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WAF does an OL Super1/Super4/EPI run and various other product reviews.

WAF said:
Thanks bro, actually just got the stitches removed but I popped two stitches when I was working yesterday so I was told nothing heavy.....he's like what do you do again for a living? Oh ok well there goes that idea of taking it easy. Time to pull out the Richard Simmons weight. It's all good sometimes a lil break is exactly what the body needs. I start light and work back up.
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welcome back bro
 
Final impression for this Andro stack of Epi@1000mg, Super-1@330mg and Super-4@330 Duration 4weeks. These are weeks 4-8 and was running a different stack on initial 1-4wks.

This andro stack helped me out with increased size and strength. One great thing about this stack is that if you find that your current dose say of Epi is too much you can make an adjustment and drop 250mg's or more if needed. Also keep in mind on having this products solo compounds you can stack certain ones with Super-11, and the soon to be released Super-2. Libido was no issue throughout the 4weeks. Energy was good and same with focus. Lots of times i would think last reps then without think just crank out more reps. So i tried the first 2.5 weeks with a daily 2500-3400 and was putting on size and getting leaner as you can see in the pictures. The last 1.5 weeks i ate everything in sight and put on a good deal amount of weight. Currently im 212 this morning. I can't remember off hand what weight i started at but I think it was around 187. Trying this out i figure this stack is a great choice for both recomping and also bulking. There's no question on the quality of these products. For the price you pay your getting a good amount of product, but I'd suggest buying the larger bottle sizes because of cost effectiveness and well once you've done one cycle you going to want another run soon. This way you'll have some left over. I can't say there was anything bad with these products, as it did exactly what it should do. Keep in mind i was using a cycle support product and a bunch of other ancillary products to help my body against any sides. Don't expect the world in one 8week cycle, but with a few of these cycles linked between pct you'd be able to transform you body no question. This is not a sponsored log just honest opinion.
 
Nice final review bro. Mine is going about the same. Loving it. And I completely agree with you saying not to expect the world. I think a lot of first users expect some crazy miracle pill. You get out what you put in to it in my opinion. If you bust your ass in the gym and have a good diet you're going to get results, and over time it's definitely going to push you to the next level.

Glad you had a good cycle bro! Hope PCT goes just as good!
 
That's a good looking stack too. Everything said makes sense as to what should happen.
 
bringing this back from the dead.....got a few other products I might do a log on. So an update here i've been working like a dog the past few months, trying to train as much as possible. Well I went up to 235 then started tappering my diet down. Just got back from Vegas watch the Mr. Olympia that was once in a life time event. er at least for me. I'm starting to do a lil thing called abs I thought they were a myth but no they're real. maybe just maybe a lil cardio, but main focus now is now cheats and clean food. Currently im at 222lbs and hopefully stay the same weigh roughly just get leaner....once it gets cold im going to put my winter coat on and go for 250-260. Ill post some pics soon at 222lbs.....to think i started AM around 184 "pics in my first log" dieting down from 252 to now 222 and not that much fatter lots of progress has been made this year already. I've got a whack of supps to review.....
 
WAF said:
bringing this back from the dead.....got a few other products I might do a log on. So an update here i've been working like a dog the past few months, trying to train as much as possible. Well I went up to 235 then started tappering my diet down. Just got back from Vegas watch the Mr. Olympia that was once in a life time event. er at least for me. I'm starting to do a lil thing called abs I thought they were a myth but no they're real. maybe just maybe a lil cardio, but main focus now is now cheats and clean food. Currently im at 222lbs and hopefully stay the same weigh roughly just get leaner....once it gets cold im going to put my winter coat on and go for 250-260. Ill post some pics soon at 222lbs.....to think i started AM around 184 "pics in my first log" dieting down from 252 to now 222 and not that much fatter lots of progress has been made this year already. I've got a whack of supps to review.....
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put down the sandwich and pick up the barbell lol

glad your back bro
 
Leg's today, and 2nd session of abs and cardio when i get bored tonight. I've got a few more days off till i go back to work next monday. I'll get into what supps i have lined up soon. going to be a light weight high rep leg day.
 
Current supps I'm taking

-Animal pak multi's
-Protein powder "various too many to list"
-Various PWO's
-Triumph OL
-Endure+ OL
-Epic Unleashed OL
-Strength Unleashed OL
- Fish oil EVL
-ZMA + melatonin SAN
-MK-677 OL
-Cardarine "just started beginning of the week"
-Best Glutamine BPI "I might drop this for some Evomuse Strafe aka Elk piss"
-Forkosholin 95% PES
 
Welcome back brother! Solid natty stack you've got going there.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Welcome back brother! Solid natty stack you've got going there.
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Thanks bud, yah its got all the basics and a few goodies. I'm off to the gym can't decide what I'm training yet damn exhausted from work but that will never change.
 
So here's some quick update pics.

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got to resize my current ones I'll post them tomorrow I'm at 222 roughly
 
WAF said:
Current supps I'm taking

-Animal pak multi's
-Protein powder "various too many to list"
-Various PWO's
-Triumph OL
-Endure+ OL
-Epic Unleashed OL
-Strength Unleashed OL
- Fish oil EVL
-ZMA + melatonin SAN
-MK-677 OL
-Cardarine "just started beginning of the week"
-Best Glutamine BPI "I might drop this for some Evomuse Strafe aka Elk piss"
-Forkosholin 95% PES
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Mk you say. nice
 
So heres a couple of pics from a week ago.

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222lbs in this photo i've really cleaned up my diet the last 2 weeks and have drop now to around 215 or so last night, So as i mentioned in another post i've got some interesting news. Even though i know a decent amount about nutrition, supplements, gear you will never know it all. After much thought about it i've decided to get a coach. As it plays out I managed to get a hold of one I've been following for years and a big fan of. Starting Monday i get my new training schedule and diet etc from IFBB pro Antoine Vaillant. I'm pumped to see the finished product.
 
I hit chest today starting to feel my strength coming back. First time doing incline BB press since i tore my pec a few years ago. I've been doing DB presses since. started with a plate then I managed 21 with 245.... happy with that.
 
Well there's a reason why i after been on AM for awhile and it didn't take me long to realize things havent changed. Always curious on the keyboard heroes if they even lift.
 
Old blood and guts training tonight is back day tonight..... on a sad note i just finished my last Conqu3r sample :(


So ill be adding Origin to the mix once it arrives. New supps that are coming are super-dhea, super-2, slintensity, and a few more. Ill probably be picking up some super-11kt and some kings blood a few cherry berry triumphs. xtyler NoAddedHmones GNO NewAgeMayan Jebrook So i've got every OL product what would your guys dream stack and protocols be?? Looking for an very aggressive stack. I could list all my supps but i think most of you guys have already seen my stash of OL goodies and others. What staples would you guys run ie multi-v's fish oil etc. Curious on your input, as i'm planning my winter gainz and want to get a game plan happening....Thanks in advance.
 
WAF said:
Old blood and guts training tonight is back day tonight..... on a sad note i just finished my last Conqu3r sample :(


So ill be adding Origin to the mix once it arrives. New supps that are coming are super-dhea, super-2, slintensity, and a few more. Ill probably be picking up some super-11kt and some kings blood a few cherry berry triumphs. xtyler NoAddedHmones GNO NewAgeMayan Jebrook So i've got every OL product what would your guys dream stack and protocols be?? Looking for an very aggressive stack. I could list all my supps but i think most of you guys have already seen my stash of OL goodies and others. What staples would you guys run ie multi-v's fish oil etc. Curious on your input, as i'm planning my winter gainz and want to get a game plan happening....Thanks in advance.
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What is your goal?
Natty stack or...?
 
GNO said:
What is your goal?
Natty stack or...?
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LOL Natty er nope no natty for me please sir. Goal is to gain quality size not that much water retention, no issue with running gear also. Curious on if anyone would stack some gear with the OL products.
 
WAF said:
LOL Natty er nope no natty for me please sir. Goal is to gain quality size not that much water retention, no issue with running gear also. Curious on if anyone would stack some gear with the OL products.
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If you were to run a cycle you could run an OL andro stack or other PHs and throw in EU. Sup3r-DHEA as a base of course.

My ideal natty stack is OR1GIN + TR1IUMPH + DSU + EU and maybe TEST1FY with CU pre and ENDUR3 intra. This can also be a PCT stack with KINGS BLOOD, but would drop TEST1FY..
 
GNO said:
If you were to run a cycle you could run an OL andro stack or other PHs and throw in EU. Sup3r-DHEA as a base of course.

My ideal natty stack is OR1GIN + TR1IUMPH + DSU + EU and maybe TEST1FY with CU pre and ENDUR3 intra. This can also be a PCT stack with KINGS BLOOD, but would drop TEST1FY..
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ok thanks, i"m already using triumph dsu eu and endure+. kings blood was my plan on pct just wasn't sure if i was going to use any of super pct. so nothing specific comes to mind for andro's?
 
WAF said:
ok thanks, i"m already using triumph dsu eu and endure+. kings blood was my plan on pct just wasn't sure if i was going to use any of super pct. so nothing specific comes to mind for andro's?
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1-andro + 2-andro + LGD (if you have it)
 
WAF thanks for the mention:). My Dream Stack with current OL and OL UK products still on the market:

The Cycle(8weeks)
330-550 mg or higher Sup3r 1
500-1000 mg Sup3r Epi
500 mg Sup3r 2
Super DHEA-2-3 servings daily
Origin-label dosage
CU(stim free)
Arimacare Pro

PCT(4 weeks)
SERM
Ki1ngs Blood
Origin
Epic TD
Dermastrength
Triumph
CU(stimmed)

Post PCT(8 weeks)
Testify
Dermastrength
Origin
Epic
Triumph

I could never afford it but damn this would be fun!!!:dance:
 
Jebrook said:
WAF thanks for the mention:). My Dream Stack with current OL and OL UK products still on the market:

The Cycle(8weeks)
330-550 mg or higher Sup3r 1
500-1000 mg Sup3r Epi
500 mg Sup3r 2
Super DHEA-2-3 servings daily
Origin-label dosage
CU(stim free)
Arimacare Pro

PCT(4 weeks)
SERM
Ki1ngs Blood
Origin
Epic TD
Dermastrength
Triumph
CU(stimmed)

Post PCT(8 weeks)
Testify
Dermastrength
Origin
Epic
Triumph

I could never afford it but damn this would be fun!!!:dance:
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Thanks Jebrook......got it all except the origin and super dhea just waiting on it. Actually i have enough for a few runs of this. Any reason why you wouldn't use during cycle the following....

Epic TD
Dermastrength
Triumph
CU(stimmed)
Endure+

Also what kind of stack would you run using Super-11? Thanks for the insight.
 
WAF said:
Thanks Jebrook......got it all except the origin and super dhea just waiting on it. Actually i have enough for a few runs of this. Any reason why you wouldn't use during cycle the following....

Epic TD
Dermastrength
Triumph
CU(stimmed)
Endure+

Also what kind of stack would you run using Super-11? Thanks for the insight.
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As the OL resident 11kt expert I will chime in. For a simple, super enjoyable run I would look to do 8-10 weeks of 16mg Lgd and 250mg Super-11 ED. lowish dose some kind of base such as Super-dhea or Dermacrine.

When running this cycle I also used 1 serving of Ep1c Unleashed TD ED which I find significantly assists in my HIIT work capacity and volume workouts.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
As the OL resident 11kt expert I will chime in. For a simple, super enjoyable run I would look to do 8-10 weeks of 16mg Lgd and 250mg Super-11 ED. lowish dose some kind of base such as Super-dhea or Dermacrine.

When running this cycle I also used 1 serving of Ep1c Unleashed TD ED which I find significantly assists in my HIIT work capacity and volume workouts.
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interesting would you throw any test in there. Also curious on what other runs using Super-4 you had in mind other than the one i did the log on.
Epi-1000mg
super1/4-500mg

I like to plan runs in advance to make sure i have all that's needed and some incase shiat hits the fan. plus i've got a few to burn through. Thanks for the help
 
WAF said:
interesting would you throw any test in there. Also curious on what other runs using Super-4 you had in mind other than the one i did the log on.
Epi-1000mg
super1/4-500mg

I like to plan runs in advance to make sure i have all that's needed and some incase shiat hits the fan. plus i've got a few to burn through. Thanks for the help
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Ah if you have super-4 on hand then that would be perfect to use. I reckon 220mg would be the sweet spot to not have to worry to much bout E.
 
WAF said:
Thanks Jebrook......got it all except the origin and super dhea just waiting on it. Actually i have enough for a few runs of this. Any reason why you wouldn't use during cycle the following....

Epic TD
Dermastrength
Triumph
CU(stimmed)
Endure+

Also what kind of stack would you run using Super-11? Thanks for the insight.
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I most definitely use Endur3 everyday as a staple. Year round. Sorry I didn't specify that. I don't use EU to help with blood pressure because I use other things for that, though EU is certainly effect even on cycle. I go for cheaper BP control. I prefer non-stim pwo's on cycle also to mitigate BP issues. I did use SU on my last cycle and it helped my joints tremendously. The main reason I chose what I did was:
1. Not to sound like schilling every single product we have;)
2. I like to save some natty anabolic firepower (triumph/EU) for PCT when I will need the boost
3. With the mega cycle I listed too many more additions to the cycle itself would likely go unnoticed and lead to missed/forgotten dosing, etc. The compounds themselves would make for plenty of gains whilst saving the natty stuff to help keep the muscle afterwards.

And I totally agree with NoAddedHmones S11 suggestion.
 
I used 4 andro on my last run as well at 330 mg. It worked great as a base. I've always wanted try a very high dosed 1/4 cycle to see what that's like. I suppose I would throw high doses epiandro in there as well.
 
Jebrook said:
I most definitely use Endur3 everyday as a staple. Year round. Sorry I didn't specify that. I don't use EU to help with blood pressure because I use other things for that, though EU is certainly effect even on cycle. I go for cheaper BP control. I prefer non-stim pwo's on cycle also to mitigate BP issues. I did use SU on my last cycle and it helped my joints tremendously. The main reason I chose what I did was:
1. Not to sound like schilling every single product we have;)
2. I like to save some natty anabolic firepower (triumph/EU) for PCT when I will need the boost
3. With the mega cycle I listed too many more additions to the cycle itself would likely go unnoticed and lead to missed/forgotten dosing, etc. The compounds themselves would make for plenty of gains whilst saving the natty stuff to help keep the muscle afterwards.

And I totally agree with NoAddedHmones S11 suggestion.
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Great info guys thanks alot. NoAddedHmones and Jebrook

That sounds like an interesting stack i've got to try NoAddedHmones

I love the EPI Jebrook i found i respond best at higher doses.

1. I know im already sold on OL products ;)
2. I never thought about that, I usually just tap into my inner rage.
3. Totally agree it does get hard to tell what is exactly do what and what isn't working. It's harder to trouble shoot issues also.
 
Looks like G, jeb and NAH have given you some good stack options man! So many ways you could go. Im always a sucker for having dermatrest in a stack myself.
 
Well i know 3 things now.

1- I'm still confused as f uck on what my next run is going to be first want to discuss it with my coach
2- I got my Training routine today and it looks....intense I love it. I can't wait to see what i can learn from an IFBB pro. Im getting my diet other stuff tonight.
3- I just found a sample pack of CU under a tub of protein Candy Krush I dont care what you taste like your strictly for the gainz lol Off to crush legs with the new Rob Zombie Album....
 
That was an intense leg workout damn and i love every minute of it. Lots and lots of sets, there was a moment at the end i almost tossed my cookies.
I'm very interested in seeing after a couple months to see if I've brought up any of my weak points. I think i wont weigh myself for a bit and maybe in 4 weeks see what im at.
 
Today is back and traps, looking forward to the pain. My new Diet sucks compared to Five Guys burgers lol. I can tell i've dropped weight already but i dont feel sucked out at all. Ill post my weight later but no progress pics for a bit. Lots of warmup set and holding sets with this new plan has got my nuscles pumped to a painful level.
 
Turkey dinner tonight means i've got to kill legs today. Snow is here had to put the winter tires on, it was going to happen anyways. My weight is fluctuating like crazy Thursday before bed 206 down from 222 now this morning 214.6 first thing in the morning. Wonder what ill weight after supper lol. My diet is on point right now im able to have 1-2 6hr cheat sessions a week. The new diet isn't that bad at all.
 
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