Mk 677 What's the verdict
- 01-31-2018, 05:02 AM
Just to add to this conversation... Starting igf was 170, after 3 weeks on OL's mk it was 240 which is the upper reference limit of the lab. Thats with 20mg /day.
Got bloat arround the first month. Then it went away, more or less. Got a lot more bloat at 30mg. Hunger? What hunger? It really didnt help me much with appetite. Its really hard for me to bulk so this was a side I was looking forward to. Been bulking now for almost 3 months and food is coming out of my ears
Muscle, sleep, etc. hard to tell. Was taking alphamax xt with it which helped a lot, so hard to tell ehat was mk. Im still on it. Its 12 weeks now I think...
- 01-31-2018, 09:51 AM
I took 1 cap a day of MA Labs Somatozine. Lasted 60 days and I gained 10 pounds. Still have 6 of those pounds. I will be using again soon. There is no doubt it works. BTW this is not just something that increases appetite so you can gain few pounds. I didn’t eat much more on MK than normal.Brother don't be afraid. We are together. We fall together. Coheed and Cambria
01-31-2018, 02:33 PM
I have been on 20mg mk for the last 14 weeks.
Hunger is crazy still. My dtomach is never full. I eat over 5 k calories day in day out. Wake up hungry middle of the night...
I tried reducing calories to 3k so i dont get fat but i just cant stop eating....
Good thing somehow all those ectra cLories get used up so my weight increases but slowly
01-31-2018, 02:48 PM
01-31-2018, 04:14 PM
02-04-2018, 07:21 PM
02-04-2018, 07:29 PM
Wish I was making it up, I’ve done every off the shelf ph,ds there is or was 5+ years ago with great results, I’m 29 now got diet pretty dialed in and can gain slowly when at a surplus I saw nothing out of the ordinary in the 2+ months, took it like clock work empty stomach right before bed
02-04-2018, 10:48 PM
1.) You are a genetic anomaly.
2.) You are not telling the truth.
You see, without getting into a bunch of technical speak, MK-677 by its very nature will cause weight gain in everyone who uses it, which is why virtually everyone who has used it has said they've gained weight. You even said you "ate more", yet still gained no weight. Simply eating more than normal should cause weight gain, even if it is from the additional water/glycogen storage, but to eat more AND take MK-677...and still not gain ANY weight, well, that is nearly impossible. It would be like someone taking Anadrol or M1T, while increasing their caloric intake...and then gaining NO weight at all. Has anyone ever seen that happen? I haven't...because even if someone doesn't train at all, taking those drugs will still cause weight gain via water retention, which is why all the patients from the 60's who took Anadrol for anemia gained weight.
It's the same with MK-677. By its very nature it stimulates water retention both intramuscularly and subcutaneously. So, to "eat more" and take a ghrelin mimetic is a guaranteed recipe for weight gain, just like eating more and taking Anadrol is guaranteed recipe for weight gain, or eating more and taking exo. GH is a guaranteed recipe for weight gain.
Like I said above, I am not saying you're lying, but I am struggling to find an answer to your dilemma.
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02-04-2018, 11:12 PM
I am cutting and tried taking Somatozine at the same time because I like quality of sleep that I would get. But could not lose the weight, left me wondering why because I was still gaining 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week on a deficit diet and walking around hungry at night.
So it definitely works that was just with one tab at night, I could not imagine taking two. I donít think you are taking Mikes brand or you got fake stuff somewhere.
02-05-2018, 01:10 AM
02-05-2018, 01:36 AM
I used Olympus UK and Outlier nutrition brands of MK in the past two years of serious training... Both brands work well, increased hunger, recovery is boosted, etc.
Does anyone know if tolerance after long use happens with MK-677? My current cycle does not include MK, because while it worked well for a long time... I think it causes cramps after awhile?
I heard that was also a side, does it mess up electrolyte balance or something else? I discontinued and cramps largely stopped over Xmas break. For the first year or so I was fine with MK daily.
If tolerance does occur, what is the break time needed?
02-05-2018, 05:39 AM
02-05-2018, 07:57 AM
ive personally used dna and german pharma. all gave me lethargy when i took but not much other than that. dna seemed pretty rubbish.
i then tried a random unbranded ebay dude and this seemed to be a bit stronger with the lethargy but still not much gains apart from that.
heavy training and slight increase in food.
ill maybe try again in the summer and see on a different brand in UK
02-05-2018, 11:47 AM
02-06-2018, 12:17 AM
As for "glossing over" those people it doesn't work for, there is NO ONE ELSE who has ever claimed this...except you, but that ended up being untrue. You initially claimed that it did "nothing" for you (those were your words, "nothing"), yet when you were pressed you finally admitted you gained weight, which means that it DID work for you. You just didn't like the effects it provided. Not everyone does. Just like some people don't like Dianabol due to the watery look it provides, some people don't like MK-677 due to the moderate subcutaneous water retention it provides (note: the majority of water retention with MK is intramuscular, which is a good thing). It's completely fine to not like certain effects, but at least be accurate. Don't say a compound does "nothing" just because you don't like the effects it provides.
You see, we're PAST the point of disputing whether or not MK "works". Just like no one would come on here and say Dianabol "doesn't work", neither can anyone say MK-677 doesn't work...because it ALWAYS works...just like Dianabol and every other clinically and anecdotally proven drug "'works". Now, how well a compound works for someone, as well as whether or not the individual likes its effects, are a different issue altogether.
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02-06-2018, 01:12 AM
gaining an extra lb or 2 when eating more is pretty much nothing. I do not believe much 'gains' were made in strength or size. I am not completely knocking the substance but I am clearly not the only non responder.... I am only stating truthful facts...
02-06-2018, 08:46 AM
So yes, there are some people like this...and of course, some people don't notice good results due to **** genetics or some other issue...but it's not the drug's fault.
Aside from that, MK has clearly been shown to provide the expected outward effects in like 99%+ (probably more like 99.9%) of those who use it. Until this last month I had NEVER seen anyone say it did nothing for them...and even you, who is one of the two people I've seen say this, can't make that claim (even though your claims keep changing). MK-677 has done what it is supposed to do in every single test subject in every single clinical study ever conducted. It increased IGF-1 levels and caused weight gain in everyone...and of course, we have the 100's (if not 1,000's at this point) of people who have personally posted their results.
Did you get your IGF-1 levels tested? No, or you would have said so. For all you know they could have gone from 100 to 250, which certainly would have been substantial, but like I said above, even hormones can't guarantee muscle growth in those who don't know how to train and/or eat...or who have horrible genetics...or both.
By the time a drug has been through a dozen clinical trials and used by 1,000's of people successfully--with BARELY ANYONE claiming it doesn't work--I think we can safely say the compound works. In a few years it will likely be a prescription drug for muscle growth/atrophy prevention, as one of the original inventors of the compound is now attempting to have it made into a script drug. Anamorelin, which is a GH secretagogue like MK, is a script drug for muscle growth in Europe...and that is the direction MK is heading.
Anyone who claims MK doesn't work is ignorant. If someone came in and said Anadrol doesn't work, would anyone believe them? Of course not. In the case of drugs like steroids, SARMs, MK, GH, IGF-1, etc...there are only two types of people that don't experience the outward results it is known for--those who don't know how to eat and/or train...or those with **** genetics. There are no other options. When one of these drugs doesn't provide the kind of result someone expects we don't say the drug doesn't "work" or that the individual was a "non-responder". Rather, we say the person either doesn't know how to eat/train, or they have bad genetics (it's possible they could have an underlying medical issue as well). We don't say they are "non-responders" because that implies that the drug produces different physiological effects in those individuals relative to everyone else, which is not the case. The flaw lies with the individual's personal response to those physiological effects, not a failure of the drug to provide those effects. For example, if someone injects testosterone and their T levels goes up 300%, yet they gain no muscle mass, we don't say the drug didn't work or call them non-responders. After all, their T levels went up 300%, so the drug did do what it was supposed to do. Rather, that individual wasn't able to take advantage of that increase in testosterone to build muscle, which there could be a 100 different reasons for.
Let's use GH as another example. If someone uses GH and doesn't lose any fat, it doesn't mean that the person is a "non-responder"...because the drug DID increase the rate of lipolysis in them just like it does in everyone else, but for one reason or another the individual wasn't able to take advantage of that increase in lipolysis to lose fat. Whether it was due to a poor diet, thyroid deficiency, or whatever else, it doesn't matter. The drug still did what it was supposed to do. It's no different with MK. It does what it is supposed to do for everyone, but whether or not it provides the type of outward change that individual is looking for is another situation altogether. Fortunately, MK seems to provide the type of outward results we expect in nearly everyone who takes it.
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02-06-2018, 08:47 AM
02-06-2018, 10:17 AM
02-06-2018, 09:42 PM
I’m leaning towards messed up genetics, honestly, I tried FN mk677 a couple years ago I made a post about that ppl were praising the product, i got itchy pimply scalp like crazy, nips were itchy, ( I know not to play with them) soon had a little gyno flare up, lump on one side size of a pea sharp pain to touch, I’ve had this problem before after a dbol run in my younger dumber days of not knowing pct, but anyways I stoped that mk did some nolva and all was good, so I don’t know maybe I screwed my self up in previous cycles *♂️
02-09-2018, 10:52 PM
Hey Mike, it says on the description page for somatozine that it lowers cortisol levels. Can u explain how it does this and or send me links to studies? Thanks
02-10-2018, 03:42 AM
02-10-2018, 03:55 PM
lmao itt its impossible to have a non-responder to something if you're selling it...
I 100% agree that the "non-responder" excuse is well overused around here and online, but saying its impossible just shows a piss poor understanding of physiology.
02-10-2018, 04:22 PM
I am on Day 6 of my 3 month + new run, 30mg pre bed MK677 by DNA anabolics, i have had tingling in one of my hands today which i have had in the past from using this product, sleep is odd, i have very vivid dreams and seem to recover well but awake a few times through the night. I also seem to be retaining more water which i feel is aiding with strength in my workouts, i have been suffering from soreness under biceps at top of inner forearms which radiates down arm to fingers, almost feels like broken arm at times and aches bad, hope the MK677 aids with recovery and eliminates this. Hunger has not kicked in yet but did last time after around 2 weeks.
02-10-2018, 11:04 PM
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