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BigKrabbe

BigKrabbe

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So since I started training seriously a few years ago, and kicked some other habits I have pretty much stopped drinking except for maybe once a month or so. I have always just felt like it would hinder me in the gym, and so on. However, jesus I feel ****ing lame, and it's not that I don't enjoy drinking or anything. I just see pretty much everyone I know going out all the time, drinking, and not having it greatly effect them in anyway...so what the hell?
 
Everything in moderation I say...

But do you *have* to drink when you go out?

Honestly, I drink whenever I go out, usually 4-5 nights a week. I'm not doing professional bodybuilding though, just trying to stay in shape and continue to put on muscle and get a bit stronger.

All things in moderation though... Getting so wasted every day that you neglect hitting the gym would be a bad idea.
 
I doubt pounding down a bottle of tequila on a friday night will ruin your workouts for the week.....
 
All my friends go out thurs/fri/sat I rarely go with them and if i do, I only have a beer or two.

I rather kick back on my deck on a nice summer day and have a cold one :D
 
Moderation is key, high doses of alcohol will obviously hinder anything related to bodybuilding. As far as your goals and their importance in your life thats just personal. There will come a point in your training where you will have to decide on drinking or not to to get to the next level.
I dont drink when i go out and i feel lame for about 2 hours, then i realize when im looking at all the drunks around that i dont feel that bad for myself anymore, cause in comparison im doing much better (ie not on a bar floor).
It also has a lot to do with what supplementation you are taking, Ph/AAS are a def no drinking thing, other things arent as bad.
 
These guys have got it right ^^^ However, I've never needed alcohol to enjoy my night out, I'm a naturally sociable person, so the 'mellowing' effect of alcohol does nothing for me and I hate feeling tipsy (disorientation is a horrible feeling).

For me, going T Total was the best decision I ever made :)
 
I like to go out after work and have a few, or on the golf course.
I really don't see a prob in that.

However drinking to the point of not knowing how the hell you woke up next to a 450 pounder with a thicker mustache then you have, or a truck tire in your shower (My mom was pissed about that one)
That is over doing it.
Moderation is everything.

JP.
 
My group of friend party hard so when I stopped drinking, I caught nothing but **** for it until I put on about 20-30lbs while they were still trying to see abs.
 
I dont drink either, when I go out and thats rare due to work and school I always opt for water with lemon, I CAN be social and friendly when I want to be, ....BUT I agree with the moderation thing.............


TC
 
toughchick401 said:
I dont drink either, when I go out and thats rare due to work and school I always opt for water with lemon, I CAN be social and friendly when I want to be, ....BUT I agree with the moderation thing.............


TC
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It does irritate me at times how many social events are centered around drinking, it's possibly the only recreational drug that is unanimously acceptable by everyone.

I mean, no one I know would dare pressure anyone to smoke tobacco (these days) but when it comes to alcohol it seems to have its own set of rules...

I tend to place all drugs under the same category, if someone drinks that's fine with me (I've done it and paid for it at times) but they're no different in my eyes than someone who smokes marijuana, tobacco or takes other recreational drugs, I don't stereotype in that respect, it's not fair.
 
haha first post, had to be bout alcohol. i definately dont think that alcohol consumption is bad, but that is coming from a 20 year old. i know that ive done a good bit of drinking and probably call alot of it binge drinking lol. i havnt done that though for a good while though since ive been in iraq, and that kinda puts a stop to that for the most part. i definately have noticed a difference since i stopped drinking as much. ive been hitting the gym a good bit here as much as i can, n have noticed a big difference compared to what i was doin while drinking. i definately agree with the drinking in moderation as far as my experience counts, but dont forget that you only got one life to have fun, and that if alcohol helps that experience then so be it.

a good way to limit calories while drinking...

shots of cabo wabo, with lime n salt
thats pretty much all you need lol, i love beer but you obviously gotta ingest more than that to get drunk (if thats your goal)
 
hahahahahaahah, speaking from experience i see. :)

jp17815 said:
I like to go out after work and have a few, or on the golf course.
I really don't see a prob in that.

However drinking to the point of not knowing how the hell you woke up next to a 450 pounder with a thicker mustache then you have, or a truck tire in your shower (My mom was pissed about that one)
That is over doing it.
Moderation is everything.

JP.
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Just make sure if you do drink not to work out that day before you drink. I see too many people do this which is doing more bad than good. When you get home from drinking get a multi-vitamin and ALOT of water along with a good source of protein before you goto sleep. Honestly missing a workout or two is going to do less damage to you than missing out on spending time with friends.

Another thing you might want to try is taking a pre-workout supplement before you workout(jack3d, , , ).. I've noticed that if I do this and just have a drink or 2 i'll feel pretty euphoric. Instead of having to drink 10-15.

Just my suggestions, hope I helped.
 
so hypatheticaly i shouldn't drink after i workout or vice versa?
n if i do drink after working out i should drink a protein shake n the multi vitamin? n i thnk the lots of water is usually obvious lol especially after u wake up
 
Drinking water while you drink alcohol is honestly the best, althought it's tough sometimes. Drink the shake (W/Water unless you want to **** your pants all night) to try avoid as much catabolism as possible. The multi-vitamin is needed because when you drink it depletes your vitamin stores in your body and you need to get these back up in order to allow your body to run efficiently again as soon as possible. When you wake up the following morning i'd do the same again along with a BIG protein/carb filled meal. The whole point is to get your body back running smoothly again as soon as possible after you just changed its normal cycle.
 
Of all the things I used to intake(such as alchohol) No matter how much I drink, never ever have I had a hangover or been sick the next day.....I got me some good strong german blood and constitution ^.^

I do highly recommend after a night of drinking, keep a bottle of water with you, down it before you crash for the night. You will wake up and have one of them amazing pisses, and then feel pretty good.

Not that I am sure how my constitution is anymore :(
 
haha well ill try the protein shake tonight lol, i dont got a multi vitamin yet caus im retarded but i got vitamin c n zma which ill take before i go to bed lol, idk if the water will come till tomarow but ill definately keep that in mind lol. i thnk im usually good wit the hangovers its just when i wake up half drunk that sucks lol but yea the water prolly the most important thing
 
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cav19delite said:
shots of cabo wabo, with lime n salt
thats pretty much all you need lol
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What's cabo wabo?


h0other said:
Just make sure if you do drink not to work out that day before you drink. I see too many people do this which is doing more bad than good.
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I've never heard this, why is it bad to work out on a day when you know you'll be going out to drink later that night? Why would it be worse than not working out at all?


I always make sure to keep water on hand when drinking, it really helps fight hangovers. Usually you end up falling asleep before you can drink as much as you need though! I'll definitely try the multivitamin recommendation and down a centrum after getting home.
 
Because when you work out, your body has to repair those muscles. It does the majority of this the night of the workout. If your body has alcohol in it it will be working to get the alcohol out of it instead of reparing those muscles. When you have broke down muscles that are not able to be repaired it doesn't sound like a good thing to me. Thus they most likely will repair weaker than before the workout.
 
haha what is cabo wabo? lol. i thought it was somthin a lot of people knew, my bad. its a really high quality tequila as far as im concerned that tastes friggin amazing. ive had their 2nd best stuff which was pretty amazing, i couldn't tell u the name of it, but it is definately better than patron silver in my opinion. sammy hagar is the owner of the company. my point was i guess was that shots are usually better than beer lol. i guess i could ask another question; if u mix or chase ur shots what do u use?
 
Alright, thanks for all of your input. That's pretty much what I was thinking everything in moderation. I love bodybuilding/powerlifting, but want to have some fun too!
 
I would agree that drinking after a day of lifting would be detrimental to gains. For one it dehydrates you. Also I am sure it probably messes up your body in quite a few ways sleep wise, probably not the best environment for GH release.
 
Thanks for the info guys. Yeah, never had heard of cabo wabo before now... mainly because I'm not a big Tequila drinker (yet! lol). Only tequila i've taken shots of is Patron, Jose Cuervo, and some awful cheap stuff called Montezuma...
 
buuzer0 said:
Thanks for the info guys. Yeah, never had heard of cabo wabo before now... mainly because I'm not a big Tequila drinker (yet! lol). Only tequila i've taken shots of is Patron, Jose Cuervo, and some awful cheap stuff called Montezuma...
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Jose Cuervo and a beautiful woman are all a man would need...
 
I've been sober now almost a year. At first it was extremely difficult to feel comfortable around people in any setting,.. because I was used to having something in me. But as time went on, I became more comfortable. The things I used to do with alcohol, such as dancing, playing pool, bowling,.. whatever, are now more enjoyable to me than before. There are so many activities a person can do,.. and not drink. In addition, I know I'm coming home, and safe at that. I can make sure others are safe, which is a good feeling. And I'm not waking up next to someone I would regret!!!
 
bonscott said:
I've been sober now almost a year. At first it was extremely difficult to feel comfortable around people in any setting,.. because I was used to having something in me. But as time went on, I became more comfortable. The things I used to do with alcohol, such as dancing, playing pool, bowling,.. whatever, are now more enjoyable to me than before. There are so many activities a person can do,.. and not drink. In addition, I know I'm coming home, and safe at that. I can make sure others are safe, which is a good feeling. And I'm not waking up next to someone I would regret!!!
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good move, thats how I became the "caretaker" fellow.....sucks sometimes though man. With my friends, my duties are never over. lol Congrats man on a year of being sober! Stay strong in your desires!
 
Thank you gentlemen,.. and I use that term loosely!lol,.. jk!!!
 
When I'm training for competition I abstain. Drinking screws up your metabolic process for a few days and when I'm working that hard I don't see why I should toss it out the window. HOWEVER, when I come off a show and I have to shake my system up before heading back into contest prep then I enjoy a cocktail or some wine but I have found that when I am working out that hard and have been clean for an extended period of time my metabolism is running so fast that catching a buzz is useless and unless I'm drinking something that compliments my meal it's a huge waste of time and an intake of empty calories. It was wholly frustrating the last time I drank. So yeah, if you are going for a serious goal don't drink. If you are just keeping in shape then indulging once a month won't hurt you but you'll probably see more progress if you abstain completely.
 
these guys pretty much said it. I drink like 4-5 nights a week when i'm off season / off cycle / at least a month after PCT but its not getting wasted like in college. I'll have a glass of wine or two with my wife or a 2-3 beers with my buddies. Never get past the legal limit which means I can be the driver. I mean i'm married now but when i was single i always say the guys who weren't sloppy drunk getting the chicks.
 
You only live once, the way you want to live your life is up to you. I'm a business major and a big concept of it is opportunity cost. Which means you have to give up one thing to have another and is it worth it?
 
CrazyChemist said:
these guys pretty much said it. I drink like 4-5 nights a week when i'm off season / off cycle / at least a month after PCT but its not getting wasted like in college. I'll have a glass of wine or two with my wife or a 2-3 beers with my buddies. Never get past the legal limit which means I can be the driver. I mean i'm married now but when i was single i always say the guys who weren't sloppy drunk getting the chicks.
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Drink till your warm inside, not until you cant walk. about 6 rounds of jose cuervo used to warm me up. Wow thats been forever since I touched that stuff
 
buuzer0 said:
This.

It's really annoying when you have friends who don't understand that concept though!
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Tell me about it :rolleyes: however if they're really your friends and not just acquaintances then they should understand and respect your decision.
 
UKStrength said:
Tell me about it :rolleyes: however if they're really your friends and not just acquaintances then they should understand and respect your decision.
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Yeah. It's nuts, when I'm trying to have a light-drinking night, I somehow get inundated with free drinks and/or shots. And it just doesn't seem right to turn down a free drink...:trink26:
 
buuzer0 said:
Yeah. It's nuts, when I'm trying to have a light-drinking night, I somehow get inundated with free drinks and/or shots. And it just doesn't seem right to turn down a free drink...:trink26:
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Thats the part where u find a girl and look like the man hahahaha
 
ppl overstate the negative effects of alcohol on bodybuilding so much

i think 1-2x a week and get the same results as a i when i go an extended time not drinking. usually i only drink 1x a week tho and IMO taht is fine.

also i ahve great workouts after nights i drink
 
The fact of the matter is, two drinks a day is actually good for you. Look at the European countries that have wine with meals. The populations live longer and have less heart disease in these places. That's any alcohol, the key is they say more then two a day takes on a negative effect. Two a day,.. that's the meaning of moderation.
 
bonscott said:
The fact of the matter is, two drinks a day is actually good for you. Look at the European countries that have wine with meals. The populations live longer and have less heart disease in these places. That's any alcohol, the key is they say more then two a day takes on a negative effect. Two a day,.. that's the meaning of moderation.
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I think thats been revised. I dont think its actually the alcohol itself that is beneficial but rather the components inside of it (ie the anti-oxidants within red wine not the actual alcohol itself). Alcohol itself is not good in any shape form or way, they contain empty calories (weight gain), increase triglycerides, are detrimental to the lipid profile, it also increases chances of cancer. The amount recomended for a beer is 10oz 4oz of wine 1.5oz of 80-proof liquor and 1oz of liquor 100 proof. The American Heart Association also suggests that there are guidlines for those who already drink and if someone does not drink normally NOT to start. They are suggesting moderation to potentially gain some sort of benefit in a habit that is otherwise detrimental. And the same benefits seen by just eating the grapes in which are used to produce wine gave the same results without any alcohol intake at all.

As far as european countries being healthier in general thats true, but mostly that is attributed to diet, their "average" person consumes way less calories and more beneficial foods as well as a better balanced diet. The U.S, lead the world in obesity especially within children and obesity is a common reason for the hypertension, stroke, cancer, myocardial infarction, COPD, and various other respiratory and cardiac diseases. its not the wine with the meal making the difference, its the fact the meal is nutritional, well balanced and typically isnt followed by the phrase "do you want fries with that".

Now as far as weightlifting and bodybuilding in general. Nutrition should be good, sometimes stacked in a certain way depending on cut/bulk/maintenance. But there is no overwhelming reason why alcohol would actually enhance any of these activities. The only reason for wine would be to get the anti-oxidant effects, and that can be attained through just eating grapes.

Weather you want to drink or not is up to the individual, but if health is the reason for drinking there are better ways to attain that. I also personally feel that my gains from not drinking outweigh my gains when i was drinking.

I am not saying that 2 drinks a year will kill you or destroy all your progress, I am simply stating that alcohol itself is in no way beneficial.
 
drink till u cant feel ur face and stop being a b!tch
 
slacker86 said:
I think thats been revised. I dont think its actually the alcohol itself that is beneficial but rather the components inside of it (ie the anti-oxidants within red wine not the actual alcohol itself). Alcohol itself is not good in any shape form or way, they contain empty calories (weight gain), increase triglycerides, are detrimental to the lipid profile, it also increases chances of cancer. The amount recomended for a beer is 10oz 4oz of wine 1.5oz of 80-proof liquor and 1oz of liquor 100 proof. The American Heart Association also suggests that there are guidlines for those who already drink and if someone does not drink normally NOT to start. They are suggesting moderation to potentially gain some sort of benefit in a habit that is otherwise detrimental. And the same benefits seen by just eating the grapes in which are used to produce wine gave the same results without any alcohol intake at all.

As far as european countries being healthier in general thats true, but mostly that is attributed to diet, their "average" person consumes way less calories and more beneficial foods as well as a better balanced diet. The U.S, lead the world in obesity especially within children and obesity is a common reason for the hypertension, stroke, cancer, myocardial infarction, COPD, and various other respiratory and cardiac diseases. its not the wine with the meal making the difference, its the fact the meal is nutritional, well balanced and typically isnt followed by the phrase "do you want fries with that".

Now as far as weightlifting and bodybuilding in general. Nutrition should be good, sometimes stacked in a certain way depending on cut/bulk/maintenance. But there is no overwhelming reason why alcohol would actually enhance any of these activities. The only reason for wine would be to get the anti-oxidant effects, and that can be attained through just eating grapes.

Weather you want to drink or not is up to the individual, but if health is the reason for drinking there are better ways to attain that. I also personally feel that my gains from not drinking outweigh my gains when i was drinking.

I am not saying that 2 drinks a year will kill you or destroy all your progress, I am simply stating that alcohol itself is in no way beneficial.
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Good posting,.. you obviously put some thought into it.
 
jp17815 said:
Or until you wake up next to a 400 lb er.
More then once.

That will scare you sober.

LOL.

JP.
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Well more then once.....

It happens.

Word to the wise,
If the woman you wake up next too is more then you can bench you went too far.

JP.
 
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