bb.com warehouse raided

Can someone offer up cliff notes as to what's going on inside this thread?

FDA going to war with the bodybuilding community to put it mildly. By hitting the big stores they are scaring everyone into submission by forcing other supplement companies to face being raided. ln the case of bb.com there is some other factors involved like the owners also own a major league team so they might have other forces/ reasons why they are being targeted just a thought.
 
Trolling stop

whats your feeling on the situation then bro?afraid that you wont be able to break 200lbs without tren or phera or superdrol.you have never even taken a prohormone so what clue do you have???

Stop the trolling , if you dont like this lifestyle go else where
 
Glad people somehow magically look through time traveling telescopes at my life huh. Damn where do I get one?

Considering I have only been saved for a couple years, my life and actions before that were more in line with violence than you assume. I have had my nose broke. I have had my teeth busted from having some old silver damn thing that weighed a good 14 lbs slammed into my face. Have had my back bent so hard from a slam I lost use of my legs for 10 to 15 minutes THAT is scary crap. And returned the favors in kind...My hands and knuckles have quite enough scars from it...

I have been shot at, not that scary you just wonder whether or not your going to feel that searing through you or if you are flipping fast enough.

I have rand from the cops, though I did a good enough job.

Nice to know I just get it all from movies though...Nice to know I havent shed blood and dealt blood. Nice to know you seem to know my life so well! Damn I do need to sit down and look back, all my memories and injuries must all be fake...damn I should see a doc and ask about these magical issues...

Did it ever occur to you that hey, violence is violence, and it has produced the best civilizations. Which nation became great without an act of violence? Yes it is dirty, bloody, and there is never really a right, just magnitude of wrongs.

But some of us, get so used to it, its just natural. What because I am not dead in a morgue from a gangster shooting I have never seen violence?

There is no romanticizing of it. The idea of gliding on that edge is the most intriguing thing to me. What the hell is there offered otherwise? A life in this world where its all about money, greed, entertainment in all its electronic and physical forms. Doing the same thing every one else does, every day, over and over...

Not every one can play sheep. Some of the people tied up in crimes, are so stuck there because they cant live in this bull crap world we have today. Stagnation at its max.

You cant pretend to analyze my posts. Because you dont have a clue. Obviously you are some kind of demi-god with the ability to see into anthers mind, and past.

What is it with people, and their need to suck into the masses, or the some of the ones who stand on the outside but think they can magically analyze everyone.

Many of your issues can be quite disproven come the proper timing...

Now men who barely qualify for the gender are allowed into control, and to make decisions affecting the masses.

Yes might used to be part of acquiring passage into adulthood...not anymore though.


But be happy, your ways are right...Look around America today, at the utopia civilization produced by your way...Or wait, you cant, because the person beside you weighs 400lbs of pure fat and cant lift himself out of his motor scooter. But its ok, he doesnt have to prove himself a man...No need for that today. His twinkie addictions are justified, we can support him, and let our nation go another notch..

I will be honest, my emotions may not work very well, maybe not well at all. I desire to help people, but even in church my nickname is "bloodyscientific" because I carry a rougher ideology and people know that.

One of the reasons I am single since my ex, is because no matter how many dates I go on, I cant get attached to anyone. Maybe I dont think right, maybe my emotions are that screwed. Fact is though, I will practice what I preach be it helping someone in need, or shooting someone if the justifiable situation presents itself.(aka, allows me to do it without going to jail)

There are 7 billion people, a few of them gone wont hurt a damn bit.

Very day this country does fall into an internal conflict/war if it ever does, I will be settling a few old scores from my past. Because the laws change.

What I cant stand though, is trying to be like every one else. I prefer my own path, regardless of your imaginations abilities to try and analyze me.

There is no analysis here, Zero. Your behavior is as plain as day for anybody with half a bran to realize, and I, nor most people here, believe a word you say about violence.
 
heard this mentioned somewhere but i think its kinda coincidental that the raid took place the first day of the olympia when many supplement companies had booths and tables set up there.interesting timing on the FDA's part.but really what statement are they trying to make?lol hell all the pro bodybuilders take FDA approved stuff like HGH,insulin and prescription anabolic steroids anyway.
 
My question is why are they raiding bb.com and not the manufacturers?

I keep asking the same question...

Probably because they can cut supply lines more quickly by going after the stores. Think about it if they go after manufacturers one by one then the ones that are not shut down can still sell through the supp stores. But if they raid the stores then all the manufacturers can't sell them. Its like taking care of 300 hundred birds with 1 stone.

I understand this but why hit us while other other companies are allowed to continue selling them??? Will they face harsher consequences because they continue to sell them even after recent event???

Gotcha. Will bb.com face any criminal action?

Likely not as long as they comply and work with the FDA. They are essentially a store and carried what was at that time legal.

They will have to do things such as what has been posted about taking down their steroid section of their forum, and such things like that.

Yeah i think pulling an additional 180 skus(and still rising) other than the 61 the FDA wanted would be considered compliance... :(
 
There is no analysis here, Zero. Your behavior is as plain as day for anybody with half a bran to realize, and I, nor most people here, believe a word you say about violence.

if you are that full of self worth and that foolish...so be it...you seem to think your assumed intelligence is somehow omnipotent...

My life has been my life, wtf do you want a History Channel Biography? You just like profiling, and cant stand the idea someone doesnt fit your ideology. You watch too much criminal minds or some other kind of TV show or something bro...

If you somehow psychically can see peoples lives so well, past, present, and future, why dont you have some kind of nice lil show yet with one of them other hacks?
 
I don't understand how you throw whacky, off the wall, half crazed and delusional repsonses from one extreme(religion) to the other(murder mayhem) and expect anything less from any of us... You don't need to be a 'seer' or 'demigod' to see signs of crazy.

You post ****ed up **** and then either bask in the glory of being called a nut or go into a wierd ass rant that includes your church nickname. Either way man, you brought this **** upon yourself.
 
I don't understand how you throw whacky, off the wall, half crazed and delusional repsonses from one extreme(religion) to the other(murder mayhem) and expect anything less from any of us... You don't need to be a 'seer' or 'demigod' to see signs of crazy.

You post ****ed up **** and then either bask in the glory of being called a nut or go into a wierd ass rant that includes your church nickname. Either way man, you brought this **** upon yourself.

Regardless, because I dont wear a single label of one specific thing, it makes me too weird eh? Because I dont stand still?

Because I have some views at opposite ends, follow neither republican nor democratic, or any specific ideology?

Sorry I dont flow with pre-sets.

It all seems crazy to you, but hell if crazy means I aint like you guys, I will take it with a cup of mania and a side of word salad.

Forgive me for not being a cookie cutter reprint.

Most of the time its people wanting to twist what I say or taking it in the wrong context or too literally, but tis all good. No explanation matters to you people because you dont give a damn, its your fun and games so it doesnt matter right, wrong, or indifferent.
 
Don't play the victim man, i've addressed some of your crazier points and ramblings in the past. There's a difference between blazing your own path and being your own man and what you're claiming to be. Sometimes when you're called crazy it isn't because you're different, it's because you're ****ing bat**** insane.
 
Who cares who does this or says that. I am so sick of the negative ****...especially from people who should know better!I come on this board to learn, to hear others experiences, to have a laugh. Just do me and all the rest of the members a favour and stop posting crap before people who make this board great leave.
 
Who cares who does this or says that. I am so sick of the negative ****...especially from people who should know better!I come on this board to learn, to hear others experiences, to have a laugh. Just do me and all the rest of the members a favour and stop posting crap before people who make this board great leave.

I would quite enjoy it to be over, but people have to assert their manhood via sad attempts at cyber bullying before that can happen.

Don't play the victim man, i've addressed some of your crazier points and ramblings in the past. There's a difference between blazing your own path and being your own man and what you're claiming to be. Sometimes when you're called crazy it isn't because you're different, it's because you're ****ing bat**** insane.

Like I said I will take my insanity thank you very much. I like the purple beaches and pink dolphins...
 
you guys are really going a bit far into this.

Zero i think u can admit sometimes u take things to levels they dont necessarily need to go, im not saying u dont have a right to say what u want im just saying sometimes the things u say can present themselves in a manner that is more than needed to prove a point.

Everyone bashing Zero he does have a right to his opinion no matter how wrong or right u think he is. If his language bothers u i would suggest that u either ask him to tone it down a bit in a respectful manner, we are all pretty much grown men (and women) in this forum we really dont need to argue like this, especially since we are supposed to be more of a community trying to help each other. Not a bunch of dudes sitting on computers trying to vocally/textually demonstrate how much bigger our ****s are then the person we are confronting.. If u wanna bash me go ahead u win im not going to even try to argue.

As far as the ban goes there really isnt a clear cut "its wrong" or "its right". I feel the majority of the makers of the PH's really did down play a majority of the possible side effects and could have elaborated more on the actual bottle of the product.

Then again people should be able to pick what they put in their bodies is the overwhelming consensus of this issue. I personally agree with this but u cant ignore the facts about the top ten reasons of mortality of the country are primerily lifestyle choices. Now this gets into where gov't should be involved and when it should not be in dictating what people should do with their lives. I am NOT getting into this i have my opinions im sure u have urs, ur not going to change my mind and im not going to attempt to try and change urs.

With all this being said i hope u all goodluck in ur training and regiments, and im sure i will see some of u in the oldschool hormone section later....trust me its fun there :) god bless test
 
What??? No self respecting AM member would be caught dead ordering from that place...

Haha well u make do when NP has certain sections liquidated. Trust me NP has seen plenty of business from me. That was my 1st ever purchase from bb.com and last.
 
I feel that many of our freedoms are being encroached upon and soon others will follow so I agree with some of McGun has said. I don't like this situation, I don't like it at all...

Something will have to give sooner or later. We have to start putting people in office that want what the people want and care more about their constituents and facts more than money from industry.

Since Kennedy, the government never will allow two politically separate frames of minds against each other. You think there is a difference between Obama and McCain, or between Bush and Gore? Of course not. It is all designed to make the people think there is such a thing as an open election.
Believe me boys, it is all downhill from now on.
 
You have no proof LOU is anything but a gentleman every interview l have read about him by other in his industries bodybuilding and movies has said only good things about him so stop making up bs unless you have proof. As far as Flex Wheeler goes do you know anything about his partying lifestyle you fool? you post like a 10 yo by the way.

ummm...my proof was that i saw it happen! I thought i made that pretty obvious in my first post. Its common knowledge that Lou does this, nothing new here. As far as Flex Wheelers party lifestyle goes...that has absolutely nothing to do with my post. You stated that Lou is a healthy 58 year old and has been using steroids for years. You think hes healthy because he took a good pic in a magazine recently. My point, and i thought that i made this clear, was that Flex took plenty of good pics in magazines as well. He was nowhere near healthy, but he sure looked it, huh. You have obviously not been able to keep up so i will type slower and use smaller words from now on, ok?

You sure do like to tell us Americans whats wrong with our country and why we dont live up to the ideals of our forefathers. Why do you even care? Im not going to start an e-fight with you so this will be my last post on this thread, but i will say this...Why dont you get off your high f#cking horse, ............... with the kangaroo you rode in on! (i owe you a dollar iron) Oh and by the way guys...heres a pic of the damn aussie thats trying to tell us how to run our lives....i bet his kangaroo thinks hes sexy!
 

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Zero, bar room brawls where a couple of guys get shot os nothing compared to the type of liberty rioting that you are considering...

From my perspective, you are talking about taking a collection of two or three hundred thousand men and declaring war.

Those types of battles end in massive blood shed. Have you ever smelled the dead bodies of a thousand men?
Hell, have you smelled the decaying flesh of 3 or 4 men. Ever had to carry the body? It doesn't bend the same after 5 day or so.
Some places where you may place your hands may make your hand sink in unexpectedly...that is heart attack material there, let me tell you.

I have brother and let me tell you this, the vomit rushed to my throat so fast that some spilled over out of my eye sockets...a sight ans smell so bad that DAYS later when your trying to take down your protein, you spit it back up because that scent is still in your nose and stomach.

That's not what you want, please believe me.
 
Probably pennies??? Doubtful... The qoh of some of those products was probably pretty high and considering the drop in people that will now order from elsewhere....

No, bb.com was well worth enough to garner a sell price of MULTIPLE MILLIONS. I heard in the upper half of 95 million dollars...their monthly sales were off the charts considering their size in comparison to other mega chains like walmart, target, costco, sams, bjs, etc...so, those few losses will hurt them like a knee scrap...also, liberty media owns them since last year. I highly doubt they are going feel the pain since they own several successful companies and organizations...
 
if you are that full of self worth and that foolish...so be it...you seem to think your assumed intelligence is somehow omnipotent...

My life has been my life, wtf do you want a History Channel Biography? You just like profiling, and cant stand the idea someone doesnt fit your ideology. You watch too much criminal minds or some other kind of TV show or something bro...

If you somehow psychically can see peoples lives so well, past, present, and future, why dont you have some kind of nice lil show yet with one of them other hacks?

You are not insane, nor idiosyncratic, nor this nobly violent priest/youth counselor/hard-on-his-luck protagonist that your character (see: a deliberate portrayal) on the internet purports himself to be. You are not a unique individual whom makes me uncomfortable with his blazon "non-conformity" - in fact, you seem to be going through quite a patent, if only retarded (delayed), phase of development.
 
You are not insane, nor idiosyncratic, nor this nobly violent priest/youth counselor/hard-on-his-luck protagonist that your character (see: a deliberate portrayal) on the internet purports himself to be. You are not a unique individual whom makes me uncomfortable with his blazon "non-conformity" - in fact, you seem to be going through quite a patent, if only retarded (delayed), phase of development.

Well I guess we can just end the thread here.
 
I read the first 5 pages. After that the thread spiraled into nonsense.

I asked if there will be clones or if PH's are done for good. I saw no direct yes or no answer in the first 5 pages.

The reason I'm asking is because something simular happened in 2004. bodybuildbid.com/articles/newsevents/2004/prohormoneban.html
 
Since Kennedy, the government never will allow two politically separate frames of minds against each other. You think there is a difference between Obama and McCain, or between Bush and Gore? Of course not. It is all designed to make the people think there is such a thing as an open election.
Believe me boys, it is all downhill from now on.

I'm aware of that. Almost all politicians are untrustworthy as far as I'm concerned. They are only concerned about personal preservation and advancement. Its a real shame, but just because I know things are the way they are doesn't mean I dislike it any less and still don't hope for some form of change.

In recent news(and off topic): Now they are not posting the health care bill online. How sweet of them, this bill is "for the people" and yet they won't post it so the people can have easier access to it. Maybe if enough Americans get fed up with the wool googles we are forced to wear things can change.

I understand this but why hit us while other other companies are allowed to continue selling them??? Will they face harsher consequences because they continue to sell them even after recent event???

Its called General Deterrence its a criminal justice theory term

By "us" I assume you mean bb.com? Because they are hoping to pressure other supplements stores into stopping the sale of these compound by making an example of bb.com.

Its like when you drive by someone that has been pulled over for speeding and then you speed down.

Hope that makes since. EDIT* and yes they could face harsher consequences
 
You are not insane, nor idiosyncratic, nor this nobly violent priest/youth counselor/hard-on-his-luck protagonist that your character (see: a deliberate portrayal) on the internet purports himself to be. You are not a unique individual whom makes me uncomfortable with his blazon "non-conformity" - in fact, you seem to be going through quite a patent, if only retarded (delayed), phase of development.

Lets just take care of this properly. Lets take a trip into international waters. Where things are different. Since you seem to know me so well, it should all be fine...

Honestly I think you have read one too many books or watched one too many of those network "Profiler" shows where you think you have some kind of ability to magically piece together someones life.
 
this is ****ing bull**** U WANNA KNOW WHY ****ING STEROIDS ARE ILLEGAL TAKE A GOOD ****ING LOOK AT WHAT ALL OF U ARE SAYING TO EACH OTHER. u cant even ****ing have a conversation about politics without ****ing threatening violence or demeaning the **** out of each other. Well WTF how the **** are u suppose to convince teh governemnt and other people that steroids dont create roid rage when all that ****ing goes on in this god damn thread and many other threads is threats back and forth and people calling each other out.

U WANNA KNOW WHO ****ING WINS??? THE GUY WITH A ****ING GUN now shut the **** up i dont care how many fights u have been in or how many guns u own or how big or small u are, or how u can sneak into each others houes or stalk each other on the internet or whatever the **** ur going to say next. You all have ****ing HUGE ****S we get the ****ing point.

U wanna know why steroids are illegal and the bans are so eay to do? Look at all of u, This place is probably the MOST knowlegeable and Supportive commuinity of people involved in bodybuilding if we cant set a ****nig example WHO THE **** WILL???? Not a god damn law is going to change until the language and way people talk to each other involved in anabolics does first. U change things by example.

This thread is ****ing dead just end it now theres no intellectual conversation going on, no points are being made, and everyone is too busy trying to flex their nuts that common sense has gone out the ****ing window. NONE of u are going to end up fighting eaach other and even if u did it doesnt prove a ****ing thing, so u can kick someones ass? Well whoopdee****ingdoooo, its not exactly like thats hard these days. U guys disagree end of discussion. U wanna change the laws set a good example u wanna bitch like a bunch of 12 year olds keep on gonig i garunttee u nothing will change if this is how we interact with eaach other and this is how the general public views us.
 
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this is ****ing bull**** U WANNA KNOW WHY ****ING STEROIDS ARE ILLEGAL TAKE A GOOD ****ING LOOK AT WHAT ALL OF U ARE SAYING TO EACH OTHER. u cant even ****ing have a conversation about politics without ****ing threatening violence or demeaning the **** out of each other. Well WTF how the **** are u suppose to convince teh governemnt and other people that steroids dont create roid rage when all that ****ing goes on in this god damn thread and many other threads is threats back and forth and people calling each other out.

U WANNA KNOW WHO ****ING WINS??? THE GUY WITH A ****ING GUN now shut the **** up i dont care how many fights u have been in or how many guns u own or how big or small u are, or how u can sneak into each others houes or stalk each other on the internet or whatever the **** ur going to say next. You all have ****ing HUGE ****S we get the ****ing point.

U wanna know why steroids are illegal and the bans are so eay to do? Look at all of u, This place is probably the MOST knowlegeable and Supportive commuinity of people involved in bodybuilding if we cant set a ****nig example WHO THE **** WILL???? Not a god damn law is going to change until the language and way people talk to each other involved in anabolics does first. U change things by example.

This thread is ****ing dead just end it now theres no intellectual conversation going on, no points are being made, and everyone is too busy trying to flex their nuts that common sense has gone out the ****ing window. NONE of u are going to end up fighting eaach other and even if u did it doesnt prove a ****ing thing, so u can kick someones ass? Well whoopdee****ingdoooo, its not exactly like thats hard these days. U guys disagree end of discussion. U wanna change the laws set a good example u wanna bitch like a bunch of 12 year olds keep on gonig i garunttee u nothing will change if this is how we interact with eaach other and this is how the general public views us.
 
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this is ****ing bull**** U WANNA KNOW WHY ****ING STEROIDS ARE ILLEGAL TAKE A GOOD ****ING LOOK AT WHAT ALL OF U ARE SAYING TO EACH OTHER. u cant even ****ing have a conversation about politics without ****ing threatening violence or demeaning the **** out of each other. Well WTF how the **** are u suppose to convince teh governemnt and other people that steroids dont create roid rage when all that ****ing goes on in this god damn thread and many other threads is threats back and forth and people calling each other out.

U WANNA KNOW WHO ****ING WINS??? THE GUY WITH A ****ING GUN now shut the **** up i dont care how many fights u have been in or how many guns u own or how big or small u are, or how u can sneak into each others houes or stalk each other on the internet or whatever the **** ur going to say next. You all have ****ing HUGE ****S we get the ****ing point.

U wanna know why steroids are illegal and the bans are so eay to do? Look at all of u, This place is probably the MOST knowlegeable and Supportive commuinity of people involved in bodybuilding if we cant set a ****nig example WHO THE **** WILL???? Not a god damn law is going to change until the language and way people talk to each other involved in anabolics does first. U change things by example.

This thread is ****ing dead just end it now theres no intellectual conversation going on, no points are being made, and everyone is too busy trying to flex their nuts that common sense has gone out the ****ing window. NONE of u are going to end up fighting eaach other and even if u did it doesnt prove a ****ing thing, so u can kick someones ass? Well whoopdee****ingdoooo, its not exactly like thats hard these days. U guys disagree end of discussion. U wanna change the laws set a good example u wanna bitch like a bunch of 12 year olds keep on gonig i garunttee u nothing will change if this is how we interact with eaach other and this is how the general public views us.

There is a key import to take away from your post: that you apparently have the ability to contract (i.e., "flex") your testicles, which I find quite impressive; to date, I have not been able to get my nuts to "flex", even after directly injecting them with steroids.
 
There is a key import to take away from your post: that you apparently have the ability to contract (i.e., "flex") your testicles, which I find quite impressive; to date, I have not been able to get my nuts to "flex", even after directly injecting them with steroids.

that had to ****ing hurt
props
 
ummm...my proof was that i saw it happen! I thought i made that pretty obvious in my first post. Its common knowledge that Lou does this, nothing new here. As far as Flex Wheelers party lifestyle goes...that has absolutely nothing to do with my post. You stated that Lou is a healthy 58 year old and has been using steroids for years. You think hes healthy because he took a good pic in a magazine recently. My point, and i thought that i made this clear, was that Flex took plenty of good pics in magazines as well. He was nowhere near healthy, but he sure looked it, huh. You have obviously not been able to keep up so i will type slower and use smaller words from now on, ok?

You sure do like to tell us Americans whats wrong with our country and why we dont live up to the ideals of our forefathers. Why do you even care? Im not going to start an e-fight with you so this will be my last post on this thread, but i will say this...Why dont you get off your high f#cking horse, ............... with the kangaroo you rode in on! (i owe you a dollar iron) Oh and by the way guys...heres a pic of the damn aussie thats trying to tell us how to run our lives....i bet his kangaroo thinks hes sexy!


mod edit: bye. you were warned.
 
No, bb.com was well worth enough to garner a sell price of MULTIPLE MILLIONS. I heard in the upper half of 95 million dollars...thier monthly sales were off the charts comsidering their size in comparison to other mega chains like walmart, target, costco, sams, bjs, etc...so, those few losses will hurt them like a knee scrap...also, liberty media owns them since last year. I highly doubt they are going feel the pain since they own several successful companies and organizations...

projected profits are what makes corporations go, when profits fall well below what was projected the people in charge know their time is done. with not only a loss in profits but scandal on top, you can bet the people who were in charge over at bb.com have already cleaned out their offices. the corporation will survive but i will bet that this was felt very deeply by a lot of people. on a side note to make up for loss of profits whats the first thing corporations do today? they lay people off at the bottom, it's just a fact of life in the good old usa. so as always the people at the top will land on their feet, and the everyday joe's just trying to make a living will be the one's to get hurt-as usual. every move the government makes to hurt the people at the top always seems to bite the little guy on the asss-not to mention the inevitable increase in price we will all be paying for our supplements real soon, look for prices to skyrocket. i have decided that the corporations and people at the top are untouchable, every time something doesn't go their way they lay off people at the bottom off and raise prices. the little guy is going to get screwed everytime.
 
Honestly I think you have read one too many books or watched one too many of those network "Profiler" shows where you think you have some kind of ability to magically piece together someones life.

No, it's that obvious because a lot of us have been through similar. It usually happens about 10 years earlier than it has with you, though.

Of course we should also realize nothing we say directly to you can affect it, it's something you have to figure out on your own.
 
Hey moderater. How about removing this thread instead of singling out people. It has got way out of hand long ago with i think you have been aware of.Do this before e-fights spill over to real life.
 
Why would they do that. What's that saying about heat and the kitchen... yeah, that one.
Hey moderater. How about removing this thread instead of singling out people. It has got way out of hand long ago with i think you have been aware of.Do this before e-fights spill over to real life.
 
Well I am about to go in the kitchen...and cook eggs mmm what are we talking about again?

Oh ya the raids at bb.com lol
 
No, it's that obvious because a lot of us have been through similar. It usually happens about 10 years earlier than it has with you, though.

Of course we should also realize nothing we say directly to you can affect it, it's something you have to figure out on your own.

Give this man a prize!

:gas:
 
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