RobInKuwait
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don't forget her college thesis that is conveniently being underwraps until Nov. 05, 2008
Convenient. Just like how the Fannie/Freddie congressional inquiry is as well.
don't forget her college thesis that is conveniently being underwraps until Nov. 05, 2008
consensus...its all horesh!t! america and its politics can lick my nut sac, i've said it a thousand times...no matter who wins we are FUKED!
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This is just one article I found in a google. I also saw a youtube video and several other articles. Apparently she likes using the word "whitey" with a negative connotation.
I also read something about the Republican party having a tape of a sermon she gave at Rev. Wright's church with several phrases denouncing "whitey".
I haven't looked much into this. I find it interesting, but I think Barry has just as many questionable ties as Michelle. I wish they'd get examined more thoroughly by a major news network.
she is in unlimited supply of race cards and its borderlined disgusting! she has been spouting 'racial undertones' since early '07. i am far from prejudice or raciest, just my observation and that of millions more.
i think she is and crazier than hillary to boot. i just hope she doesn't cause her husband the election...which many dems have said they will not vote for him due to his wife.
I just showed you how your 2nd pargraph is not always accurate. So no need to respond furtherI was brought up poor as all hell. Single mother household with four kids. We had to stretch noodle soup with water and bullion cubes. So I have lived and breathed in "Lower" class. Some how, some way we made it through... and all four have went to college. I am not saying a little help here and there is a bad thing. Hell we were on food stamps for a short period of time. Thats not my issue here. My issue is the people who DO take advantage. I mean WHY work when you can get paid to do nothing.
And your part about not getting what you put in is wrong. My family worked hard and now each one of us is successful. My mother doesnt even have any post secondary education and made something out of herself, because she put in the effort. Because someone doesnt want to do the "Disgraceful" jobs of flipping burgers, or concrete construction is not my fault. Hell, I will swing a hammer in a minute if I have to. But redistribution makes people ask why... when I can get the benefits for free.
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Rob please don't post bullshit, unidentified AP reporters doesn't get it.Tell me you have never used the N word once in your life, don't lie. Does that make you racist?
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not what I am saying at all. In fact, my career drive is for the benefit of my daughter financially, so she will not have to struggle the way I had to growing up and early on, while on my own.Is what you're saying is that only the person who makes the money is entitled to it? Is passing money to future generations bad?
Also, I am not a fan of a redistribution, my issue was with those saying "you get what you put in". Which is not always true, as I gave a prime example, after watching my father work himself to death, 7 days a week the majority of my life. He put in, and did not get nearly equal out.
Wow. You seem to step in and blindly justify everything that is negatively said about Messiah Obama.Rob please don't post bullshit, unidentified AP reporters doesn't get it.Tell me you have never used the N word once in your life, don't lie. Does that make you racist?
Wow. You seem to step in and blindly justify everything that is negatively said about Messiah Obama.
Shoot, look at the attacks on Sarah Palin. I don't see the right justifying every little thing she does... in fact, they just do not care, and don't feel the need for every little thing to be justified.
Since cognitive adulthood, I have not spoke that word, and don't allow people around me to utilize such negative influence. If so, I seperate myself from those people. I don't join in for the thrills of it.
Unless we are saying Mrs. Obama hasn't reached conginitive adulthood, then I can see why you would justify her actions.
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No it doesn't, I call my friends nigger sometimes, get called nigger by them sometimes, only 2 male friends I have, 1 is black 1 is white, I'm brown.
By your definition, we're all racist right?
Which is idiotic in my opinion, what if someone says "I hate all white people or black people or brown people" but NEVER uses a "racial slur" does that make em not racist?![]()
Bullsh*t... you recieve government grants, stipends, and federal business loans to make this site work the way it does.Yet the site that you posting on right now is an example of its success.
Just saying.. :lol:
You are real good at passing off your uninformed narrow ass opinion as fact. Are you even going to vote? You don't know **** and before you respond I could give a **** less what you think about what i said, just so you know.
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I'm not registered to vote. On Oct. 6 I drove by the registration office and waved to a bird in the parking lot.
Why might you ask is this such news? It's not. I just don't like any of the candidates. I think they are all weird and none of them are good enough to lead a horse to water, let alone a country in crisis.
The solution? I'm thinking take that $700 billion bail out money and give everyone in the country a million bucks, put Mitt Romeny in charge, and let the good times roll. The economy would be back on it's feet. ****ing *******s who messed up the bank by charging outlandish interst rates....if you need an example see my truck....and then get a golden ****ing parachute from the bailout. No sir. Give me the money to pay off my loan thank you.
If all else fails....when someone says "Why did you vote for that fool!" I can smile and say...."Which one?" and then tell them..."Oh yeah...I don't vote."
“Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain.”
I think your view of the lower class is a bit skewed. I am not sure where and how you were brought up, but the lower class are not necessarily taking advantage of the system. Some of them legitimately cannot better their situation.
I will give you an example: My father was an immigrant who worked as a barber when he came here at 21. Most of my life he worked 7 days a week, usually going shop to shop, as well as driving all over NY and NJ going to peoples homes cutting hair. There was no way to better that for him, as he had a family to pay for, and make sure that they were taken care of. So again, not all of the poorer folk are taking advantage of the system.
the bolded is just plain wrong. It is not with 100% certainty that it happens that way, as I just showed you in my example.
If you dont like the Obama tax cuts, would you prefer more cuts to the wealthy? And if so, may I ask why? (Please dont break out into the trickle down nonsense however)
I dont disagree, however he is making 100% certain statements, which are categorically not soYet the site that you posting on right now is an example of its success.
Just saying.. :lol:
I would like to know where your assumption that Michelle Obama is racist comes from.
Rob please don't post bullshit, unidentified AP reporters doesn't get it.Tell me you have never used the N word once in your life, don't lie. Does that make you racist?
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Reaper329 said:I think your view of the lower class is a bit skewed. I am not sure where and how you were brought up, but the lower class are not necessarily taking advantage of the system. Some of them legitimately cannot better their situation.
I will give you an example: My father was an immigrant who worked as a barber when he came here at 21. Most of my life he worked 7 days a week, usually going shop to shop, as well as driving all over NY and NJ going to peoples homes cutting hair. There was no way to better that for him, as he had a family to pay for, and make sure that they were taken care of. So again, not all of the poorer folk are taking advantage of the system.
Thats true, and guess what? Your dad managed to provide for your family and didn't expect $1000 a year from the government to be handed to him with him paying no taxes just because he happened to breathe did he?
Even worse is the raw mathmatical stupidity of the obama tax plan. Those working class families will get an average of a whopping $15 more a week in their paychecks. Not quite enough for a family of 3 to go to mcdonalds. Yet the lawyer making 250k now will loose an extra 70k a year. You know the real effect of that? He'll fire a nanny, stop having his car detailed once a week, etc, and/or he'll raise his hourly rate. So the low end will get an insignificant amount of money, but also higher unemployment.
And before you trot out Obama's letter by academic economists saying his plan is better, try and find some practicing economists who have actually skin in the game and ask their opinion. Funny, those are the ones backing McCain... And use yourself as an example. If you suddenly were making 10% less a year, would you just say "gee whiz I guess thats what I'm making now but i'll still spend the same", no you'd spend less, and try to find a way to make more, which is exactly what the 250k + a year people will do, and exactly what the corporations will do. All Obama's tax plans will do is move more of the middle class downwards closer towards poverty, and reduce their ability and incentive to move upwards
I dont disagree, however he is making 100% certain statements, which are categorically not so
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I also read something about the Republican party having a tape of a sermon she gave at Rev. Wright's church with several phrases denouncing "whitey"....
she is in unlimited supply of race cards and its borderlined disgusting! she has been spouting 'racial undertones' since early '07. i am far from prejudice or raciest, just my observation and that of millions more....
i think she is and crazier than hillary to boot. i just hope she doesn't cause her husband the election...which many dems have said they will not vote for him due to his wife.
don't forget her college thesis that is conveniently being underwraps until Nov. 05, 2008
It doesnt seem like you are reading it properly. He said "you get what you put in". Now, in many instances that is true, but not 100% as I already showedAccording to you. That's not how I see it. Its sounds more like a personal belief rather than broad economic fact.
managed to provide? He struggled until he died at 54. Did we have food and a roof, yes, however were there times as a kid where from my job I gave him $ to pay bills? Plenty. So it is not always you get what you put in.Thats true, and guess what? Your dad managed to provide for your family and didn't expect $1000 a year from the government to be handed to him with him paying no taxes just because he happened to breathe did he?
you and I both know that their are economists on both sides of the issue, so this point is not truly an issue right now. For everyone you come up with I come up with one. We would be wasting time, and at the end of the day I think both are illequippedAnd before you trot out Obama's letter by academic economists saying his plan is better, try and find some practicing economists who have actually skin in the game and ask their opinion. Funny, those are the ones backing McCain... And use yourself as an example. If you suddenly were making 10% less a year, would you just say "gee whiz I guess thats what I'm making now but i'll still spend the same", no you'd spend less, and try to find a way to make more, which is exactly what the 250k + a year people will do, and exactly what the corporations will do. All Obama's tax plans will do is move more of the middle class downwards closer towards poverty, and reduce their ability and incentive to move upwards
I seriously doubt that millions of objective individuals share your perspective!
you can doubt, but you'd be wrong. In a country of over 300 million, I'd be willing to bet there are a good 10-12 million who feel that way at least....
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Of bigger concern is why Obama's own Columbia records were sealed? I think its because he only got in due to affirmative action and not because of grades, and he doesn't want that to come out. Although he did get into harvard on merit from what we can tell.
Affirmative action probably also get him elected the first Black president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review in 1990 (over 18 other contesting candidates and 61 non-contesting)! Let's stop trying to paint everything we do not like negative!
It doesnt seem like you are reading it properly. He said "you get what you put in". Now, in many instances that is true, but not 100% as I already showed
again from you ike, selective vision. i said hr lrgitimately got into harvard but question what happened as far as his admission to his first college, and you throw in something irrelevant, what happened after he graduated colombia isnt in question, its how/why he got into columbia...
beginings are important, like his political career beginning in the living room of an unrepentant domestic terrorist who still to this day says he would have done more if he wasnt an incompetent bomb builder
It is interesting that this thread originally meant to focus on Sarah Palin's USD 150K wardrobe. Within a few posts, it was spun against Mr. Obama and his campaign! Ingenious, but :fool2:!
again from you ike, selective vision. i said hr lrgitimately got into harvard but question what happened as far as his admission to his first college, and you throw in something irrelevant, what happened after he graduated colombia isnt in question, its how/why he got into columbia.
beginings are important, like his political career beginning in the living room of an unrepentant domestic terrorist who still to this day says he would have done more if he wasnt an incompetent bomb builder
again sadly, you are the one being selective, I acknowledge his performance at harvard, but I question the mans character becuase he is apparently trying to hide something at Columbia. If he has nothign to hide, it shouldn't be lockedAs far as I selectively see, you are the one that selectively applies! All in a sudden, Columbia is all-important, and Harvard is irrelevant. You speculate about Columbia, and on that basis, question the man's entire character!
How come no one is suggesting the entire Chicago is terrorist because Mr. Ayers was voted "Citizen of the Year 1997"? Why is no one insisting the 3000 professors that signed solidarity with Ayers lately aren't all terrorists? Selective perception!
please take a look at post #15 from this threadAnd where did he state that was true 100% all the time in every situation? Its a personal belief...sort of a personal motto to go by based on what you believe the majority of the time will happen. Your one example isn't going to change that.
I think the one reading into a bit much, is you. Relax..nobody is reading it right or wrong. You are assuming and so am I.
You get what you put in. Interesting play with numbers.
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again sadly, you are the one being selective, I acknowledge his performance at harvard, but I question the mans character becuase he is apparently trying to hide something at Columbia. If he has nothign to hide, it shouldn't be locked...
I never stated Obama was a terrorist because of his association, again you drawing conclusions that have nothing to do with statements due to your selective vision....
I would state that Obama, Chicago and those 3000 professors made a poor choice and an antiamerican choice by glorifying and accepting an unrepentant unreformed domestic terrorist....
I have no respect for chicago's totally warped politics, nor much respect for academics who wish to hide in their academic society, yet push their own liberal wishes on the outside productive world.
i never said i wasn't, merey that you continue to do so as wellI am being selective in my perception and you are not? :think:
You seem to breach the boundary between speculation and fact as you wish. Because you think Mr. Obama is hiding something does not mean he actually is. Furthermore, suggesting that what is not accessible to you must be something negative or evil does not lend credibility to your position. Fact and fiction need to be separated!
Show me where I stated you branded Mr. Obama a terrorist! You are the one springing to conclusions!
Sure, you can state what you wish!
Something tells me that if Chicagoans, Chicago politicians, or even those academics, read your comment, they would say "Who cares"!
which at this point is exactly how i feel about your coments in the political area of a country you don't live in
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when a person running for high office chooses to ask to have a part of their hisory sealed selectively, then it is entirely reasonable to assume that their reaoning is they don't want it to be seen. he didn't ask o have his harvard recrds sealed, just columbia...
...you were the one who asked if i thought all of chicago was terrorist due to their choosing Ayers s man of the year...
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which at this point is exactly how i feel about your coments in the political area of a country you don't live in
and you think the dems are not paying to make sure Obama and his racist ass wife look pretty when they go somewhereor on tv...give me a break. at least palin is hot...my on ly complaint is they didn'y buy more reveling clothing:twisted:
I would state that Obama, Chicago and those 3000 professors made a poor choice and an antiamerican choice by glorifying and accepting an unrepentant unreformed domestic terrorist.
BWAHAHAHA... You are STILL at it Reaper? Keep fighting that good fight my friend. :rofl:please take a look at post #15 from this thread
His statement makes no reference to "part-time or full-time". However there are inferences that are made from it.
Regardless of that, you are right, it is just his opinion
i got a c-note that says obama takes it on supertuesday.....
any takers?
i will accept or pay in the forms of paypal, money orders, cashiers checks, and/or supplements.
lol
i just love how either side(both obama and mccain) justifies the respective candidates phuckups.
I must add however, it does appear that mccain/palin are leading the phuckup race. lol
I just laugh at her........If it wasnt for the daily show and colbert, I would run down the hall screaming.
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Hillary Clinton designer finds Palins wardrobe spending strange
Hillary Clintons pantsuits designer thinks that it would be unusual for a candidate as famous as Sarah Palin to need to buy clothes.
Washington, Oct 23 : Hillary Clinton's pantsuits designer thinks that it would be unusual for a candidate as famous as Sarah Palin to need to buy clothes.
Republican National Committee has spent up to 150,000 dollars on the vice Presidential nominee's wardrobe and makeup, since she became John McCain's running mate.
However, one of the most famous political fashion designers of the year, Susanna Chung Forest, says that she finds the spending strange.
"Why do you need to pay for it?" CBS News quoted Forest, as saying.
"It's an honour, you are going to design for someone who could be the president of the United States," she added.
The McCain-Palin campaign issued a statement shortly after the expenditure report appeared online.
"With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we are spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses. It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign," said spokesperson Tracey Schmitt.
actually just repsponded to the aforementioned kruger.BWAHAHAHA... You are STILL at it Reaper? Keep fighting that good fight my friend. :rofl:
I will leave it what Kruger said... he is much more eloquent than I.
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How do you feel about Palin's membership in, and support for a group headed by Joe Vogler?
Here's an interesting story:
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So if most candidates get their clothes for free....which is a violation of campaign law....McCain's campaign is taking crap for buying clothing for a candidate who came 5000 miles on a days notice to begin running for VP?
Don't you think it costs money to clothe a candidate in expensive suits? If they're getting them for free that should be the issue. Have you ever said....gee, it looks like Obama/McCain/Biden is wearing a cheap suit today.
It costs money to prepare a candidate for a campaign, they need food, clothes, transportation, and many other necessities.
Where were you guys when Michelle Obama ordered Iranian caviar and Champagne from room service at the Waldorf Astoria. I guarantee that was either a gift or on the campaign budget.
One could ask why a "Jane six pack" would need clothes from Nieman Marcus and Saks 5th Ave:lol: but honestly that's all stupid crap, I have no problem with them spending their money anyway the deem necessary.
Btw, the Michelle Obama story was untrue as she didn't stay at the Waldorf. A retraction was printed in the Rupert Murdoch rag (NY Post) on page 43 2 days later.
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Oh didn't hear about that Michelle Obama retraction....
Still waiting on CNNs retraction about McCain giving up on Colorado.
please take a look at post #15 from this thread
His statement makes no reference to "part-time or full-time". However there are inferences that are made from it.
Regardless of that, you are right, it is just his opinion