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sorry if this question has been asked before but i see that the reviews at nutraplanet say that best results are seen at higher doses such as 8 or 9 pils a day. So my question is how many doses should i do for max fat loss and also how farr spaced out?? You know since some fatburners are recommended to be taken 4-6 hours in between doses but with dcp does this apply??? Also, can this be taken close to bed or at bed time?? I even heard people taking 1 pill at bed??
Thanks for any help in advance.
 
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sorry if this question has been asked before but i see that the reviews at nutraplanet say that best results are seen at higher doses such as 8 or 9 pils a day. So my question is how many doses should i do for max fat loss and also how farr spaced out?? You know since some fatburners are recommended to be taken 4-6 hours in between doses but with dcp does this apply??? Also, can this be taken close to bed or at bed time?? I even heard people taking 1 pill at bed??
Thanks for any help in advance.
For my experience, and others, best results are seen with the following dosage scheme:

2 tablets morning
3 tablets preworkout
2 tablets dinner (or swap last two if you work out in the evening)
1 tablet immediately before bed.


As an update to shipping, I received confirmation today that shipment was sent to Nutra.

Once again I find myself in a situation of having to offer a discount to compensate for the massive delay. Look for a decent sale coming from Nutra.
 
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im currently on STOKED/ACTIVATE X /LEAN X week 3 now gonna run that for 5 more weeks i orderd DCP and should arrive soon. My question can I add this to my current stack and if so how would the dosage look like ?

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im currently on STOKED/ACTIVATE X /LEAN X week 3 now gonna run that for 5 more weeks i orderd DCP and should arrive soon. My question can I add this to my current stack and if so how would the dosage look like ?

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That would be a pretty sick stack.

You can run DCP per label recommendation, since it is non-stimulating. It will only increase the rate of fatloss.
 
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Any idea when dcp will be in stock at NP? I was looking today to get that and levi r stack and its out of stock
 
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Any idea when dcp will be in stock at NP? I was looking today to get that and levi r stack and its out of stock
It was shipped (verified) last monday. Given the holiday, it SHOULD be there this Monday.
 
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Ok thx dsade hopefully its still in stock when i can order
 
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Ok thx dsade hopefully its still in stock when i can order
It won't last long...I believe Nutra is also planning on tossing up a DCP sale to go along with the new stock.

I already have another run in progress, but the way my production company works we're looking at another 8-9 weeks delay.
 
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It won't last long...I believe Nutra is also planning on tossing up a DCP sale to go along with the new stock.

I already have another run in progress, but the way my production company works we're looking at another 8-9 weeks delay.
Ouch, I'll be sure to quote that delay when telling people to stock up big on the DCP.
 
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Ouch, I'll be sure to quote that delay when telling people to stock up big on the DCP.
Do you know what the worst part is? I had to use this whole run to replenish stocks.

I'm going to have to end up buying my own DCP back from Nutra to use for my Arnold cut.
 
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Just curious, I got my DCP today and it's in a clear bottle with a red label, and the pills are actually 'tabs', I recall the last DCP I got was in an all white bottle with a yellow label and they were in huge capsules....is this one current? I would assume so...
 
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Just curious, I got my DCP today and it's in a clear bottle with a red label, and the pills are actually 'tabs', I recall the last DCP I got was in an all white bottle with a yellow label and they were in huge capsules....is this one current? I would assume so...
It's been a while since you bought DCP, hasn't it? :)

We switched to the red and white label a year and a half ago, and switched to the tablets about 6 months ago.

They are way easier to deal with.
 
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It's been a while since you bought DCP, hasn't it? :)

We switched to the red and white label a year and a half ago, and switched to the tablets about 6 months ago.

They are way easier to deal with.
Man I would of swore I used DCP in under a year but maybe it has been that long! Thanks for the help.
 
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Man I would of swore I used DCP in under a year but maybe it has been that long! Thanks for the help.
My pleasure.

I find the tabs to be MUCH superior, not to mention more portable.

I always have a few DCP with me now, just in case.
 
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alright, I know what all the ingredients to DCP entail. But, Potassium Pyruvate whats its purpose?
 

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alright, I know what all the ingredients to DCP entail. But, Potassium Pyruvate whats its purpose?
Pyruvate is involved in another complex system called the Pyruvate Dehydrogenase Complex (PDC), which interacts with the CPT system (13). Pyruvate is a Krebs Cycle intermediate, which is rate controlled by the amount of acetyl-CoA that enters the cycle, one of the conversions from pyruvate (13). For simplicity's sake, the result is an ATP/energy enhancement from the mitochondria and an increase in fuel consumption. The electrolyte potassium form was added to attenuate cramping issues observed from previous TTA products.
Translated, TTA products in the past caused electrolyte imbalances which lead to some very unpleasant situations involved cramping/soreness. Potassium Pyruvate was added to this formulation to help restore electrolyte imbalances and prevent cramps from occurring.
 
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Thanks Urban well im well over 1.5 gallons a day! I dare my muscles to cramp! I dare them!
 

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No reason not to take creatine, though if bloating is a concern I would opt for a form like gluconate or malate.
I thought I remembered something from back when TTA first caught on about it and creatine shouldn't be taken together? something like TTA depleated atp while creatine replenished it or something. Correct me if im mistaken.
 
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I thought I remembered something from back when TTA first caught on about it and creatine shouldn't be taken together? something like TTA depleated atp while creatine replenished it or something. Correct me if im mistaken.
You might be thinking about GPA (guanidinopropionic acid).
 
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:fest30:Im using DCP right now for my cut and will be picking up more soon. mmmmmm love me some DCP!!!!!:drunk:
 
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Im liking it so far, im down 3lbs, since the 13th...calories have been down only 500 from maintenance.

Strength is up, and endurance as well.

I feel im getting even stronger.
 
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I have huge migraine from the EC/DCP stack, ohh man im in hell from the Caffiene. yet im not going over 200mg a day.
 
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I have huge migraine from the EC/DCP stack, ohh man im in hell from the Caffiene. yet im not going over 200mg a day.
Really? I'm really prone to migraines and have never had that happen. Do you take any blood pressure support supps?

Maybe take the ephedra without the caffeine.
 
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I kind of felt it build up, a couple days ago in the gym when Id bend down to pick up the weights, Id feel the pressure in my head, then it would go away. I was getting the pressure first on the side of my head, then the back, last night in the front, however, last nights was more intense, just threw a cold wash cloth over my face and passed out.

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For my DCP/EC stack, im down 210 yo 205, its been only 10days however, i think im getting stronger, could be diet. My stomach, I naturally pull in anything I don't like(suck it in). I released my stomach muscles, and the amount of body fat from 10days prior is such a HUGE difference to now.
 

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So I am Looking into gettin my fiance on some DCP and Perhaps some Lean FX. She is 25 and is on Zoloft for Anxiety and is currently taking birth control.

Does anybody see any potential conflicts with these items.

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Kev.
 
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So I am Looking into gettin my fiance on some DCP and Perhaps some Lean FX. She is 25 and is on Zoloft for Anxiety and is currently taking birth control.

Does anybody see any potential conflicts with these items.

Thanks.

Kev.
Not sure about Lean Fx (I will let an AX rep handle that part) but there shouldn't be any problem with DCP. Carnitine treatment is actually being studied as an adjunct to BC treatment, to control cholesterol and triglyceride levels.
 

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Thanks for the info about the DCP, i'll report back if there seems to be any issues.
I'll move my lean fx question to the appropriate section.
 
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Soo i just got more DCP in, oh yea and gut health, oh and Noxidant! Im gonna be shredded before i know it!!!! :yes(1)::icon16:
 
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just started recreate and DCP, will be interesting to see how it compares to the LR/DCP stack I've done before...
 
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just started recreate and DCP, will be interesting to see how it compares to the LR/DCP stack I've done before...
I think I'm leaning out more on it, then when stacked with LR. And my diet isn't as strict as it should be. So if I was more disciplined the results would be even better.
 
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From the "Fun Facts to Know and Share" department:

I re-cap my DCP. '000' caps are more than my poor throat can do (not the sword-swallower, me) - and this after ~30 years of dosing supps by the handful. OTOH, the contents of a '000' DCP fits nicely into a '00' cap...and I *can* swallow those...otherwise, I'd have to put it up for auction.

BTW - think this stuff would stack well w/ H.E.A.T.? :run:
(serious question, actually: you made 'em both, right?)
 
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From the "Fun Facts to Know and Share" department:

I re-cap my DCP. '000' caps are more than my poor throat can do (not the sword-swallower, me) - and this after ~30 years of dosing supps by the handful. OTOH, the contents of a '000' DCP fits nicely into a '00' cap...and I *can* swallow those...otherwise, I'd have to put it up for auction.

BTW - think this stuff would stack well w/ H.E.A.T.? :run:
(serious question, actually: you made 'em both, right?)
You have sold old school DCP...we now run them as tablets and they are smaller than a 00.

HEat was codesigned by myself and PAr Deus, from Avant...I'm still trying to find some reliable replacement alpha-yohimbine so we can get the product back onto the market.

 

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I'm actually running DCP + HEAT right now. I was on it for about 2 weeks, and now have added in both Gaspari Thyrotabs + SAN Thyrocuts II.

My workouts are unbelievable, I come home drenched in sweat. Losing weight at about a steady 2 lbs a week also.
 
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DCP is all around fantastic supplement. I would use it endlessly if I could. Just don't have the pockets for it :)
 
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I'm actually running DCP + HEAT right now. I was on it for about 2 weeks, and now have added in both Gaspari Thyrotabs + SAN Thyrocuts II.

My workouts are unbelievable, I come home drenched in sweat. Losing weight at about a steady 2 lbs a week also.
BIG hint - grab some cheap Bioperine and take 20mg with every dose of HEAT.
 

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Will these extend the effects of HEAT? I picked this stack because of its non-stim nature, but I have to tell you. I've been measuring my body temperature, and its up 1 to 2 degrees over norm. Don't know if I can take anymore "heat"...haha.
 
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Will these extend the effects of HEAT? I picked this stack because of its non-stim nature, but I have to tell you. I've been measuring my body temperature, and its up 1 to 2 degrees over norm. Don't know if I can take anymore "heat"...haha.
Inhibition of MAO A and B by some plant-derived alkaloids, phenols and anthraquinones
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A total of seventeen phytochemicals including seven alkaloids (piperine, strychnine, brucine, stachydrine, tetrandrine, frangchinoline and sinomenine), four phenols (paeonol, honokiol, magnolol and eugenol) and six anthraquinones (emodin, rhein, chrysorphanol, aloe-emodin, physcion and 1,8-dihydroxyanthraquinone) was examined for inhibitory activity of monoamine oxidase (MAO) A and B from rat brain mitochondrial. Among these compounds, piperine and paeonol were found to be inhibitory against MAO A in a dose-dependent manner with IC50 values of 49.3 and 54.6 μM, respectively. Piperine, paeonol and emodin were shown to inhibit MAO B in a dose-dependent manner with the IC50 data of 91.3, 42.5 and 35.4 μM, respectively. Lineweaver–Burk transformation of the inhibition data indicated that the inhibitory action of piperine on MAO A was of mixed type, and that of paeonol on the same type of the enzyme was of non-competitive type. For piperine, the Ki and KI were determined to be 35.8 and 25.7 μM, respectively. For paeonol, the Ki was estimated to be 51.1 μM. The inhibition of piperine and paeonol on MAO B was of competitive type with Ki values of 79.9 and 38.2 μM, respectively. The inhibition of emodin on MAO B was of mixed type with the Ki and KI data of 15.1 and 22.9 μM, respectively. The present investigation showed that the phytochemicals piperine, paeonol and emodin are potent MAO inhibitors whereas other compounds were inactive against any type of MAO at 100 μM in the present assay.

I also used Piperine in the new STRANGE shots, to extend and amplify the effects of L-dopa and PEA.
 

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I also wanted to add that this stack has been the first one (and i've tried many different supplements), that just completely destroyed my appetite. I honestly never feel like eating, and even if I feel hungry; I feel TOTALLY in control of it. There is no struggle whatsoever.
 
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I also wanted to add that this stack has been the first one (and i've tried many different supplements), that just completely destroyed my appetite. I honestly never feel like eating, and even if I feel hungry; I feel TOTALLY in control of it. There is no struggle whatsoever.
When I was first testing dosage of the Alpha-Y, I actually got to the point where I would have to set my alarm to remind me to eat.

Alpha-Y is BY FAR the most effective motivating compounds I have ever used. I got more done per hour of the day than any time since.

I am ITCHING to add this to the new Clear Edge Renewed, but so far all suppliers have failed quality tests.
 

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What about just getting some of the rawulfia extract rather than synthesizing it?
 
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What about just getting some of the rawulfia extract rather than synthesizing it?
Either one...Rauwolfia contains Reserpine, which has to be purged from the extract, then standardized for Rauwolscine (alpha-Y).

one of the other problems is that the amount needed is so miniscule, that the Indian companies I've been in touch with aren't willing to do it for smallish volume.
 

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Hm, maybe a joint deal w/ Avant to bring in a few kilos? It could possibly be used for HEAT + Clear Edge Renewed. Might even work well for trajectory?
 
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Hm, maybe a joint deal w/ Avant to bring in a few kilos? It could possibly be used for HEAT + Clear Edge Renewed. Might even work well for trajectory?
Even with all of that (and yes, getting HEAT back is a huge priority for me...I LOVE the stuff) we are still talking only 50 kilos.

Perhaps the economy tanking will improve their attitudes, somewhat...I'll see what I can do.

IMO, the herbal is just fine (though it would contain a very small amount of yohimbine.
 
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Matt,

Would taking DCP with something like Spawn (epi/tren) stack help with lethargy? I've seen studies where PLCAR can help with these types of partitioning issues that occur with PH's. How would I begin to dose it? I have a bottle of it right here and want to get the pep back into my step... I just feel like total ass though.
 
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