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A crazy new discovery by LG Sciences

jsp0785 said:
yes but also many companies have been known for or caught putting illegal supps not to mention the legality of a lot of pro hormones and designer roids are only legal because they haven't been found out about yet.
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come on-i have read your posts before and know you are an intelligent enough person to know the difference between a company either knowingly or unwittingly having unlisted illegal stuff in their products and a chem site selling what we all know are illegal-without a script chemicals. btw how the hell are you going to know how much tamoxifen is in a bottle or if it even is tamoxifen? i would much rather take my chances on a bottle of atd actually being 25mg per cap. btw what if demand is high for a certain chem but raws are expensive or hard to get, what if i cut the active in half like a street dealer and make some quick bucks? your chances are just as good to get quality stuff from a street corner dealer as it is with chem sites.
 
thebigt said:
come on-i have read your posts before and know you are an intelligent enough person to know the difference between a company either knowingly or unwittingly having unlisted illegal stuff in their products and a chem site selling what we all know are illegal-without a script chemicals. btw how the hell are you going to know how much tamoxifen is in a bottle or if it even is tamoxifen? i would much rather take my chances on a bottle of atd actually being 25mg per cap. btw what if demand is high for a certain chem but raws are expensive or hard to get, what if i cut the active in half like a street dealer and make some quick bucks? your chances are just as good to get quality stuff from a street corner dealer as it is with chem sites.
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no i know. i'm just saying some companies put illegal things in their supps without people knowing
 
subweevil said:
Man, I'd say get a clue, but you'd more than likely post some crap about how i didn't explain what a clue was, or better yet, asking how to get a clue, or perhaps not responding quickly enough about what a clue is and how to acquire one. Seriously, everything has already been answered. Getting real tired of logging in here to read stuff and having a nice read interrupted by people like you, posting crap like this.
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ok those last 2 comments were because of somebody else saying crap first. why don't u bitch at them
 
Research chems are VERY tough to dose and do you even know that they are "real". There was a good post on bb.com from a very experienced guy who started getting some gyno and used a research chem that didn't do anything. He went to the Dr. got a prescription and the problem vanished... explain that one?

Research chems suffer from the same fate that everything bought from China does, it is just too often that the manufacturer pays for real stuff and gets white powder. We have all of our materials scanned in the US by our manufacturer (soon in house too) and we get a lot of bunk material that we have to reject. Do you think gray market Nolva is being tested via HPLC, IR or GMASS?

Someone find that thread for me...

Now with ATD, I believe anything over abot 20mg a day is really WAY too much. It binds in the brain, we know that and can cross react. Also, for anyone that is drug tested, it isn't an option since you will test positive for Boldenone. Steroidal AI's had their day, but that day is coming to an end, sadly. Look at the news on 6-OXO, how many people need to see the writing on the wall! Luckily, there are really good options left. Not everything needs to be steroidal, look at Letro and Arimidex, they are non-steroidal AI's that do a killer job. The problem with steroidal AI's is that they are just that...steroidal. It's not their fault, but they are always misclassified as "steroids". Look at the papers on 6-OXO, the Europeans classify them 6-OXO as an "anabolic steroid"

You don't want to drop estrogen too much, so not over dosing is key. Luckily, strong AI's are better because you need less of them to be effective!
 
Pretty interesting. ATD above 50mg dries me out like crazy, kills my libido and makes me pissy as hell, but I LOVE the look I have when I'm on it lol (bone dry). Interested to see how this turns out.
 
Working to make it a reality, right now to get it made would be too expensive and high priced, it takes a while to refine the process and make things affordable.

It is a new inhibitor similar to Arimidex, Letrozole and the other competitive AI's out there. ATD isn't really a good choice at high doses because it can lower libido and act as an androgen blocker. We always have used under 20mg per day of ATD since I think above that is WAY too high to be effective.
 
I was just about to ask, will this potentially be cheaper than other AIs out there being as that it doesnt need much to be as effective?
 
subbed for info, but before I try a stuff like that I have to see zilions of logs, estrogen depletion its a dangerous thing for a bodybuilder
 
Which is why a strong competitive inhibitor makes the most sense. Strong binder, but not suicide, similar to Letro, Arimidex etc...
 
jsp0785 said:
isn't a serm usually suggested because it helps with the lipid profile... is this product going to help with that too?
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Some SERMS do seem to have a positive effect on lipid profile, but certainly this isn't the pain purpose of them. Controlling out of control estrogen levels is more of a concern. Getting the hormonal functions of the body back to homeostasis.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Some SERMS do seem to have a positive effect on lipid profile, but certainly this isn't the pain purpose of them. Controlling out of control estrogen levels is more of a concern. Getting the hormonal functions of the body back to homeostasis.
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i know but many people suggest a serm because of that added benefit. i know u are supposed to take supps while on cycle and during pct to help with that but i don't think there's too much. just curious thanks for the response
 
Iron Lungz said:
I know that's right!
Eh, I hate Yohimbe (Yohimbine). My body just does not do well with it at all.
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sometimes it bothers me other times it doesn't. i took it one time and i don't know what happened but it basically look like my veins closed up and i was like shivering and freezing my ass off.
 
No, it's not a serm, a competitive aromatase inhibitor like Letro and Arimidex. Suicide inhibitors like ATD and Formestane are pretty old school...
 
We have a new complex and it should be something that has some serious benefits over current AI's

First, most AI's on the market are suicide inhibitors which are really a generation behind. Suicide inhibitors like ATD and Formestane are not the preferred method for aromatase inhibition any more. Arimidex, Letrozole and others that are being sold/prescribed are not suicidal, which means the industry should probably move away from them as well. These new class of AI's are not suicide which should really help keep estrogen low without seeing a rebound.
 
LegalGear said:
We have a new complex and it should be something that has some serious benefits over current AI's

First, most AI's on the market are suicide inhibitors which are really a generation behind. Suicide inhibitors like ATD and Formestane are not the preferred method for aromatase inhibition any more. Arimidex, Letrozole and others that are being sold/prescribed are not suicidal, which means the industry should probably move away from them as well. These new class of AI's are not suicide which should really help keep estrogen low without seeing a rebound.
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When might we see some testing onthis LG?
 
LegalGear said:
We have a new complex and it should be something that has some serious benefits over current AI's

First, most AI's on the market are suicide inhibitors which are really a generation behind. Suicide inhibitors like ATD and Formestane are not the preferred method for aromatase inhibition any more. Arimidex, Letrozole and others that are being sold/prescribed are not suicidal, which means the industry should probably move away from them as well. These new class of AI's are not suicide which should really help keep estrogen low without seeing a rebound.
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Interesting.

If it's not class 1 nor class 2 like you mentioned, then how does this thing work?

Subbed for more info!
 
I'm curious...waiting for some real info...

Cheers!:cheers:
 
It is an AI, similar to Arimidex. Very tight binding without being suicidal, so it should be a very good AI without the negatives of ATD (androgen receptor deactivation in the brain, loss of sex drive etc...)
 
this should be great, im assuming it will replace Formadrol Extreme, which I will miss, but this sounds to be even better than our current offering.

Between this and the ghrp-6 supp it looks like LG will become one of the major innovators in the industry for 09!
 
You sirs, have peaked my interest *raises an eyebrow*

I would like to see how well it can compete with arm, etc.

Something like this could work well with OTC PCT, and give us much easier options to try and avoid SERMS, considering they themselves are toxic as well. Which in all reality is not the best after a methyl PH. Then again, ur using a steroid so why should it matter.

How well do you think something like your new development would mix with something like Sustain and the TRT stack?
 
I doubt this will replace SERMs, it's an AI overall, if no one uses adex or letro solo for PCT, then, they wouldn't use this as well, it would be a good addition though!
 
I honestly can't believe that the underground "research" companies are still going. I would get the hell out of that if I were them, since with the new focus on the FDA and more feet on the street, selling viagra and clen seems like a very dangerous game...
 
I should have the sample of the new AI by the end of the month. It promises to be 4X more potent than Arimidex! We are going to match this with one more potent AI (alteration of a familiar product) and then add in a new testosterone analog (non-hormonal) that we have been working on...

This is going to be the new F-Drol product that will knock your socks off!
 
LegalGear said:
I should have the sample of the new AI by the end of the month. It promises to be 4X more potent than Arimidex! We are going to match this with one more potent AI (alteration of a familiar product) and then add in a new testosterone analog (non-hormonal) that we have been working on...

This is going to be the new F-Drol product that will knock your socks off!
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4x and it's legal? Holly molly! Glued to the thread! PM me and I will give you my addy to send some sample, LOL.
 
LegalGear said:
I should have the sample of the new AI by the end of the month. It promises to be 4X more potent than Arimidex! We are going to match this with one more potent AI (alteration of a familiar product) and then add in a new testosterone analog (non-hormonal) that we have been working on...

This is going to be the new F-Drol product that will knock your socks off!
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Thanks for the updates! This is sounding killer! Can't wait for the new F-drol either!!!! This going to be sublingual?
 
Yes, it will be a sublingual and is a totally new AI that no one has ever used before. If it is as good as on paper, it should be quite potent and very good compared to other AI's...
 
LegalGear said:
Yes, it will be a sublingual and is a totally new AI that no one has ever used before. If it is as good as on paper, it should be quite potent and very good compared to other AI's...
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ah nice work! So many things coming from LG lately!! Poor Seth!!
 
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