Metroba tries out teh MMV3s

[TexasLifter89]

nope but sounds interesting... I wonder if it is a recreation of whatever that other one was called... I can't remember

 

[EasyEJL]

anyone have good ideas for me to replace deadlifts with for DC?

 

[GMG760]

Any of you guys here about this MyoT12 (myostatin inhibitor)? Supposed to lower mystatin by 48%.

It's not released yet, so no real word. If it really works to block myostatin it's potentially very effective, but at the same time potentially REALLY dangerous. We'll have to wait and see.

The last person I heard talking about myostatin inhibition was DJbombsquad... :lol:

 

[GMG760]

anyone have good ideas for me to replace deadlifts with for DC?

Are bb rows out of the question? Good mornings?

 

[TexasLifter89]

It's not released yet, so no real word. If it really works to block myostatin it's potentially very effective, but at the same time potentially REALLY dangerous. We'll have to wait and see.

The last person I heard talking about myostatin inhibition was DJbombsquad... :lol:

yup. I personally have no need to play with that stuff because my goal in life is not to be huge. It is to be healthy, in shape, and have a nice physique.

 

[Frank Reynolds]

anyone have good ideas for me to replace deadlifts with for DC?

All dead type movements are off limits, or just floor deads specifically?

 

[metroba]

Good points..I guess we'll just have to see.

 

[hman85]

It's not released yet, so no real word. If it really works to block myostatin it's potentially very effective, but at the same time potentially REALLY dangerous. We'll have to wait and see.

The last person I heard talking about myostatin inhibition was DJbombsquad... :lol:

Correction it is out. It is proven to lower myo by 48% after 12-18 hours of consumption and then level back out bytr 24 hours. sounds like some great stuff if it works well. I think it might considering the price. 100 for 30 days supply at one dose per day.

 

[metroba]

No doubt it will be expensive

 

[hman85]

No doubt it will be expensive

If it really lowers it 48% that could be some awesome gains, but what i am wondering is if you will just lose it after you stop and myostatin levels go back to normal.

 

[metroba]

So my next scheduled workout was Thursday. Im thinking I'll take off working out for a week. Give myself a forced cruise period. So I will cease Prime now and restart when I get the lump situation situated. Imprez, since I was still progressing on everything you think I should pick up where I left off in a week or switch up exercises?

 

[Frank Reynolds]

So my next scheduled workout was Thursday. Im thinking I'll take off working out for a week. Give myself a forced cruise period. So I will cease Prime now and restart when I get the lump situation situated. Imprez, since I was still progressing on everything you think I should pick up where I left off in a week or switch up exercises?

I would stick with them, unless you feel there may be better movements, to swap them with. Like if you are doing tricep push downs or something..lol.

 

[metroba]

haha no I am not doing any tricep pushdowns. I may change a few exercises but for the most part Im gonna stick with what I have been doing.

 

[EasyEJL]

Are bb rows out of the question? Good mornings?

supported bb rows are fine, bent overs don't really work. The good mornings will work well too, since they'll be light enough. the particular list I took it from had deads, rack deads and t-bar rows for back thickness.

All dead type movements are off limits, or just floor deads specifically?

primarily floor deads, but rack deads too really. effectively call it "heavy deads". Between hand arthritis and no grip strength, combined with lower back arthritis and I reach pain or loosing grip before I reach real muscle activation.

 

[GMG760]

supported bb rows are fine, bent overs don't really work. The good mornings will work well too, since they'll be light enough. the particular list I took it from had deads, rack deads and t-bar rows for back thickness.



primarily floor deads, but rack deads too really. effectively call it "heavy deads". Between hand arthritis and no grip strength, combined with lower back arthritis and I reach pain or loosing grip before I reach real muscle activation.

I think you and I are starting from the same list. I was going to do rack deads, but I find them kinda pointless alongside regular deadlifts, and I am just a fan of BB rows. Maybe CG Tbar rows on the supported machine, Wide grip Tbar rows on the supported machine, and good mornings.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

supported bb rows are fine, bent overs don't really work. The good mornings will work well too, since they'll be light enough. the particular list I took it from had deads, rack deads and t-bar rows for back thickness.



primarily floor deads, but rack deads too really. effectively call it "heavy deads". Between hand arthritis and no grip strength, combined with lower back arthritis and I reach pain or loosing grip before I reach real muscle activation.

Easy, try sitting cable pulls with an EZ bar and use an underhand grip on the bar at it's ends. Pull the bar to mid ABs area with a good back arch.

 

[GMG760]

Correction it is out. It is proven to lower myo by 48% after 12-18 hours of consumption and then level back out bytr 24 hours. sounds like some great stuff if it works well. I think it might considering the price. 100 for 30 days supply at one dose per day.

Really? The official website says coming soon. Hmm, we'll see what happens. I am definitely not guinea pigging myself for that one though.

Edit: Where did you find it Hman? The schedualed release is in september.

 

[GMG760]

Easy, try sitting cable pulls with an EZ bar and use an underhand grip on the bar at it's ends. Pull the bar to mid ABs area with a good back arch.

Good idea!

 

[EasyEJL]

I think you and I are starting from the same list. I was going to do rack deads, but I find them kinda pointless alongside regular deadlifts, and I am just a fan of BB rows. Maybe CG Tbar rows on the supported machine, Wide grip Tbar rows on the supported machine, and good mornings.

Easy, try sitting cable pulls with an EZ bar and use an underhand grip on the bar at it's ends. Pull the bar to mid ABs area with a good back arch.

I think cg tbar rows, the wide ez underhand seated cable pulls and good mornings sounds like a good plan. I think i'm starting back up friday, that will have been 2 weeks of nothing but cardio and keto. i'm down like 10-11 lbs as it is, so it was a success for fat loss for sure.

 

[metroba]

these look interesting
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Y7l07uVS4"]YouTube - DC Training cable long rows[/ame]

 

[metroba]

except that the fact his TUT is fuct

 

[EasyEJL]

if that myostatin blocker works like folloxstatin or however it was spelled I think it will mostly give additional results on top of anabolics. What it does is "take the brakes" off your body's process of adding muscle. But even so as a strict natural I can't see more than 8lbs gained in the month all lean. But couple that crap with anabolics and it could be a 40lb gains test cycle. Thats what a few people have theorized btw, that part of long cycles loosing effectiveness isn't due to receptor issues, but to your body increasing myostatin in response to rapid muscle growth...

 

[metroba]

interesting

 

[EasyEJL]

ok, I did my rapid fire research, and it is follistatin from fertilized egg yolk extract. So there is definitely possibility of it working

 

[hman85]

Really? The official website says coming soon. Hmm, we'll see what happens. I am definitely not guinea pigging myself for that one though.

Edit: Where did you find it Hman? The schedualed release is in september.

Yeah well it is on backorder it says but It has it for sale and the price. Its from prosource, I didn't even check the website until just now and I got the mag yesterday with it for sale so who knows.

 

[hman85]

if that myostatin blocker works like folloxstatin or however it was spelled I think it will mostly give additional results on top of anabolics. What it does is "take the brakes" off your body's process of adding muscle. But even so as a strict natural I can't see more than 8lbs gained in the month all lean. But couple that crap with anabolics and it could be a 40lb gains test cycle. Thats what a few people have theorized btw, that part of long cycles loosing effectiveness isn't due to receptor issues, but to your body increasing myostatin in response to rapid muscle growth...

Look at the people that lack the genes though. Like that one baby from germany. He was 5 when I saw last pictures of him and it was ridiculous. If he trains he can be mr olympia without sauce for sure. They never hold any body fat either.

 

[hman85]

Finally got it up metro

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/weight-loss/132696-hmans-cutting-up.html#post2083163

 

[metroba]

Ill check out the log bro..can you put up a link to recent pics of that myostatin kid?

 

[EasyEJL]

Look at the people that lack the genes though. Like that one baby from germany. He was 5 when I saw last pictures of him and it was ridiculous. If he trains he can be mr olympia without sauce for sure. They never hold any body fat either.

yes, but thats because.... they go thru their entire growth phase with no myostatin. Myostatin primarily acts like SHBG to limit amount of muscle added the way shbg limits amount of free test. So by itself it might make some difference, but using it in a 16 week test cycle would make a much larger difference

 

[Frank Reynolds]

except that the fact his TUT is fuct

Ya, that is more for advanced people as a widowmaker..

Have you ever tried these?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAUAqIdKrw&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - 1 arm t bar row[/ame]

I did them monday, just push an Olympic bar into a corner. I stood to one side of it, not through my legs like Bruno. Feels interesting. Going to try like Brunos next time see what i like better.

Bent over rows barbell, and smith

I know deads bother you but have you tried them on a hammer strength shrug machine? I swapped these in, when i was dealing with some back issues, with success.

 

[EasyEJL]

haven't tried the hammer machine but its worth a shot. problem is that its not just back but also grip. I can't without straps deadlift 180+bar. at 140 I can just about hold on. sucks to have arthritis

 

[metroba]

Ya, that is more for advanced people as a widowmaker..

Have you ever tried these?

YouTube - 1 arm t bar row

I did them monday, just push an Olympic bar into a corner. I stood to one side of it, not through my legs like Bruno. Feels interesting. Going to try like Brunos next time see what i like better.

Bent over rows barbell, and smith

I know deads bother you but have you tried them on a hammer strength shrug machine? I swapped these in, when i was dealing with some back issues, with success.

That looks awesome

 

[Irish Cannon]

So I was walking in my gym today and stubbed my toe; lo and behold, it's one of those little bar-holders for that exact exercise! They must have just put it in. I was never so happy to be in pain.

 

[metroba]

Im jealous

 

[Frank Reynolds]

haven't tried the hammer machine but its worth a shot. problem is that its not just back but also grip. I can't without straps deadlift 180+bar. at 140 I can just about hold on. sucks to have arthritis

Whats the problem with straps?

 

[metroba]

Mann I've gotten sooooo dense and thick from just 4 days of Prime use sucks I have to take this week off. My gf commented I look leaner too :frustrate...sacrifices

 

[tyler4]

I'm excited to start this Prime you speak of

 

[metroba]

Its good stuff..some respond more than others.

 

[EasyEJL]

Whats the problem with straps?

even with them it was hard to hold on, at least the plain set of straps I have. I might have to go somewhere that has a better selection and try a few on.

 

[VolcomX311]

Its good stuff..some respond more than others.

I thought I felt my ear itching :afro:

 

[metroba]

.

 

[VolcomX311]

Ya, that is more for advanced people as a widowmaker..

Have you ever tried these?

YouTube - 1 arm t bar row

I did them monday, just push an Olympic bar into a corner. I stood to one side of it, not through my legs like Bruno. Feels interesting. Going to try like Brunos next time see what i like better.

Bent over rows barbell, and smith

I know deads bother you but have you tried them on a hammer strength shrug machine? I swapped these in, when i was dealing with some back issues, with success.

I found that without having a partner standing on the end of the bar, the back flies up after a certain weight. Which is why I do the Smith-Barbell, One Arm row.

 

[metroba]

What about putting a heavy db on the end?

 

[VolcomX311]

PRIME and DC would be a match made in heaven. It's heavily strength favoring supplement, with a heavily strength favoring program. That's what you call strength on strength violence.

 

[VolcomX311]

What about putting a heavy db on the end?

I see what you're saying, but that would only effectively work if the Db self adjusts and properly displaces its weight as the bar slightly moves up & down. You can't beat those little ground BB gadgets or a person's foot.

 

[metroba]

PRIME and DC would be a match made in heaven. It's heavily strength favoring supplement, with a heavily strength favoring program. That's what you call strength on strength violence.

My thoughts exactly. I cant even begin to tell you the differences Im seeing in just 4 days of DC+Prime. So bummed I have to wait another week before continuing :frustrate

 

[metroba]

I see what you're saying, but that would only effectively work if the Db self adjusts and properly displaces its weight as the bar slightly moves up & down. You can't beat those little ground BB gadgets or a person's foot.

True. well when it gets to the point to where I need to use this exercise. Ill just ask to borrow someones foot.

 

[VolcomX311]

I've seen the corner method used (solo) for up to 2 plates, but I've only used the corner BB method for T-rows, where I start at 3 plates and move up to 6 plates. I think around 3 plates that BB end comes flying up.

 

[metroba]

You Tbar 6 plates?! Nice!

 

[EasyEJL]

i'm starting back up tomorrow instead of friday btw