Yeah generally for me time on = time off, as far as orals are concerned.If it helps, all liver enzymes are well within range for me before 3 weeks typically.
Yeah generally for me time on = time off, as far as orals are concerned.If it helps, all liver enzymes are well within range for me before 3 weeks typically.
Why so little? I thought a healthy thyroid put out about 30mcg. Ive gotten the impression there wasnt much point in going much less than 50.Just added 10mcg T3 in the AM and will adjust as needed, likely will be AM and some few hours later both 10-15mcg.
You are correct, a healthy thyroid produces 25-30mcg of t3 daily. I personally go 75-100mcg if you actually want to loose fat, anything less than 50 is mostly maintenance imo. If you're on anabolics you won't loose muscle especially if you keep protein intake up. At 25mcg he will maintain thyroid levels if that's his objective.Why so little? I thought a healthy thyroid put out about 30mcg. Ive gotten the impression there wasnt much point in going much less than 50.
Oh cmon! I thought the pip wasn’t that bad?! I bought 60ml’s yesterday!
Yes. I have an under active thyroid. And it’s going up slowly. First two weeks, it’s 20-30mcg.Why so little? I thought a healthy thyroid put out about 30mcg. Ive gotten the impression there wasnt much point in going much less than 50.
The stuff I have is good. Very minimal pip if it’s close to a nerve or blood vessel, no pip otherwise. 100mg/ml. Came in 20ml vials too so it all equals out vs other more concentrated brewers. Smart move I think.It all depends on the cook. I use to home brew 100mg/ml and no pip
His 300mg/ml test has zero pip practically.The stuff I have is good. Very minimal pip if it’s close to a nerve or blood vessel, no pip otherwise. 100mg/ml. Came in 20ml vials too so it all equals out vs other more concentrated brewers. Smart move I think.
I will be using this same source for as long as I can, for sure.
Yeah I am pretty impressed with the quality of it. I get no pip whatsoever not even the welt from that test E. It absorbs fast, for me.His 300mg/ml test has zero pip practically.
Pinned it with 125mg/ml NPP and was pretty baffled how smooth two high potency oils were
GotchaYes. I have an under active thyroid. And it’s going up slowly. First two weeks, it’s 20-30mcg.
Most guys don’t get insomnia from time asking 20mcg when they wake up.Gotcha
Weird. Ive been taking 70 with no sleep issuesMost guys don’t get insomnia from time asking 20mcg when they wake up.
I do. Immediately. Slept two hours each the last two nights.
My thyroid really sucks. I’m a guy who can eat barely 500 calories in a day and still store body fat.Weird. Ive been taking 70 with no sleep issues
I also feel like i have a crummy thyroid, though apparently not the worst.My thyroid really sucks. I’m a guy who can eat barely 500 calories in a day and still store body fat.
So, naturally I’m hyper sensitive to T3.
I’m using my sensitivity to the compounds while I still have it....while I keep gaining weight, while also in a caloric deficit...
....It will burn fat for fuel and begin to build muscle out of all consumed calories. ...
Hehehe! Chasing the holy grail, are we?
Sounds like magic.
All very cool my friend. I’m in a deficit too. However I take in enough carbs to run and enough protein and roids to maintain and build some muscle........my fat stores take care of the restI’m using my sensitivity to the compounds while I still have it.
Being in a deficit mobilizes fat stores, being in high muscular demand spares eaten calories and the delta 1 steroids command the process recruit satellite cells for assimilation as muscle tissue rapidly.
It’s all very scientific.
App up vote +.I’m using my sensitivity to the compounds while I still have it.
Being in a deficit mobilizes fat stores, being in high muscular demand spares eaten calories and the delta 1 steroids command the process recruit satellite cells for assimilation as muscle tissue rapidly.
It’s all very scientific.
Oh, a surprise!In three weeks there will be a surprise addition to the cycle.
Yes. A surprise. Some will say very stupid, others will say very cool. All will be shocked.Oh, a surprise!
Hahaha exactly what I was thinking!Oh, a surprise!
Yeah the cholesterol and heart effects of these compounds worry me more than other sides..Cardiac hypertrophy unless accompanied by exercises isn’t a good thing. Thinking of the heart is generally bad unless it’s thicker because of exercise (as this generates more mitochondria etc and better aerobic and anaerobic pathway metabolisms). Not sure exactly why but a hypertrophied heart from exercise is different than a hypertrophied heart via steroids etc. possibly due to the different type of tissue build up. Exercise is more gradual so there may be less collagen build up. Steroids have been known to cause the heart to build up more collagen which leads to a bunch of issues down the road.
Steroids often cause inward hypertrophy where the heart DEcreases LV chamber size where as exercise tends to promote a more outward thickening. Possibly because the heart has to deal with increased blood volume associated with EPO production in bone marrow as well as increased fluid retention.
Quick google search yielded this
“Pathological cardiac hypertrophy is associated with poor prognosis and is a hallmark of heart failure (72, 73, 103). In contrast, exercise training-induced physiological cardiac hypertrophy presents cardioprotective effects and is not related to heart failure”
Same article
“LV remodeling induced by pathological stress leads to progressive declines in cardiac output, myocardial rarefaction, increased apoptosis, cardiomyocyte metabolism switch from fatty acid to glucose use, and increased fibrosis (35, 49).”
Got the above from here
Aerobic exercise training promotes physiological cardiac remodeling involving a set of microRNAs
Left ventricular (LV) hypertrophy is an important physiological compensatory mechanism in response to chronic increase in hemodynamic overload. There are two different forms of LV hypertrophy, one physiological and another pathological. Aerobic exercise ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I wouldn’t touch it with a 20 foot stick personallyYeah the cholesterol and heart effects of these compounds worry me more than other sides..
Can't wait for this!!In three weeks there will be a surprise addition to the cycle.
Right. I meant it as a bad thing.Cardiac hypertrophy unless accompanied by exercises isn’t a good thing. Thinking of the heart is generally bad unless it’s thicker because of exercise (as this generates more mitochondria etc and better aerobic and anaerobic pathway metabolisms). Not sure exactly why but a hypertrophied heart from exercise is different than a hypertrophied heart via steroids etc. possibly due to the different type of tissue build up. Exercise is more gradual so there may be less collagen build up. Steroids have been known to cause the heart to build up more collagen which leads to a bunch of issues down the road.
Steroids often cause inward hypertrophy where the heart DEcreases LV chamber size where as exercise tends to promote a more outward thickening. Possibly because the heart has to deal with increased blood volume associated with EPO production in bone marrow as well as increased fluid retention.
Quick google search yielded this
“Pathological cardiac hypertrophy is associated with poor prognosis and is a hallmark of heart failure (72, 73, 103). In contrast, exercise training-induced physiological cardiac hypertrophy presents cardioprotective effects and is not related to heart failure”
Same article
“LV remodeling induced by pathological stress leads to progressive declines in cardiac output, myocardial rarefaction, increased apoptosis, cardiomyocyte metabolism switch from fatty acid to glucose use, and increased fibrosis (35, 49).”
Got the above from here
Aerobic exercise training promotes physiological cardiac remodeling involving a set of microRNAs
Left ventricular (LV) hypertrophy is an important physiological compensatory mechanism in response to chronic increase in hemodynamic overload. There are two different forms of LV hypertrophy, one physiological and another pathological. Aerobic exercise ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Ahhh my bad, I thought you were like “big heart? AWESOME! Can’t wait to get swole everywhere” haha. My apologies bro. It was a late night when I typed that upRight. I meant it as a bad thing.
M1T?In three weeks there will be a surprise addition to the cycle.
Nope, I want smooth and unremarkable cardiac tissue when I’m on the coroner’s block. I’m doing the math and it seems like it’s a LOT of T3 it takes to do this kind of permanent damage, they were saying the metabolism increase was permanent as well at that high a dose.Ahhh my bad, I thought you were like “big heart? AWESOME! Can’t wait to get swole everywhere” haha. My apologies bro. It was a late night when I typed that up
Perm cardiac damage would cause a metabolic increase, probably a lot of cellular changes through the body though. Depends on how high the dose needed is but I assume it’s either toxicity related or it’s dose dependent for some other reason. If it’s not toxicity then I think it would be safe to say that at any dose you’re going to have some changes regardlessNope, I want smooth and unremarkable cardiac tissue when I’m on the coroner’s block. I’m doing the math and it seems like it’s a LOT of T3 it takes to do this kind of permanent damage, they were saying the metabolism increase was permanent as well at that high a dose.
Crazy stuff.
If I did steroids again, I would do anavar long term with an M1T kickstart.Buuuuut... it could be halotestin or anavar or superdrol or winstrol or injectable MSten or...
Wouldn’t touch what? T3? T2 they showed in that study was for certain the much more harmful chemical. More negative feedback per mcg and less activity at the thyroid hormone receptors.I wouldn’t touch it with a 20 foot stick personally
Winstrol knocks epistane right out of the running. I have winstrol. And anavar. Real anavar.Best 2 roids I did in the past were pheraplex and epistane. Did superdrol, s-drol, and it did not compare to pheraplex or epi.
If you have already used a bulking compound, it would be best to take the mild steroid for 4 to 6 weeks, then hit 5he phera, so that it is more pronounced. That is a feel good steroid, and the pumps are insane.Winstrol knocks epistane right out of the running. I have winstrol. And anavar. Real anavar.
Phera was great. I have some. Planning to use it fairly soon.
I have anavar and winstrol for the end of this blast. Unless I’m not all that lean. In which case I’ll be using superdrol for that.If you have already used a bulking compound, it would be best to take the mild steroid for 4 to 6 weeks, then hit 5he phera, so that it is more pronounced. That is a feel good steroid, and the pumps are insane.
One day... I want to make sure the arm looks as different as possible to the first one....When we gonna get some post workout pumped up pictures
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