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PH BAN What are you stocking up on and why are we worried ....

I know alotta people think it's marketing or a BS ploy to boost sales.

It very well could be.

But, why would IBE cease production of it's most popular, and therefore profitable formula, Epistane and why would AF do the same with it's SD-Max?

I'd give you a $100.00 if you find these two anywhere at close to retail price.

I have a buddy who works at a mid size online supp company and says they think that this time the ban is gonna be for real and be serious. Think is the operative word, here. They could be speculating incorectly, but it's highly unlikely. The fact they haven't been given a time frame is cause enough for concern, but in all likelihoood, it will haappen.

It's more of a question of when.

If you stock up and nothing happens, trade 'em with your buddies or use them, yourself.

Best case you end up with too much, worse case you end up with jack sh_t.

Your choice.
 
Stocking up as well, but unfortunately I`m not profiting from the Sales you guys talking bout, I get mine from a UK based webshop, no pre-Ban sales here unfortunately..Sucks living in europe.
So far I got:
1 CEL E-stane
2 CEL X-tren
and 3 CEL EQ-plex and 2 CEL M-drol are coming my way as we speak..:D
 
It means they have the green light to get involved and make policy decisions about subjects they know absolutely nothing about is what it means.

It could go either way, really.

Our Gov't is famous for making great decisions.

Look how good they did with the economy. Bailed out GM, which ended up going bankrupt, anyway. There was a great move.

Gave ridiculous amounts of many to the very people who fuc_ed us all to beging with.
Another Einsteinian move.

Yeah, the ban(s) will probably end up happening eventually. Elections will be coming up.
 
There are nutraplanet representatives on this board, what is the explanation for the liquidation of some of their products? Surely there has to be some reason for this. What do they know that we do not?
 
Iron Lungz has explained that one. I think it was more or less to turn what little profit they could off the PH's rather than risk the FDA telling them to inventory these products and freeze them before they could be sold.
 
stock up on what you like but I can tell you from past experience I do feel some things lose their potency etc over time. So when I stock up I stock up up with enough for a few cycles and that's it. No use having 5 bottles of something you probablly won't use. Just because it might get banned better to get something you know works for you and stick to that when a ban comes you want what you know works for you
 
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Originally Posted by wilsmash4food
ok..blood pressure is down now. calm. hey..iron lungz..for the sake of curiosity..why did NP make the call to stop selling ph/ps? thats gotta be bad for buisness. i would venture to say that most of sales came from gym rats buying good sups from you guys. is it all the pressure from the gov?

Simple: If we do not Liquidate now when the it is still legal to do, once they (FDA) drop the hammer, no one will be able to sale them. That would mean that all the stock, by law, would have to be destroyed. Also, we do not want them to breath down our necks and try to shut us down. It's really simple - sale and make money not only for us, but for the actual company who they belong to. Profit margins are very small with this sale; we needed to get rid of them so that we, or the sponsoring company did not loose a hell of a lot of money.


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technically if NP is not selling PH/DS anymore it really wouldnt be stepping on their toes to mention someone else would it? It would be like linking a site which sells nike shoes, which is ok since NP doesn't sell it... at least thats my IMO lol

At any rate I think it is because of the governmental BS at the moment.

I'm sorry, but it would still be promoting sale for another E-Merchant. Nutra pays good money to have this little island for their marketing/sales; so technically, it would still be considered against the rules.
 
liftin4fun said:
My stock pile contains:
5 Epi
2 S Drol
10M drol
7 H drol
8PP
10 Bold
4 Halo-Tren
5 Tren
This is more than I will ever use. If I do use them all I will stack them together. I could run a 12 month cycle.

I also might through some Muscle Tech products to get some better results.
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You're nuts. I got nowhere near that much and I got plenty.



I thought I went Overboard.
 
I stocked up because I would rather have a lot than none. Plus the prices were too good to pass up.

pre-ban scare sale
17 pills of Xtreme Tren
50 pills of M-Drol by CEL
82 pills of T-Roid by Hardcore Formulations
2 bottles of 1-T Tren

Then for the ban scare
3 bottles of HD-2 by Performance Design
2 bottles of EFX by Performance Design
3 bottles of SD-1 by Performance Design
2 bottles of P-Plex by CEL
2 bottles of X-Tren by CEL
2 bottles of Finavol by Advanced Performance Supplements
 
I look at it this way. It can't hurt to have the next 2-4 cycles ready to go....at these prices why not. I have noticed that some other sites are selling at a discount as well.

Not sure how much any of you are involved with any of our political processes, but right now these B@%#$&*s are rolling over what the people want, and refusing to listen to their constituants.

I've got my next 3, mabey 4 cycles. If I'm satisfied with my size after 2 well I can gift some of my stock to someone else, a lifting buddy, whatever.

Also, if they are are banned, what will they be worth then? Of course I personally would NEVER, EVER, IN A MILLION YEARS break the law!
 
svenvz said:
Stocking up as well, but unfortunately I`m not profiting from the Sales you guys talking bout, I get mine from a UK based webshop, no pre-Ban sales here unfortunately..Sucks living in europe.
So far I got:
1 CEL E-stane
2 CEL X-tren
and 3 CEL EQ-plex and 2 CEL M-drol are coming my way as we speak..:D
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what uk supplement site do you use out of intrest im from the uk but order my supplements from america from a site called island supplements. i always get mine.
 
Does anyone know any of the legistics behind this bill? Is it attached to a bigger bill as pork? If so what's the name of that bill?
 
Might be a good investment to buy up as much as possible and go blackmarket on it....if its goes ANDRO doesn't that mean you'd be making a killing....?
 
Here in HAwaii, when the SUS 500 was banned, they had an unlimited amount of stock and still sell it legally right now for the same damn price!
 
this whole ban makes me so mad. soooooo many other countries have juice just available at any side corner and they hardly seem to have any issues. i really don't see how steroids are worse than cigarettes or alcohol or marijuana. they should just legalize juice, but make it available only if you are 21. its just because steroids have no strong lobby group and so there is no way a politician can be TOO strict on it and if they vote against it they look like an A $$$hole in the media and the attack adds pretty much write themself.

sucks. in the end, has any of these laws really ever kept anyone from trying gear in the end anyway? just like marijuana right, that stuff has been illegal for a long time now and its actually rare to find someone that has never tried it at this point. stupid laws.

PS:
anyone want to recommend a good NON methyl oral i could stock up on? i've got plenty of Superdrol, Hdrol and Phera but would be good to have some cool new non-methyl to stack with them.
 
Check out Advanced Muscle Science stuff , good non methyl orals and utt just a bit pricey

4furazadrol
5 epistane
4 mdrol
7 eq plex
7 p mag
7 hdrol
1 xmass
2 formestane
3 1-androsterone
3 4-ad
2 Decavol
 
neverstop said:
PS:
anyone want to recommend a good NON methyl oral i could stock up on? i've got plenty of Superdrol, Hdrol and Phera but would be good to have some cool new non-methyl to stack with them.
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Bold/Tren. Bold requires a high dose though!
 
4-M DROL
4-X TREN
4-H DROL
3-P PLEX
2-THE ONE W/2ndGEAR
3-FORMESTANE

This should last for a few future cycles, maybe
 
Wuz also debating on sum Epi, but dont know if its worth it, maybe for the gyno reversal factor(if its true). Anyone got any input on this?
 
Just wanted to know if anybody had a complete list of the ban. I found out that SPAWN was discontinued :( it's okay I found a better stack anyways :D
 
AMTorres said:
Just wanted to know if anybody had a complete list of the ban. I found out that SPAWN was banned :( it's okay I found a better stack anyways :D
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Well since I have not seen any actual official documents on a ban, this thread is more hysteria than anything. It may be well intentioned with everything going but I think its still a bit soon to be yelling ban and stocking up.

Also SPAWN is not banned, Myogenix (sp) has just decided to discontinue production of it. A few companies like RSS and Chaparro Labs both make this product stack.
 
Hey Grambo, I read up on it and ACL got raided and they had to discontinue their products Tren Xtreme and Mass Xtreme. Luckily a hookup of mine sold me 2 bottles of Tren Xtreme today, so i'm good to go on my up and coming tren epi cycle :D
 
AMTorres said:
Hey Grambo, I read up on it and ACL got raided and they had to discontinue their products Tren Xtreme and Mass Xtreme. Luckily a hookup of mine sold me 2 bottles of Tren Xtreme today, so i'm good to go on my up and coming tren epi cycle :D
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What you doing up at this hour haha..... thats good. I hope you didn't pay too much as it is the same "Tren" that CEL and other companies still have ;)
 
Why? No one has ever claimed it is any different to my knowledge..... They got busted for directly and blatantly advertising their stuff as steroids, and Max Muscle selling to anyone with cash, not for an illegal substance per say.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I know, **** what society says, they're wrong on so many things. Now something to mention to people against the legalization of steroids is that many other countries have them all readily available at pharmacies, and I don't believe any of them have problems with it. The moral crusade against it here is really... UN-American...
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i got about 100 Dbol and a few other products and going to get some more
 
1-M-Drol
1-X-Tren
1-THE ONE
1-E-Stane

Is my current very small supply...am probably gonna get another SD clone...
 
Random181 said:
1-M-Drol
1-X-Tren
1-THE ONE
1-E-Stane

Is my current very small supply...am probably gonna get another SD clone...
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my next is alpha tren order that tomorrow

1-methyl E
1-hemobolin250
1-maxdrol
1-Dbol
1-parabol
1-annadrall
 
Mass Tabs, Hdrol, PPlex, Dymethazine and some Epi is what I stocked up on.


And No, I'm hot feezing them or any crazy sh_t like that.
 
The "scare" has encouraged me to jump into my 1st ever cycle. Good job FDA :P

Grabbed
3 bottles of EFX Epi
1 Novedex XT
1 Formex

Check out my thread ( i can't post links) if you'd like but I don't have much in the way of hard numbers. I'm starting the last week of my epi.
 
HEY TO ALL THAT THINK FREEZING YOUR PILLS IS A GOOD IDEA, I JUST LOST A WHOLE BOTTLE OF HDROL, BECUZ WHEN I PULLED IT OUT OF THE FREEZER AND OPENED IT, THE PILLS WERE STILL COLD AND WHEN INTRODUCED TO THE WARM AIR, PRESTO ALL THE PILLS GOT ALL SWEATY, AND MELTED TOGETHER, I DID LEAVE THE REST OUT OF MY STOCK OUT OF THE FREEZER.

SO IF YOU DID PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THEM IN THE BAGS AND UNOPENED CONTAINER AND DEFROST THEM LIKE STEAKS.
 
Grambo said:
Why? No one has ever claimed it is any different to my knowledge..... They got busted for directly and blatantly advertising their stuff as steroids, and Max Muscle selling to anyone with cash, not for an illegal substance per say.
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This is why they got raided..

"Based upon the FDA’s FCC findings that ACL’s “Tren Xtreme” and “Mass Xtreme” contained “Tren” and “Madol,” respectively, and upon the DEA analyses that show that these drugs meet the current definition of an “anabolic steroid” under federal law, I believe that there is probable cause to believe that the distribution of ACL’s “Tren Xtreme” and “Mass Xtreme” violates the Controlled Substance Act as defined in paragraphs 17 and 18 of this affidavit."
 
lyfespan said:
HEY TO ALL THAT THINK FREEZING YOUR PILLS IS A GOOD IDEA, I JUST LOST A WHOLE BOTTLE OF HDROL, BECUZ WHEN I PULLED IT OUT OF THE FREEZER AND OPENED IT, THE PILLS WERE STILL COLD AND WHEN INTRODUCED TO THE WARM AIR, PRESTO ALL THE PILLS GOT ALL SWEATY, AND MELTED TOGETHER, I DID LEAVE THE REST OUT OF MY STOCK OUT OF THE FREEZER.

SO IF YOU DID PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THEM IN THE BAGS AND UNOPENED CONTAINER AND DEFROST THEM LIKE STEAKS.
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Honestly, do you know what how old school fridges worked? A cellar or a hole in the ground. It kept it cool, but was nothing as cold as todays stuff. Find the coldest darkest part of your house, and store them after vacuum sealing em.

Did you seal teh hdrol? If not moisture got in there. That is a big diff...
 
Zero V said:
Honestly, do you know what how old school fridges worked? A cellar or a hole in the ground. It kept it cool, but was nothing as cold as todays stuff. Find the coldest darkest part of your house, and store them after vacuum sealing em.

Did you seal teh hdrol? If not moisture got in there. That is a big diff...
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no the point here is that if you pull your sealed bottles out of the freezer and the pills are cool when warm air hits the inside of the bottle, you get condensation on the pills themselves. NOT GOOD
 
lyfespan said:
no the point here is that if you pull your sealed bottles out of the freezer and the pills are cool when warm air hits the inside of the bottle, you get condensation on the pills themselves. NOT GOOD
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I am corrected ^.^ good point!

Hey what are those little metal things you put stuff in that keeps it dehumidified for the kitchen... Pull em out and toss em in there! haha
 
Zero V said:
I am corrected ^.^ good point!

Hey what are those little metal things you put stuff in that keeps it dehumidified for the kitchen... Pull em out and toss em in there! haha
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thoses would be silica dioxide bags or sum moisture wicking crap, and that would mean breaking the factory seal as well, but good idea
 
lyfespan said:
thoses would be silica dioxide bags or sum moisture wicking crap, and that would mean breaking the factory seal as well, but good idea
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No what I am thinking of, is a metal container people put bread and stuff in, and other foods, and it keeps them good longer, and acts as a dehumidifier.
 
lol, i put mine in thoses forever bags, cut down on oxidation. AS SEEN ON TV, baby, so you know its gotta werk
 
Zero, you'll have to find out what you're thinking of and let us all know! I was trying to find it on google but couldnt :(
 
lyfespan said:
HEY TO ALL THAT THINK FREEZING YOUR PILLS IS A GOOD IDEA, I JUST LOST A WHOLE BOTTLE OF HDROL, BECUZ WHEN I PULLED IT OUT OF THE FREEZER AND OPENED IT, THE PILLS WERE STILL COLD AND WHEN INTRODUCED TO THE WARM AIR, PRESTO ALL THE PILLS GOT ALL SWEATY, AND MELTED TOGETHER, I DID LEAVE THE REST OUT OF MY STOCK OUT OF THE FREEZER.

SO IF YOU DID PUT THEM IN THE FREEZER YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THEM IN THE BAGS AND UNOPENED CONTAINER AND DEFROST THEM LIKE STEAKS.
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I think someone stated freezing to be a bad idea in another post somewhere.


Hmmmm...........I wonder who it was????????
 
A desiccant is something that sucks water out of the air. But keep in mind they are toxic and you don't want it actually touching something you're going to ingest. You could probably put some in the freezer bag but outside of the bottle, or wrap the desiccant powder in a coffee filter and tie it off.

You can buy a bottle of powder at a hobby shop. Its used for drying flowers.

I think just using a little vacuum freezer bag would be easier.
 
hide em in your dresser drawer and put clothes over them. this way they stay cool and dark. there is no need to freeze em unless you use em 10 years down the road. (thank you unreal, mooch lol) your dresser wont harm them at all.
 
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