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PH Ban Imminent

TheDarkHalf

TheDarkHalf

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Tren and Epi are on this list.....i'm not familiar with some of the nomenclatures of those other compounds. Can anyone enlighten us as to what else will be disappearing?
 
AH-89-Xtreme: 5α-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole-3-one-17β-ol-THP-ether, marketed as “similar to Stanozolol”

ESTRO Xtreme: 4-hydroxyandrostenedione (4-OHA) = formestane

MMA-3 Xtreme: Androsta-1,4-dien-3,17-dione, marketed as “similar to Boldenone (Equipoise)” = Bold by Iforce

VNS-9 Xtreme: 17α-methyl-4-chloro-androsta-1,4-diene-3β,17β-diol, marketed as “similar to Turinabol” = Hdrol

TT-40-Xtreme: 1-androsterone, marketed as “very similar to 1-Testosterone” and “converts to 1-Testosterone” = 1-Dhea??
 
Oh Formestane, oh Formestane, how I would love thee to be saved... but it will not.
I will not give too many more hints.
 
lennoxchi said:
it's a steroid.......what did you think was going to happen. just cause it's an AI that it wouldn't get screwed with? that's allright, we've got plenty of research chems.....
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Thats news to me... I did not know that... now I'm not surprised anymore... Thats too bad!
 
Delta Force said:
Thats news to me... I did not know that... now I'm not surprised anymore... Thats too bad!
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It is steroidal by nature, though not exactly a steroid as we use the term today.

xx Zues xx said:
Will this be an international ban or what?
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Its a U.S. law so....i doubt it counts as international. THOUGH a few countries always brown nose and follow our laws.

lennoxchi said:
it's a steroid.......what did you think was going to happen. just cause it's an AI that it wouldn't get screwed with? that's allright, we've got plenty of research chems.....
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Considering how cheap bulk powder is... Transdermal is the best way for it IMO >.>
 
GodofWine said:
Can I freeze TD Formastane?
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Uh not too sure, but if I were you I would think bulk powder formestane could be stored like that in a vacuum seal for quite some time. Not sure on its ability to oxidize/other reactions though.

And then its quite easy to make into a transdermal. My TD form is homebrew.
 
I was just minding my own business walking around teh gym and my local steroid dealer was flipping through a Ferrari brochure..
 
lennoxchi said:
FDA only has jurisdiction in the US. hence the federal in FDA. but since most ph/ps are made here......
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no they aren't, most of them are imported from chinese manufacturers. Heck dymethazine is a resurrection of a 1960s pharmaceutical from Italy. Only a few things are really US sourced.
 
dave12 said:
I was just minding my own business walking around teh gym and my local steroid dealer was flipping through a Ferrari brochure..
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Ive actually been tempted in this time of joblessness to flip some stuff...Alas, I have a career to worry about, I will stick to small amounts for personal use.
 
EasyEJL said:
no they aren't, most of them are imported from chinese manufacturers. Heck dymethazine is a resurrection of a 1960s pharmaceutical from Italy. Only a few things are really US sourced.
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How will this affect PH availability in Europe or more specifically the UK?
 
Really it shouldn't have any effect outside the US. If CEL can continue to make $ selling outside of the US, they will continue selling outside the US.
 
from what i m hearing from the inside is that thiss stuff isnt being banned but the fda is using scare tactics by sending threating letters manufactures and warnings to consumers.technically alot of this stuff isnt illegal but the fda is pushing for them to be.
 
jambarino said:
from what i m hearing from the inside is that thiss stuff isnt being banned but the fda is using scare tactics by sending threating letters manufactures and warnings to consumers.technically alot of this stuff isnt illegal but the fda is pushing for them to be.
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uh...thats a long way of wording "imminent Ban"
 
Zero V said:
uh...thats a long way of wording "imminent Ban"
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thanks smartass.a ban isnt necessarily imminent.there are no guarntees that they will.its all hearsay and rumors.i'll believe it when they are banned.last year they was a million rumors tren and bold were being banned.even a letter being posted everywhere that was from the fda but nothing came of it.it seems more serious this time but im still skeptical.
 
jambarino said:
technically alot of this stuff isnt illegal but the fda is pushing for them to be.
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Umm actually all of it is basically non-legal. its all being sold as "dietary supplements" which doesn't require prior FDA approval for. But a manufacturer of a dietary supplement has to be able to prove how their product is an actual dietary supplement - something sourced from food in nature, even if its concentrated. Well, basically none of the current generation of products really fall into that category as they are all lab-made. So these are all basically prescription drugs that haven't gotten fda approval yet and so aren't legal to sell.

What the FDA letters are is "Please explain how these items qualify as dietary supplements under the DSHEA"
 
EasyEJL said:
Umm actually all of it is basically non-legal. its all being sold as "dietary supplements" which doesn't require prior FDA approval for. But a manufacturer of a dietary supplement has to be able to prove how their product is an actual dietary supplement - something sourced from food in nature, even if its concentrated. Well, basically none of the current generation of products really fall into that category as they are all lab-made. So these are all basically prescription drugs that haven't gotten fda approval yet and so aren't legal to sell.

What the FDA letters are is "Please explain how these items qualify as dietary supplements under the DSHEA"
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so is non-legal and illegal the same?just asking.because its not approved by the fda its illegal.if the fda doesnt test then how is it automatically illegal.who does th manufacturer have to prove it to if fda testing is required?not trying to be a **** just asking questions.
 
jambarino said:
so is non-legal and illegal the same?just asking.because its not approved by the fda its illegal.if the fda doesnt test then how is it automatically illegal.who does th manufacturer have to prove it to if fda testing is required?
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yeah, non-legal is basically the same as illegal, but the idea is that given the way the DSHEA is worded, someone can sell something without any criminal reprucussions until the FDA asks them to prove the natural basis for the product. Then if for some crazy ass reason they continue to sell the product the FDA can criminally charge them, but otherwise all the FDA can do is get them to stop selling it, or any other product with that ingredient in it. Where something that is illegal (like a specifically banned product like 4ad) would carry criminal charges immediately if the FDA found you selling it.

So theres sort of a difference, mostly in what your liability is for doing it.
 
So are we talking ALL phs then, or just the ones on that list?

I dont see phera or superdrol on there...

On a completely unrelated note, how long would most of these compounds last if never opened in their original packaging and sealed in a vacuum bag?
 
phera is on the list of items that were to be banned in 08, and basically that ruling covering it, Bold and "tren" could go into effect at any time.

probably effective at least 4-5 years, and just would slowly loose potency
 
EasyEJL said:
phera is on the list of items that were to be banned in 08, and basically that ruling covering it, Bold and "tren" could go into effect at any time.

probably effective at least 4-5 years, and just would slowly loose potency
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so after 4-5 years they'd be duds or after 4-5 years they'd start to lose potency?
 
dave12 said:
I was just minding my own business walking around teh gym and my local steroid dealer was flipping through a Ferrari brochure..
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TRHIS IS SOME TUREST **** I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING WHY HASNT ANY1 ELSE NOTICED THIS OMFG THIS IS SOOOOOO CLASSIC NO ****ING WAY
 
jay21 said:
TRHIS IS SOME TUREST **** I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING WHY HASNT ANY1 ELSE NOTICED THIS OMFG THIS IS SOOOOOO CLASSIC NO ****ING WAY
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That sh*t had me rolling earlier.

On another note..just found Xtreme Tren for 150 at one place..:wtf:

That's dumb
 
what if u have posession of this stuff but arent planning on using it soon? Would it count as a possesion charge of illegal substances? cause i got a cycle coming up and 2 un-opened bottles of h-drol and 1 of m-drol that im not planning on using anytime soon, and if im going to get busted for having this stuff i think im going to trade it in for some more test e.... at least a conviction would be worth it then.....well not really but u get my point...
 
IF it does in fact become illegal, then without a prescription, posession of the said compounds would be illegal. However unless you plan on getting your house raided sometime soon by FDA I wouldn't particualrly worry about a possession charge.
 
jay21 said:
TRHIS IS SOME TUREST **** I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING WHY HASNT ANY1 ELSE NOTICED THIS OMFG THIS IS SOOOOOO CLASSIC NO ****ING WAY
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MrBigPR said:
That sh*t had me rolling earlier.

On another note..just found Xtreme Tren for 150 at one place..:wtf:

That's dumb
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I was just trying to make the point that markets will always find a way to fill a consumer demand. There's clearly demand here plenty of people will be willing to meet it and they wont be as scrupulous as RPN and CEL.
 
wilsmash4food said:
i saw epi on the list..obviously RPN and Primaforce are having trouble with it...but I found one site that was selling a slightly alterted (but still technicly the same) epi for super cheap. 120 caps for 25 bucks. this confused me. i bought 3. this also makes me wonder, why not just throw a little milk thistle or some other X herbal sup in the capsule? couldnt doing that qual it as legal? justa thought.
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Where?????
 
jay21 said:
TRHIS IS SOME TUREST **** I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING WHY HASNT ANY1 ELSE NOTICED THIS OMFG THIS IS SOOOOOO CLASSIC NO ****ING WAY
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Just what I said to a friend once i read this, make local guys pockets bigger. He stated they going off of some DEA law and not a real fda law and seemed to be a waste of time and money by the idiot from the FDA pushing it and won't really have any effect. So, we shall see I guess.
 
slacker86 said:
what if u have posession of this stuff but arent planning on using it soon? Would it count as a possesion charge of illegal substances? cause i got a cycle coming up and 2 un-opened bottles of h-drol and 1 of m-drol that im not planning on using anytime soon, and if im going to get busted for having this stuff i think im going to trade it in for some more test e.... at least a conviction would be worth it then.....well not really but u get my point...
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Don't sweat it man like someone else said, just keep your **** in your house and as long as you don't give the DEA a reason to kick your door in then you'll be fine.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
Don't sweat it man like someone else said, just keep your **** in your house and as long as you don't give the DEA a reason to kick your door in then you'll be fine.
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Indeed. And they cant without a warrant which needs to be obtained through reasonable cause(well that's how its SUPPOSED to go but we know things dont always work as they should). And being Swole is not one of em. So keep it in your house, dont tote em around(put the caps in carrying cases to go) and also when you throw away your bottles, destroy the labels. Because your trash is public property.

Just stand outside and take a lighter to the label while rotating it, it burns off pretty fast.
 
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