Best sleep aid that wont negativly impact hormone levels

This is just off the top of my head, but remember reading that melatonin will actually boost test levels. I'm not sure about any other hormone related effects it may have.
 
Im going to vote for powerfull aka "L-dopa". This always gives me great sleep. Plus it has been shown to increase your hormone levels while using it.
 
Buffgammaman said:
What's the best sleep aid that wont negativly impact hormone levels? Any suggestions?
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* Melatonin
* GABA
* L-Dopa products
* Growth Hormone boosters

Personally I have found Lipotrophin-PM an excellent "sleep aid" re deep and restful sleep. IGF-2 has also been great re recovery and sleep.


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Negatively affect hormone levels? Don't know any of those that actually negatively affect them, its usually the other way around haha

I personally love Hyperdrol X2 (2 caps) and PowerFULL(2-3 caps) before bedtime. This is a great test and gh boosting bedtime stack that will definitely give you a deep sleep!
 
EasyEJL said:
pssst, it only counts as sex if there is someone else involved. just fyi ;)
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ROFL! Nice.

I hit the wife lottery, honestly. Smoking hot asian with a roaring libido; and she not only deals with my quirks, but loves them (not to brag or anything, teehee :lick:).
 
Wow I like alot of these sugestions not only will they help me sleep with out hurting the test but thel'll boost the gh as well. One thing tho I thought melatonin hurt test levels?
 
Buffgammaman said:
Wow I like alot of these sugestions not only will they help me sleep with out hurting the test but thel'll boost the gh as well. One thing tho I thought melatonin hurt test levels?
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Melatonin actually ELEVATES testosterone levels. However, studies have shown that it can decrease sperm count; the cause for this is unknown, but has been hypothesized as being because of the higher testosterone levels.

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Guejsn said:
Melatonin actually ELEVATES testosterone levels. However, studies have shown that it can decrease sperm count; the cause for this is unknown, but has been hypothesized as being because of the higher testosterone levels.

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Rosie, is the decrease sperm count temporary or permanent? I am assuming temporary.

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I liked Bulletproof by Muscle Pharm. Gave me some good deep sleep...
 
Kava-kava - but controv. because of liver impact.
Valarian is fabled. I had rapid tolerance.
Passion flower/ lemon balm
GABOB is better than GABBA
Theanine

If that lot doesn't work ... big hammer?
 
actual sleep-aid products that I have tried and work:

somnidren gh (actually knows me out, let it sit under tongue for immediate effect)
abyss
Knockout
Nocturnabol (left me fuzzy in the mornings)
 
rxp1997 said:
Nocturnabol (left me fuzzy in the mornings)
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I forgot that one, i'll second that as a choice. What was funny was when I got it I read the ingredients and said "theres no way that amount will work, I should probably take 3" but just took 1 and was zonked out. Went thru the whole box at 1 a nite, and it was quite nice
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Rosie, is the decrease sperm count temporary or permanent? I am assuming temporary.

-tex
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Buffgammaman said:
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The decrease in sperm count is only in SOME males (so not all) and it is TEMPORARY (but can cause temporary infertility during that time). The period of this "temporary" will differ between individuals, since melatonin has shown to keep testosterone levels elevated for up to 6 months after stopping usage.
 
for thos that do not think melatonin decreases testosterone they should read this

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Not saying you guys are liers but it does seem like there is conflicting information about this.
 
so no one really knows if melatonin raises or lowers your test then? we got one thing saying it raises it and that causes a lowering of FSH thus lowering sperm count and another saying it raises oxytocin which in turn lowers LH and fsh thus lowering both sperm count and testosterone. big delema here I'm definetly not taking this stuff until I know.
 
Anybody looking for a real good sleep aid, check out Total Force1 by Force of Green Labs, its a trandsermal delivery that provides legit delivery.
 
andrew732 said:
Anybody looking for a real good sleep aid, check out Total Force1 by Force of Green Labs, its a trandsermal delivery that provides legit delivery.
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I have some now... I will try it alone, been mixing too many things to know what is going on in my body. The foamy delivery is cool too because I HAAAATE runny transdermals

How many pumps do you use?

Mine is direct from the company as a sample, it doesnt have a label
 
Muscle Pharm Bullet proof!!! Is the only way to go!!! Use once and you understand!!!
 
Sometimes I take CL REDuctionPM (GABA) with decent results. Anybody know how good old Benedryl affects test levels? It's always helped put me to sleep, too.
 
Buffgammaman said:
so no one really knows if melatonin raises or lowers your test then? we got one thing saying it raises it and that causes a lowering of FSH thus lowering sperm count and another saying it raises oxytocin which in turn lowers LH and fsh thus lowering both sperm count and testosterone. big delema here I'm definetly not taking this stuff until I know.
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Melatonin is a fairly new supplement and not that well researched yet. Yes, there are some conflicting results. However, as stated not EVERYone experiences these things. Really, if you were going to use it, you would find out; but until you do you wouldn't know how your body would respond to it.

It does help with sleep, though.


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