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thatoneguy

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ok guys quick ? for all you that have used the old 1 ad.
i recently fell in to 4 bottles of i and i wanted to know what on the market tooday would stack well that wouldnt increase side effects or inhibit 1 ad or its gains.....i have fini,h-50,PP,1,4 bold, orastan e,epistane, and furzadrol on hand.

thanks guys
 
thatoneguy said:
ok guys quick ? for all you that have used the old 1 ad.
i recently fell in to 4 bottles of i and i wanted to know what on the market tooday would stack well that wouldnt increase side effects or inhibit 1 ad or its gains.....i have fini,h-50,PP,1,4 bold, orastan e,epistane, and furzadrol on hand.

thanks guys
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I loved 1-ad!!!! I would stack it with 1,4-ad,and halodrol. 1-ad is rather androgenic and tends to be harsh on those associated side effects. PP is side effects in a bottle(garbage),Epi is way over rated,orastane is a good stack option for anything really.
 
Go with H-50 or possibly the Fin... DO NOT STACK IT WITH PP, you're asking for b!tch tits from that stack!

Orastane E could be a 3rd option...

4 bottles, eh?
 
thatoneguy said:
ok guys quick ? for all you that have used the old 1 ad.
i recently fell in to 4 bottles of i and i wanted to know what on the market tooday would stack well that wouldnt increase side effects or inhibit 1 ad or its gains.....i have fini,h-50,PP,1,4 bold, orastan e,epistane, and furzadrol on hand.

thanks guys
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Whatcha really need to do is find yourself some 4ad, and party like its 2004 :)
 
thatoneguy said:
ok guys quick ? for all you that have used the old 1 ad.
i recently fell in to 4 bottles of i and i wanted to know what on the market tooday would stack well that wouldnt increase side effects or inhibit 1 ad or its gains.....i have fini,h-50,PP,1,4 bold, orastan e,epistane, and furzadrol on hand.

thanks guys
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IMO, you really should stack it with something that will boost libido. 1AD is notorious as a libido killer. Have you tried any of the more recent designers out there?
 
TripDog said:
I loved 1-ad!!!! I would stack it with 1,4-ad,and halodrol. 1-ad is rather androgenic and tends to be harsh on those associated side effects. PP is side effects in a bottle(garbage),Epi is way over rated,orastane is a good stack option for anything really.
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I found madol to be one of my favorite designers. Although I used ergomax rather than PP, but I'd assume that the effects would be comparable. Aside from increased BP, I felt great on it.

The sides from 1-AD and 4-AD were much worse in comparison.
 
1 AD and PP do not mix well with one and other, IMO. 3 of my friends ran this stack in 2004-2005 and regreted it big time. 2 of them had to have GYNO surgery. If your looking for a scientific answer, that may have to wait until tomorrow - my brain is too tired to try and explain the 2 and how they will interact.
 
matthew76 said:
1 AD and PP do not mix well with one and other, IMO. 3 of my friends ran this stack in 2004-2005 and regreted it big time. 2 of them had to have GYNO surgery. If your looking for a scientific answer, that may have to wait until tomorrow - my brain is too tired to try and explain the 2 and how they will interact.
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I'd be interested to hear. Neither aromatize, but that's not to say that there won't be gyno issues. On paper, to me it appears that they'd actually work fairly well together...at least better than most of the designer "stacks" that folks are running nowadays.
 
could be from sh*tty post cycle therapy
 
quigs said:
I'd be interested to hear. Neither aromatize, but that's not to say that there won't be gyno issues. On paper, to me it appears that they'd actually work fairly well together...at least better than most of the designer "stacks" that folks are running nowadays.
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they say it doesn't aromatize but PP is well known as a wet compound with estrogen-related sides.

maybe stacking it with 1-AD would greatly compound sides, but i had no sides on PP aside from mild back pumps once or twice, was pretty much negligible.
 
UnrealMachine said:
they say it doesn't aromatize but PP is well known as a wet compound with estrogen-related sides.

maybe stacking it with 1-AD would greatly compound sides, but i had no sides on PP aside from mild back pumps once or twice, was pretty much negligible.
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The fact that it is a "wet" compound does not necessarily mean it has anything to do with estrogenic effects. There's a whole lot of factors that can lead to fluid retention. Also, a lot of the "estro-related sides" (like increased sub-q fat and water) may be a misinterpretation by the user...they assume its due to estrogen.

If you look at the Madol structure, you will see that there is no possibilty of aromatization. I would be interested to see test/estradiol levels in PP users.
 

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quigs said:
The fact that it is a "wet" compound does not necessarily mean it has anything to do with estrogenic effects. There's a whole lot of factors that can lead to fluid retention. Also, a lot of the "estro-related sides" (like increased sub-q fat and water) may be a misinterpretation by the user...they assume its due to estrogen.

If you look at the Madol structure, you will see that there is no possibilty of aromatization. I would be interested to see test/estradiol levels in PP users.
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On paper, PP shouldn't react that differently from ergomax but I've noticed a pattern in user feedback indicating that it does. In point of fact, I've known a number of people who experienced prolactin-related gyno issues on PP (including lactation).

I have no idea why PP and Ergo would react so differently but I've seen it reported often enough from experienced users that I believe it should be taken seriously as a potential side-effect.
 
I finished my PP cycle last week and had no real side effects to speak of. Drinking toremifene at nights at the moment :) to be sure
 
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