same size/weight as you so hopefully you'll get some decent effects soon.
v1510n
New member
I had to stop taking this stuff halfway through the 2nd bottle. I was getting terrible stomach pain daily, at first I figured it must be my diet but when I took a few days off of the stuff and it went away until I started again I knew it was the cause.
No notable results from this stuff either, however I have gained 4-5 lbs since I started the PCT but its hard to say if thats from the Foramdrol or my change in routine.
No notable results from this stuff either, however I have gained 4-5 lbs since I started the PCT but its hard to say if thats from the Foramdrol or my change in routine.
hoopem6
Well-known member
Did you take your Natadrol doses with, or without, food?
MAxximal
Well-known member
DreamWeaver
Legend
For those who have prostate issues, AI's cycle support is a great product, seriously I used to be in the bathroom 3 times a night minimum now that's down to 1 and I am only running herbals, they stronger herbals can have mild side effects, don't think that they don't. Cycle support is a healthy choice and a staple for me now.
v1510n
New member
With food, if I remember right thats what the bottle suggests
gainsvillian
New member
I ran Natadrol for 7 weeks at 6/6/6/8/8/8/8. Overall, sides included frequent urination, and some hair thinning, so very minimal. In the 7 weeks, I gained some good strength, 30lbs on my bench (4x10 not max), 50lbs on my squat, etc... I ran it with a pre-wo and hemodraulix. I have no experience with PHs, so can't make any comparison there. I did lose some of the strength gains immediately, which surprised me after reading nearly everyone saying they kept strength gains. I didn't notice any substantial recomp effect, although I upped calories to help with gains.
BBB
Well-known member
It gets good reiviews except for the taste. I'm kinda taste sensitive.
metroba
Legend
OnTheRoadTo
Active member
The only ingredient in Cycle support for DHT sides is Saw Palmetto...But ND also lower HDL, so it's not a bad idea
DreamWeaver
Legend
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah I know but their are other sides it covers, and the extract they are using must be pretty strong. I have used Saw Palmetto before but never with these kinds of results.
stxnas
Well-known member
I've read that Grape Seed Extract (only available in the orange flavor) can help prevent hair loss caused by DHT.
There's also stinging nettle root and that should help with androgenic related prostate issues. I'm honestly not sure in what way Natadrol is causing BPH though.
Keep the results coming guys. I have a couple bottles myself...
DreamWeaver
Legend
That's what I am using the new Orange flavor, might be the combination.. it taste good too...
saggy321
Well-known member
My only concern with taking something to counter the DHT sides is that it will most likely have effect by lowering endogenous DHT. Is that such a good idea, lowering endogenous and then replacing with exogenous. A better approach might be to limit cycle duration or hair loss only use topical anti-androgen formulations.
RepThat21
Member
very true..like on the one/d plex i know its a bad idea to take saw palmetto i guess the same could go for this.i wonder how many people who had bad results/gains take saw palmetto or take a multi that contains it...
onder:ekdevil
Member
of course its underdosed.PROP BLEND!!no idea how much of the "androgen" is in each pill,and i dont know why they would add the other 3 ingredients.bottle would say take 4 then on forums its a minimum of 6 a day.all a ploy to make people buy more bottles.
BBB
Well-known member
Titre du document / Document title
Androgenic action of Tinospora cordifolia ethanolic extract in prostate cancer cell line LNCaP
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
KAPUR P. ; PEREIRA B. M. J. ; WUTTKE W. ; JARRY H. ;
Résumé / Abstract
Aim of the study: Recently, Tinospora cordifolia (TC) was shown to affect prostate growth in rats. It is not known whether this is a direct effect of TC or whether it is induced by altered hormone release. To investigate the actions of TC on the prostate, human LNCaP cells were exposed to an ethanolic extract of TC. Materials and Methods: LNCaP cells were incubated with the test substances for 48 h. Proliferation was measured by MTT test and prostate-specific antigen (PSA) secretion was determined with ELISA. Results: TC showed a dose-dependent stimulation of proliferation of LNCaP cells. Co-incubation with the anti-androgen flutamide (FLU) reversed the TC-induced stimulation of PSA secretion. Conclusions: The reference compound dihydrotestosterone (DHT) caused a significant increase of growth of LNCaP cells. Similarly, TC stimulated proliferation of these prostate cells. The anti-androgen FLU reversed the increase of PSA release caused by either DHT or TC. Thus, we suggest that TC may contain androgenic compounds, which appear to act via androgen receptor (AR).
Androgenic action of Tinospora cordifolia ethanolic extract in prostate cancer cell line LNCaP
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
KAPUR P. ; PEREIRA B. M. J. ; WUTTKE W. ; JARRY H. ;
Résumé / Abstract
Aim of the study: Recently, Tinospora cordifolia (TC) was shown to affect prostate growth in rats. It is not known whether this is a direct effect of TC or whether it is induced by altered hormone release. To investigate the actions of TC on the prostate, human LNCaP cells were exposed to an ethanolic extract of TC. Materials and Methods: LNCaP cells were incubated with the test substances for 48 h. Proliferation was measured by MTT test and prostate-specific antigen (PSA) secretion was determined with ELISA. Results: TC showed a dose-dependent stimulation of proliferation of LNCaP cells. Co-incubation with the anti-androgen flutamide (FLU) reversed the TC-induced stimulation of PSA secretion. Conclusions: The reference compound dihydrotestosterone (DHT) caused a significant increase of growth of LNCaP cells. Similarly, TC stimulated proliferation of these prostate cells. The anti-androgen FLU reversed the increase of PSA release caused by either DHT or TC. Thus, we suggest that TC may contain androgenic compounds, which appear to act via androgen receptor (AR).
flightposite
Board Sponsor
natadrol is good stuff imo i saw good strength and endurance gains added about 4 or 5lbs of lean mass kept it afterwards but i stacked it with psarm and asgt.
flightposite
Board Sponsor
and i think psarm is very underrated.
chim_chim
Member
Even rubbing transdermal DHT on your scrotum, you're not going to "feel" prostate growth in a week. There are some highly suggestible people in this thread.
Also, if you had that much DHT in your body, your sex drive and irritability would be through the roof.
A diruetic effect that makes you urinate more frequently -- that, I can believe.
Also, if you had that much DHT in your body, your sex drive and irritability would be through the roof.
A diruetic effect that makes you urinate more frequently -- that, I can believe.
Killerkanadia
Well-known member
Good choice.
shinivan
Member
what dosing are you running brother???
BrYmAsTeR17
Banned
^my first review... ...as well as my first post =P
abformulations
Legend
I'm on my 4th week coming and I'm loving it. Started dose at 6 for the first week than upped it to 8 after. I'm doing 3 am bfast and 3 pre workout and 2 dinner time. I'm stacking it with t-911 and asgt, glycobol only dosing that with morning bfast and onn my high carb day.
Results have been more definition, hardness, and strength...
Results have been more definition, hardness, and strength...
oufinny
Well-known member
This is my Natadrol review from this May
Natadrol review:
Recovery - 8.5/10 Not instant like I got on Pink Magic but as good as USP Prime... this is saying A LOT!
Pumps/vascularity - 10/10 This is all due to the vascularity, I have veins coming out of everywhere and look like I have a new set of pipes. Pumps were there as well but I don't consider this a pump product so not looking for much out of that aspect.
Energy/Endurance - 9/10 I definitely had to watch taking this late in the day or I couldn't sleep. The anabolism I got from Natadrol after I ate and worked out was ridiculous. I could literally feel myself growing and repairing the muscle damage I did, truly a new feeling for me.
Hunger/appetite suppression - No rating here but I will tell you this, if you like to eat this is for you. Once I stopped OEP/Recreate I was always hungry 60-90 minutes after meals and it didn't matter what I ate, no fat was gained. I would want to eat my hand in the AM when I woke up since I used every last bit of nutrition in my bloodstream when I was sleeping.
Sleep - 7/10 Watch taking this past 5-6 PM if you has issues falling asleep, besides that I didn't notice anything negative towards my sleep. I did have vivid dreams often while on Natadrol but that could have been the Ghenerate.
Value - 7.5/10 I am not trying to constantly compare these two but it is like Prime, you need at least 2-3 bottles to really see the benefits if you dose at the higher level (8-9 like I did). Catch it on sale and I would say it is easily an 8.5/10. I got it for a great price so keep your eyes open and jump on it when you get the chance.
Recomp - 8.5/10 This was excellent. My diet was not perfect due to major changes in my life and having to adjust to feeding more than one mouth with my GF living with me. Also, I could eat carbs and did not get any noticable fat gain, actually, I think my abs leaned out some. I would highly recommend this on a cutting cycle for 6-8 weeks with a strong appetite suppressant like OEP/AT-2 in your corner.
Sides - 7/10 At a higher dose I fought acne the whole time on my face/chest/back. Luckily my GF helped keep my back from getting out of control but it has increased as I continue to run it. Also, I had to wash my face VERY often to keep oil from getting out of control. I think T-911 helped with my skin getting/staying oily so I could be off with thinking it was the Natadrol.
Aggression - 9/10 No temper flares from this, very strong in the gym though. I was very ALPHA the last 3 weeks on this and did not want to back down from anything I did that was physically challenging. With AS-GT on board, it was a downright awesome feeling of positive intensity and aggression leading to PRs and generally badass workouts.
Overall - 8.5/10 Highly recommended, very impressed with how well this went for my first dabble into the hormonal realm. LG has a winner on its hands here and I will be the first to support it. I plan on doing another video review if time permits in the next few days, watch out for it.
To the original question about Natadrol vs Pink Magic. If you are looking for a hardcore recomp supplement that will most likely add muscle while cutting fat, you can't go wrong with either. I never had calories as low as I did with Pink Magic on the Natadrol but they were below maintenance and I gained strength... take away from that comment what you will. If you are carb sensitive, both seemed to treat me well though Pink definitely has nutrient partitioning properties that are noticeable and truly impressive. My suggestion, if its possible once we know more about Pink Magic, run Natadrol at 6 caps/day and Pink Magic at 6 caps/day for 6-8 weeks. That would be the ultimate in recomp stacks without going a hormonal route like Androhard or Methyl-1D (or something stronger that I would never do).
Natadrol review:
Recovery - 8.5/10 Not instant like I got on Pink Magic but as good as USP Prime... this is saying A LOT!
Pumps/vascularity - 10/10 This is all due to the vascularity, I have veins coming out of everywhere and look like I have a new set of pipes. Pumps were there as well but I don't consider this a pump product so not looking for much out of that aspect.
Energy/Endurance - 9/10 I definitely had to watch taking this late in the day or I couldn't sleep. The anabolism I got from Natadrol after I ate and worked out was ridiculous. I could literally feel myself growing and repairing the muscle damage I did, truly a new feeling for me.
Hunger/appetite suppression - No rating here but I will tell you this, if you like to eat this is for you. Once I stopped OEP/Recreate I was always hungry 60-90 minutes after meals and it didn't matter what I ate, no fat was gained. I would want to eat my hand in the AM when I woke up since I used every last bit of nutrition in my bloodstream when I was sleeping.
Sleep - 7/10 Watch taking this past 5-6 PM if you has issues falling asleep, besides that I didn't notice anything negative towards my sleep. I did have vivid dreams often while on Natadrol but that could have been the Ghenerate.
Value - 7.5/10 I am not trying to constantly compare these two but it is like Prime, you need at least 2-3 bottles to really see the benefits if you dose at the higher level (8-9 like I did). Catch it on sale and I would say it is easily an 8.5/10. I got it for a great price so keep your eyes open and jump on it when you get the chance.
Recomp - 8.5/10 This was excellent. My diet was not perfect due to major changes in my life and having to adjust to feeding more than one mouth with my GF living with me. Also, I could eat carbs and did not get any noticable fat gain, actually, I think my abs leaned out some. I would highly recommend this on a cutting cycle for 6-8 weeks with a strong appetite suppressant like OEP/AT-2 in your corner.
Sides - 7/10 At a higher dose I fought acne the whole time on my face/chest/back. Luckily my GF helped keep my back from getting out of control but it has increased as I continue to run it. Also, I had to wash my face VERY often to keep oil from getting out of control. I think T-911 helped with my skin getting/staying oily so I could be off with thinking it was the Natadrol.
Aggression - 9/10 No temper flares from this, very strong in the gym though. I was very ALPHA the last 3 weeks on this and did not want to back down from anything I did that was physically challenging. With AS-GT on board, it was a downright awesome feeling of positive intensity and aggression leading to PRs and generally badass workouts.
Overall - 8.5/10 Highly recommended, very impressed with how well this went for my first dabble into the hormonal realm. LG has a winner on its hands here and I will be the first to support it. I plan on doing another video review if time permits in the next few days, watch out for it.
To the original question about Natadrol vs Pink Magic. If you are looking for a hardcore recomp supplement that will most likely add muscle while cutting fat, you can't go wrong with either. I never had calories as low as I did with Pink Magic on the Natadrol but they were below maintenance and I gained strength... take away from that comment what you will. If you are carb sensitive, both seemed to treat me well though Pink definitely has nutrient partitioning properties that are noticeable and truly impressive. My suggestion, if its possible once we know more about Pink Magic, run Natadrol at 6 caps/day and Pink Magic at 6 caps/day for 6-8 weeks. That would be the ultimate in recomp stacks without going a hormonal route like Androhard or Methyl-1D (or something stronger that I would never do).
BrYmAsTeR17
Banned
I would agree but this would be a 5 for me. Sleep was horrible some nights although it didn't help that it was summer time. I was surprised I grew so much given my lack of z's.
What about strength? Was that in there somewhere I didn't see?
Overall great and detailed review. These are definitely honest opinions as I experienced the same characteristics.
oufinny
Well-known member
It was used on a cut so I did not gain a whole lot of muscle, I definitely did not lose any either. BF did drop though I did not have a caliper to quantify it; I let everyone make their own judgment through the pictures in my log. You can do a search for it and see for yourself.
In regards to you wanting to know exact information, very few, if any people on here have the calipers or tape needed to measure muscle growth and/or fat loss. Many of us, myself included, use the mirror and scale as our best guesses along with pictures showing progress. Also, the supplements aren't going to do everything for you, if your diet and training aren't on point, nothing will give you magic results. If your goal is to put on mass, make sure you are eating at least 500-1000 cals over maintenance and you have your ratios close to 40/40/20 or if you are really carb sensitive, 50/30/20.
reecew
Active member
Ill keep it short and sweet lol. I absolutely loved my natadrol run ill give it a 9/10.
Weight went from 151lbs to 157lbs
Arms went from 15" to 15.5"
Waist from 32.5" to 32 1/8th"
And pretty much everything else stayed the same. Got a little better calf defintion and my chest looks much better as well. Mainly focused on upper chest development during this time and it shows.
I have 15 days left of my formadrol/titanium PCT and im sitting at 156lbs and all measurements are still holding the same. So im thinking the scale weight is true weight gained not just water. But honestly I could care less what the scale reads as long as i dont loose any of the size i gained!
Weight went from 151lbs to 157lbs
Arms went from 15" to 15.5"
Waist from 32.5" to 32 1/8th"
And pretty much everything else stayed the same. Got a little better calf defintion and my chest looks much better as well. Mainly focused on upper chest development during this time and it shows.
I have 15 days left of my formadrol/titanium PCT and im sitting at 156lbs and all measurements are still holding the same. So im thinking the scale weight is true weight gained not just water. But honestly I could care less what the scale reads as long as i dont loose any of the size i gained!