FranklinH357
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My son wants to take HGH Pro and Testo Pro he is 15. Works out very hard and is very active. What are the disadvantages of him taking these products?
My 15 year old son wants to take HGHPRo and TestoPro ADVICE?
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FranklinH357
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Yes i have been trying to tell him i know for sure he shouldnt take testopro but not so sure on HGH pro. Thats why im asking.
ktatro1
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Nice explanation.....
Your son's hormone levels are rising and going to peak in the next couple years (from 18-20 ish). Puting hormone-altering products into his system could potentially harm his endocrine system for the rest of his life, possibly setting him up for early HRT. Protien, Creatine, BCAAs, and food. These will be his best friends for working out until his body is fully matured. I strongly encourage you to sit down and educate him as to how hormonal products work and why its a bad idea for him to take these products until his body is matured. Don't just tell him they are bad and leave it at that. Give him some qualifications for your decision and make sure he understands fully that these products can do irreversible harm if adminstered prematurely.
jherman08
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Im gonna be the first to go against the "supplements are bad" wave and say these products are all natural. All they could possibly do is help, please chime in AI. Im sure the herbs in these products are consumed from birth in some parts of the world. They may not help as much as creatine and protein, but combined and if he has the money i dont see any harm. This is just my opinion
freefall365
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Well said. the kid's not even through puberty yet. give his body a chance to do its thing before messing around with it. besides those products basically raise test. if his test is low now, wait a year, he'll be ready to hump any thing that moves naturally.
Killerkanadia
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If you're happy with him working out and you want to support him just buying him Protein, Amino Acids and the other basic products should be enough to motivate him. At his age she shouldn't really even be interested in all that stuff. I mean... do his friends take test boosters and stuff?
bolt10
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1)Buy the products....
2)replace the pills with some placebo of choice for your son....
3)take the HGH Pro and TestoPro yourself....
4)Profit....
haha not really but he really really does not need these. while the products themselves may not necessarily illicit any ill reactions(and they prob. won't give any positive gains either) taking these may make him mentally think he always needs supplements to achieve good gains...hes only 15 now if he starts on a supplement road at that age I don't see the long term benefiting him.
2)replace the pills with some placebo of choice for your son....
3)take the HGH Pro and TestoPro yourself....
4)Profit....
haha not really but he really really does not need these. while the products themselves may not necessarily illicit any ill reactions(and they prob. won't give any positive gains either) taking these may make him mentally think he always needs supplements to achieve good gains...hes only 15 now if he starts on a supplement road at that age I don't see the long term benefiting him.
Killerkanadia
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When i was 16 i had already been working out for a year or two, and i had a steady part time job after school. I was on bodybuilding.com regularly back then and i was spending a good bit of money on anything i could get my hands on. But i can look back at the orders and realize i was only getting the basic stuff, HMB was probably the only thing i took that wasn't of the basics. I'm sure that stuff is fine anyways, since it's crap.
Most people will agree though. At that age all you need is big plates of food and protein shakes.
Most people will agree though. At that age all you need is big plates of food and protein shakes.
Killerkanadia
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gymrat827
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If you want to give your son supps stick with protein, BCAA's, Glutamine, maybe creatine. But the point is at this age is horomone levels should do him just fine. All he needs is good clean cals and he should grow like a weed.
I would play around with the training routine. Do rest pause rest, hi/low, etc. Keeping a constant change to the muscles is the best thing for them to grow. Never let them get use to a workout.
I would play around with the training routine. Do rest pause rest, hi/low, etc. Keeping a constant change to the muscles is the best thing for them to grow. Never let them get use to a workout.
oufinny
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Hell at that age just eating a consistent diet, getting decent sleep, and maybe some creatine or a pre-workout that has it in it already are all he needs. I could make body changes at 15-18 years old in weeks that take me months now. He doesn't need those things, it will only lead him to trying to get PHs/DS when he is 18 and screw is hormonal system up.
hoopem6
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Despite safety concerns, does a 15 year old really need to increase his testosterone levels? How beneficial would a product of this nature be on someone who's still in a growth and development stage?
Hardnutcheck
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Only supps I knew about at 15 was protein shakes and protein bars.
gamer2be08
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Im going to have to agree with my man here. Those are not hormonal products and im pretty sure the ingredients in testopro and hghpro are not going to harm your sons hormonal system in any way... Food, creatine, protein and a multi would benefit him more though... If I had the choice in any of those products, all my money would go into food... And an AAS cycle
... But that is me...
jherman08
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And an AAS cycle
lmfao, now probably isnt the time to mention PP's tax sale :tongue2:
capnsavem
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my son will be 15 in 3 years... he's very active, plays football and rugby, and loves working out with his old man...
he will NOT be using anything beyond a multi and protein until he is of age and can make an educated and informed decision for what his boby may benefit from, performance-wise and/or aesthetically
so... 15 is way too young to even consider putting your boy on any supps like the ones you've mentioned.
capnsavem
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Im going to have to agree with my man here. Those are not hormonal products and im pretty sure the ingredients in testopro and hghpro are not going to harm your sons hormonal system in any way... Food, creatine, protein and a multi would benefit him more though... If I had the choice in any of those products, all my money would go into food... And an AAS cycle
i see your points, but it just isn't needed at 15. your points about the basic supps and food are right on par.
FranklinH357
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They are both natural so it doesnt seem like it would hurt
jherman08
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youve been working out for a long time bro lol
FranklinH357
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I have done some more research and found that doctors will easily write you out a dosage of HGH, so if doctors are willing to hand it out left and right its obviously not going to kill you. Does Anybody have any real life experience or cold hard facts. Everything i have read is based on opionon so far.
matthias7
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Thats not the same thing. HGH supplements work by boosting dopamine. This has a complex interaction on the P-T axis, it might surpress prolactin, might boost test and looks to boost HGH.
The thing you need to keep in mind is that test levels fluctuate NATURALLY. The confidence the guy has, protein and veg intake perhaps even the relationship with his mom all affect test.
HGHPro I dunno. TestPro I'd be happy with and the 10% or so boost in test would help his confidence a little bit (depends on DHT levels too). An 8-week cycle shouldn't hurt. However, start TestPro at 15 and by 18 he'll be asking about PH.
I think thats the key problem. Starting test boost supplements too young will lead to curiosity in PH well before 22.
A good diet, sourcing good whey, BCAA, creatine, fish oil (I've noticed variation in quality) and multis is a lot to be getting on with. That is a lot of work. Thats the priority.
Learning a creatine cycle in itself is a hurdle.
kingdong
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I thought everything in Testopro looked safe till I saw the divanil. Im not so sure about the fenugreek either. Its the same with HGH pro. A lot of those ingredients wont hurt, but if there are even one or two that do...
BigBeazy
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15? I'm eighteen and I get slandered for using Test boosters.
Back In like my freshmen year In foot ball and all the first supplement I ever got was a bottle of gold standard whey.
Later on In my sophmore/junior year I got into Nano Vapor and creatine.
I really don't think Its a wise choice. 15 Is really freakin young.
But again It depends on his body, at 10 years old I had a beard and chest hair, now If you see me you would think Im at least 25. (Helps out alot buying beer)
All of his friends probily have no clue what all this crap is, they just look at Mr. O in those muscle tech ads and stack up on Nano Vapor and Dat Dere Celltech.
Recomended Supplements:
Creatine
Bcaa's
Pre-Workout (Low Stim, Lil Jit is going to be bouncing off the walls)
Casein
Whey
Pretty much anything Non-Hormonal
I don't want to sound like a hypocrit but he really shouldn't be taking anything like that. I shouldn't be taking half the **** I am, but then again the next step for me is pretty much juice and Im not looking to go down that path. And most of you really don't know how young 15 is, especially maturity wise.
My gym Is next to the high school and we get tons of high schoolers in here. Tons of these kids walk up to me, ask me what to do, how much i bench, can i break a brick wall, and tons of other random crap. These kids also are the ones that can't bench properly, half the time stand around, and load up 500 pounds on the squat rack and slightly bend their knees.
I really don't think at his age that he is so completley serious into lifting. I remember at that age when i was in sports and all that was that me and my friends sat around deciding what beer kind of beer should we steal or how to persuade my older brother to buy us beer. And when I was in middle school me and my friend sat around smoking pot all day.
I really do think It is good however that you are atleast getting him into something productive, I just don't think all this HGH crap and test boosting is good for him. I seriously thought you where kidding at first. If any 15 year old came up to me and asked me if he should be taking that i would smack him. Then again most older wise lifters would smack me for even trying a test booster at my age.
"Oh its natural, its good for him" - Seriously I want to smack you a-holes too. Viagra has natural herbs In it too but what age group was that designed for? Should a 15 year old take Viagra? NO. So why should you say it would be ok for him to take this crap? Use your god dam head.
Back In like my freshmen year In foot ball and all the first supplement I ever got was a bottle of gold standard whey.
Later on In my sophmore/junior year I got into Nano Vapor and creatine.
I really don't think Its a wise choice. 15 Is really freakin young.
But again It depends on his body, at 10 years old I had a beard and chest hair, now If you see me you would think Im at least 25. (Helps out alot buying beer)
All of his friends probily have no clue what all this crap is, they just look at Mr. O in those muscle tech ads and stack up on Nano Vapor and Dat Dere Celltech.
Recomended Supplements:
Creatine
Bcaa's
Pre-Workout (Low Stim, Lil Jit is going to be bouncing off the walls)
Casein
Whey
Pretty much anything Non-Hormonal
I don't want to sound like a hypocrit but he really shouldn't be taking anything like that. I shouldn't be taking half the **** I am, but then again the next step for me is pretty much juice and Im not looking to go down that path. And most of you really don't know how young 15 is, especially maturity wise.
My gym Is next to the high school and we get tons of high schoolers in here. Tons of these kids walk up to me, ask me what to do, how much i bench, can i break a brick wall, and tons of other random crap. These kids also are the ones that can't bench properly, half the time stand around, and load up 500 pounds on the squat rack and slightly bend their knees.
I really don't think at his age that he is so completley serious into lifting. I remember at that age when i was in sports and all that was that me and my friends sat around deciding what beer kind of beer should we steal or how to persuade my older brother to buy us beer. And when I was in middle school me and my friend sat around smoking pot all day.
I really do think It is good however that you are atleast getting him into something productive, I just don't think all this HGH crap and test boosting is good for him. I seriously thought you where kidding at first. If any 15 year old came up to me and asked me if he should be taking that i would smack him. Then again most older wise lifters would smack me for even trying a test booster at my age.
"Oh its natural, its good for him" - Seriously I want to smack you a-holes too. Viagra has natural herbs In it too but what age group was that designed for? Should a 15 year old take Viagra? NO. So why should you say it would be ok for him to take this crap? Use your god dam head.
BigBeazy
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Russian bear? Seriously....
suresha
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it's a multivitamin, bigb. what's wrong with getting your son a multi-v?
what would you give you 15yr old boy then?
flinstones chewables?
the protein would have the bcaa's, casein and the whey, if you purchase the right one, which i'm sure you would buy your child the best protein out there, example: platinum hydro whey
so basically you're repeating exactly what i suggested, correct bigb? Seriously!
rulk22
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No way.
I would consider L carnitine 1st. It should open up and increase test receptor sites naturally. So whatever test he has, wich should be plenty (even free test), will be put to better use.
Primordial Performance has 2 of the best versions in powder form out right now, GPLC and Arginocarn. Im using both and they work great btw.
BigBeazy
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That whole line of Russian is pure crap.
Id buy him Animal Stak, Its cool and appealing.
Deeerdre
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Ya forgot to check back in hahah
suresha
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you got that one bigb, animal stak is the truth, i'd agree with getting animal stak over russian bear, but russian bear is still a decent multi v, but would't animal pack be better for a 15 yr.old than animal stak?
BigBeazy
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Think like a 15 year old.
ANIMAL PAK WOW COOL!
The freakin thing looks cool and gives conotations of you becoming an Animal if you take it.
DreamWeaver
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I started my son lifting when he was 14 an for the first couple year's it was technique and no supps whatsoever. I introduced him to protein powder when he as 16 where he started to lift heavier. Long story short 6'2" 270 dead 550 3 reps squat 575 2 reps by the time he as 18... Damn good protien powder lol Just thought I'd give you idea of a young persons potential sans supplements. He doesn't need them and I doubt they'd make much of a difference at his age with test levels and HGH levels soaring.
bolt10
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I didn't really wanna say anything bc nobody likes someone actin like a punk around here but...
Therefore I am inclined to think that you aren't a father and your really just 15....either way you/your son is 15 and by no means ready to take any of this. You/he weighs under 120lbs so food is the only thing you need and a good training program with adequate rest..
Therefore I am inclined to think that you aren't a father and your really just 15....either way you/your son is 15 and by no means ready to take any of this. You/he weighs under 120lbs so food is the only thing you need and a good training program with adequate rest..
BigBeazy
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Good job bro. I remember seeing his name around some where.
That kid is very tiny, eat anything you can get your hands on.
Baked Potatoes (Load it up, sour cream, bacon, butter)
Maybe some sort of weight gainer
Anything that has high calories and isnt McDonalds.
jherman08
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Originally Posted by FranklinH357
I am 15 years old. Been working out for a year now. Havent seen much gain and havent gained much weight im 5'8 at 116 pounds. I want to get big as possible. I had creatine and whey protein walmart brand. They tasted way to gross for me even to drink. So i read a thread on here about muscle milk and i bought 2 pounds of chocolate muscle milk. I would like other suggestions to get stronger and bigger also. Im on a budget and please give me links or good details on the stuff. Im a noob!
Youre 15 and have a son? :smirk:
I am 15 years old. Been working out for a year now. Havent seen much gain and havent gained much weight im 5'8 at 116 pounds. I want to get big as possible. I had creatine and whey protein walmart brand. They tasted way to gross for me even to drink. So i read a thread on here about muscle milk and i bought 2 pounds of chocolate muscle milk. I would like other suggestions to get stronger and bigger also. Im on a budget and please give me links or good details on the stuff. Im a noob!
Youre 15 and have a son? :smirk:
lilnardey
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Did you forget that your first post on these forums was you introducing yourself as being 15 years old?? lol
triton185
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Now that sh*t is just FUNNY!! LMAO!!
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