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VolcomX311 said:
I love grapefruits. Now that we're back on the subject of stim rejuvination, do any of you have any thoughts or knowledge about the use of Benadryl for upregulating beta receptors?

It seems to be a grey area from what I've gathered and dug through.
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Sorry, not much experience w/ benadryl other than to knock down the inflammation after I got skin contact dermatitis (From shaving then applying a bit of Sustain Alpha on my front neck. Oh boy lol, that's a story)
 
snagency said:
Popularity, schmopularity.. but you still get my vote. :p
EXCELLENT posting! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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HAHA, thanks Snag, there is some hope then ! :lol:


Hank Vangut said:
wow dragonfly, that is a scary post.
drinking too much water can kill you.....but i still take my chances and drink it anyway.
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Yes, only if the kidneys can't get rid of it which was my point. As to what killed the mice...I did. Joys of research.

Hank Vangut said:
exactly my point.
i'm sure most don't use so much yohimbine they start hallucinating or vomiting either.
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Most people don't get lung cancer after smoking a pack of cigarettes, or diabetes after eating a pack of candy. Most people don't know they have aneurysm until it ruptures and they die. Cancer is for majority an asymptomatic disease, until you reach the point of no return. These things have a cumulative effect.

Exactly like Irish said:

Irish Cannon said:
Okay, this is where you need to draw the line. I'm a stim-junkie, and I love them to death, but when you start having to double-dose, things have gone too far. Remember that your body is still feeling the effects of the stim, even if you aren't...That's how people OD, bro. While their bodies are still taking the beating, they have to take more and more to FEEL it.

I'd say take a week off stims, dose Reset-AD @ 3caps daily, and then get back on your Phenadrine with the addition of 12.5mg of Ephedrine.
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I just took my first shot at making bulk lean chili. Nothing special, it's not going to win any chili cook offs, but I'm more concerned about the macros then the flavors. Lean Ground Turkey, Kidney Beans, Red Onion, Jalapeno Peppers and Tomato Sauce, salt. Very basic, but pretty tasty.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I just took my first shot at making bulk lean chili. Nothing special, it's not going to win any chili cook offs, but I'm more concerned about the macros then the flavors. Lean Ground Turkey, Kidney Beans, Red Onion, Jalapeno Peppers and Tomato Sauce, salt. Very basic, but pretty tasty.
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Sounds good! I need to make some of this myself. I love chili. I absolutely love when I go to visit my parents, I step in the house, and my Mom says, "There's chili in the fridge!"
 
Irish Cannon said:
Sounds good! I need to make some of this myself. I love chili. I absolutely love when I go to visit my parents, I step in the house, and my Mom says, "There's chili in the fridge!"
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I just had some for my last meal and its actually pretty damn good. I can tell that if I make it again, I'd add a fourth jalapeno pepper.
 
I haven't logged in a couple of days, but I've been plenty active.

I weighed in at 202lbs the other day and laughed, I don't know what was up with that, I must have had one great cardio session or something. I'm consistently 204lbs, so I assume I was just extremely dry during that morning weigh-in.

Today:

AM Workout (Outer/Decline Chest)

Flat Bench x 4 sets

Hammer Decline Press x 4 sets

Hammer Wide Press x 4 sets

Hammer Dips x 3 sets


:usa:


PM Workout (Medial/Posterior Delts)

Bent Over Db Lateral Raises x 4 sets

Db Lateral Raises x 3 sets

Barbell Upright Rows x 5 sets

Cable Lateral Raises x 3 sets

Cable, One Arm Diagnol Cross Body Fly x 4 sets

I'm still sick and I shouldn't have worked out, but I rested the entire day yesterday, zero activity, so I felt I earned my double today. I'm still on Airborne, Vitamin C, Echinacea Hiroshima status.

Also, Phantom of The Opera came to the Pantages Theater, Los Angeles, Friday night and I took my girlfriend. It's not really my thing, but I can appreciate talent of any sort. Those singers have some some amazing voices.
 
snagency said:
Heyyyy.. that chili looks familiar.. :biggthumpup:
Nuttin wrong with the basics bro! Sounds tasty!
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It tastes too good to be healthy, that kind of scares me, but the ingredients I listed were ver batum what I used.

* 4 packets Lean Ground Turkey
* 3 cans Dark Red Kidney Beans
* 3 large cans of crushed tomatoes
* 3 Jalapeno Chilis
* 2 red onions
* salt.
 
VolcomX311 said:
It tastes too good to be healthy, that kind of scares me, but the ingredients I listed were ver batum what I used.

* 4 packets Lean Ground Turkey
* 3 cans Dark Red Kidney Beans
* 3 large cans of crushed tomatoes
* 3 Jalapeno Chilis
* 2 red onions
* salt.
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is that 4 lbs of grund turkey?

i think im gonna try to make this. possibly with ground chicken or beef. and only 1 jalapeno. im a giant pu$$y when it comes to hot or spicy foods.
 
rolandajoint said:
is that 4 lbs of grund turkey?

i think im gonna try to make this. possibly with ground chicken or beef. and only 1 jalapeno. im a giant pu$$y when it comes to hot or spicy foods.
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Not 4lbs. Foster's sells their lean ground turkey in maybe 1/2lbs packets. However, the lean turkey version is way too costly. Although I'm not a fan of lean ground beef, the cost difference is worth the degraded flavor. Lean Ground Turkey tastes very, VERY close to regular ground beef to me.

Maybe I'll look for ground chicken next time. The chilli is uber simple, it was my first shot and it turned out great.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Not 4lbs. Foster's sells their lean ground turkey in maybe 1/2lbs packets. However, the lean turkey version is way too costly. Although I'm not a fan of lean ground beef, the cost difference is worth the degraded flavor. Lean Ground Turkey tastes very, VERY close to regular ground beef to me.

Maybe I'll look for ground chicken next time. The chilli is uber simple, it was my first shot and it turned out great.
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and cooked in the crockpot or stove top?
 
My personal frustration is how expensive X-Lean Ground meat is up here in Canada (Which is the equivalent to your lean, or 90%). I wish I had my own grinder , b/c Boneless Skinless Chicken Breasts are cheaper!

Also got to love chili; quite foolproof. Great bulk staple for me; I need to get a slowcooker up here at university so I dont have to cook all my stews at home!
 
rolandajoint said:
and cooked in the crockpot or stove top?
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I cooked the ground turkey with 2 red onions in a pan. I put the tomato sauce, cut jalapenos and drained kidney beans in a pot. Once I cooked the turkey, I stuck it in the pot, stirred everything together and let it simmer for awhile.
 
So I'm taking seven days off of stims to revitalize my stim-ability. I'll be running 4 caps of Lean Xtreme and 5 caps TTA a day, including running Reset-AD and for bolics sake, 7 nights of 50mg Benadryl to test this Benadryl and its upregulating effects over beta receptors theory. In all due honesty, I probably need about a month off from stims to completely revitalize my stim-ability, but for now, this 7 day break is all I'm willing to do. I do have T-911 lined up for when I do take a cold turkey from stims lined up, but along with the T-911 I intend on keeping up with DCP and dare I say it, Non-Stim Hydroxycut, unless I dig up some other form of non-stim fat burner. Apart from DCP, AP and Lean Xtreme, I'm not aware of any other non-stim weight loss agents.

Of course my diet will still be on par throughout.
 
VolcomX311 said:
So I'm taking seven days off of stims to revitalize my stim-ability. I'll be running 4 caps of Lean Xtreme and 5 caps TTA a day, including running Reset-AD and for bolics sake, 7 nights of 50mg Benadryl to test this Benadryl and its upregulating effects over beta receptors theory. In all due honesty, I probably need about a month off from stims to completely revitalize my stim-ability, but for now, this 7 day break is all I'm willing to do. I do have T-911 lined up for when I do take a cold turkey from stims lined up, but along with the T-911 I intend on keeping up with DCP and dare I say it, Non-Stim Hydroxycut, unless I dig up some other form of non-stim fat burner. Apart from DCP, AP and Lean Xtreme, I'm not aware of any other non-stim weight loss agents.

Of course my diet will still be on par throughout.
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How's the DCP treating you?
 
Irish Cannon said:
How's the DCP treating you?
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DCP hasn't come in yet, I've been using TTA-500, which is a 1.5x dose of TTA in comparison to DCP, but that's it, no RK or anything else DCP offers.

DCP for me, is liken to my DTHC experience, everybody and their mama swears by it, and the ingredients make sense, so I keep trying and retrying it to see what all the hooplas about, even though I've been there multiple times. DCP is a great non-stim fat burner and an added element to an overall stack, but that's where I would place it, as a supplement to my supplements, not the main player.
 
VolcomX311 said:
DCP hasn't come in yet, I've been using TTA-500, which is a 1.5x dose of TTA in comparison to DCP, but that's it, no RK or anything else DCP offers.

DCP for me, is liken to my DTHC experience, everybody and their mama swears by it, and the ingredients make sense, so I keep trying and retrying it to see what all the hooplas about, even though I've been there multiple times. DCP is a great non-stim fat burner and an added element to an overall stack, but that's where I would place it, as a supplement to my supplements, not the main player.
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Ok, I gotcha. Thanks for saving me $36. :lol:
 
VolcomX311 said:
DCP hasn't come in yet, I've been using TTA-500, which is a 1.5x dose of TTA in comparison to DCP, but that's it, no RK or anything else DCP offers.

DCP for me, is liken to my DTHC experience, everybody and their mama swears by it, and the ingredients make sense, so I keep trying and retrying it to see what all the hooplas about, even though I've been there multiple times. DCP is a great non-stim fat burner and an added element to an overall stack, but that's where I would place it, as a supplement to my supplements, not the main player.
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I agree it's hard to state how effective it is solo. I do fasted cardio now with it, AP and Leviathan Reloaded, and sure I am cutting up, but that happens anyways. I bought it like Sam said for the science, but I think it is something that can be omitted if you're tight on $$.
 
Steveoph said:
I agree it's hard to state how effective it is solo. I do fasted cardio now with it, AP and Leviathan Reloaded, and sure I am cutting up, but that happens anyways. I bought it like Sam said for the science, but I think it is something that can be omitted if you're tight on $$.
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Ok. I'm trying my hardest to get back to the basics anyways, so this is good info.
 
One of the prime elements of DCP you may consider, IC, is the ability to take it right before bed, which may or may not augment your fasted AM protocol, however, taking DCP before your fasted AM protocol should in theory, greatly enhance the energy and fat burn. As DCP "should" be priming your body for fat oxidation.

I'm with Steveo, in that if $$ is tight, then save it, on the other hand, "in theory" DCP makes a whole lot of sense for fasted AM training, as we are relying on the bodies fat oxidation mode to drive the workout, which DCP "is suppose to do."
 
I was 200lbs this morning :usa:


Another 5lbs and my abs should begin to become more apparent. Like many of us, my abdominal fat tends to gather at the very bottom, so I've got a 2Pac Shakur going on, I might need to drop a whole another 10lbs for my bottom abs and hip lines to come out.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ok. I'm trying my hardest to get back to the basics anyways, so this is good info.
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If by getting back to basics you mean minimizing supplement intake, may I suggest an option that would still serve your purposes of cutting, while cutting down on supplement intake by 3/4.

- AP in the AM
- Recreate in the AM
- DCP in the AM

and that's it. Just take supplements that would maximize and facilitate your AM fasted training and then go Supp Vegan the rest of the day.
 
Irish Cannon said:
You're dicing up quick, bro! I haven't even been watching my weight too closely. I have no idea what it is. Mayyybe 173-174.
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My diet has been pretty on-point and I've had such a voluminous amount of activity with double, triple training days, but my school schedule is back on, so I'll be limited back down to one, maaaaaybe two workout sessions a day, thus, my weight loss will sure slow down :sad3:
 
Slooowwww and steady. You can only keep up rapid weight-loss for a short while before losing mass, you know that. It's probably better you slow down.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Slooowwww and steady. You can only keep up rapid weight-loss for a short while before losing mass, you know that. It's probably better you slow down.
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That's true. I suppose I should be looking at 1-2lbs per week at this point. I dropped 11-15lbs in 3 weeks I think. 3 weeks sounds too short, 21 days sounds better.
 
VolcomX311 said:
That's true. I suppose I should be looking at 1-2lbs per week at this point. I dropped 11-15lbs in 3 weeks I think. 3 weeks sounds too short, 21 days sounds better.
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Woozers bat man! Thats some serious weight loss. I would be afraid of musle wasting at that rate. Slowwer down. what is your cardio regiment lately?
 
hman85 said:
Woozers bat man! Thats some serious weight loss. I would be afraid of musle wasting at that rate. Slowwer down. what is your cardio regiment lately?
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Fasted AM cardio or night cardio, sometimes both, but my upcoming schedule won't allow that anymore :sad3:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Fasted AM cardio or night cardio, sometimes both, but my upcoming schedule won't allow that anymore :sad3:
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What kind is it HIIT? Also how much do you do at night? i have heard that doing HIIT cardio after your last meal can make a large jump in your GH and Test level and also burns fat throughout the night. I have tried this a couple times but it keeps me up.
 
hman85 said:
What kind is it HIIT? Also how much do you do at night? i have heard that doing HIIT cardio after your last meal can make a large jump in your GH and Test level and also burns fat throughout the night. I have tried this a couple times but it keeps me up.
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Both, sometimes I go run, sometimes I'll do the, stairstepper or stairclimber, sometimes I'll do HIIT sprints on a field or HIIT on the treadmill.

I prefer the stairclimber for some odd reason.

Doing HIIT after your last meal of the day is pretty hardcore :usa:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Both, sometimes I go run, sometimes I'll do the, stairstepper or stairclimber, sometimes I'll do HIIT sprints on a field or HIIT on the treadmill.

I prefer the stairclimber for some odd reason.

Doing HIIT after your last meal of the day is pretty hardcore :usa:
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This is an AWESOME idea!...and it works PERFECT for my schedule! Hmmmm.....That would be insane. I think I might try it. Hahaha
 
VolcomX311 said:
I was 200lbs this morning :usa:


Another 5lbs and my abs should begin to become more apparent. Like many of us, my abdominal fat tends to gather at the very bottom, so I've got a 2Pac Shakur going on, I might need to drop a whole another 10lbs for my bottom abs and hip lines to come out.
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Are you carb cycling or anything? Lean extreme should help with the ab fat.
 
VolcomX311 said:
That's true. I suppose I should be looking at 1-2lbs per week at this point. I dropped 11-15lbs in 3 weeks I think. 3 weeks sounds too short, 21 days sounds better.
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Hman beat me to the punch. It is inherently impossible to lose 11-15 lbs. of bodyfat only, within the span of 3 weeks. The first pounds to go will be water-weight. No biggie there. But afterwards, you're going to be losing hard-earned muscle mass along with some bodyfat at the rate you're reducing.
Take it from me. I did some things wrong on my recomp. I cut calories too drastically during the first 2 weeks in hopes of seeing rapid results. I saw those results. A skinny-looking Thundergod staring back at me from the mirror! :thumbsdown:
I have since rectified this situation by increasing protein and fats significantly. I've even increased a few good carbs like oats and sweet potatoes. I am now larger and leaner in just 2 weeks into the new diet. :arms:
You put too much hard work into building muscle just to waste it away in an effort to quickly lose bodyfat.
Proper weight-loss is a slow and steady process. :fing02:
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ok. I'm trying my hardest to get back to the basics anyways, so this is good info.
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Me too and temptations don't help ! Invalid Link Removed

So, I'll just pretend I haven't read all this ! Invalid Link Removed

VolcomX311 said:
One of the prime elements of DCP you may consider, IC, is the ability to take it right before bed, which may or may not augment your fasted AM protocol, however, taking DCP before your fasted AM protocol should in theory, greatly enhance the energy and fat burn. As DCP "should" be priming your body for fat oxidation.

I'm with Steveo, in that if $$ is tight, then save it, on the other hand, "in theory" DCP makes a whole lot of sense for fasted AM training, as we are relying on the bodies fat oxidation mode to drive the workout, which DCP "is suppose to do."
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Sam, have you done any BF measurements prior starting this cut ?
 
Yah really listen about the slow and steady, the more patience you have the more muscle mass you will preserve, you can gain mass while losing fat this to me is true recomp. A good recomp and you will lose no muscle. Weight loss is overrated, fat loss is where it's at. If you have a deadline yah you have to go on a straight cut and lose some muslce mass, but if you don't then why would you rush it. Self imposed deadlines in these situations are counter productive.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah really listen about the slow and steady, the more patience you have the more muscle mass you will preserve, you can gain mass while losing fat this to me is true recomp. A good recomp and you will lose no fat. Weight loss is overrated, fat loss is where it's at. If you have a deadline yah you have to go on a straight cut and lose some muslce mass, but if you don't then why would you rush it. Self imposed deadlines in these situations are counter productive.
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you sir are a gentleman and a scholar. :cheers:
 
"and if frodo didnt destroy the ring, goodness itself may have been lost"

haha god dwight ridiculous.

"hey mr shark. let me sharkpen your teeth and fix your fin"

"BYE!!!....suckers"

hahaha awesome
 
Danggg, where has my Asian friend been? Hope you haven't been done in by that bug you came down with..
Last I heard, you were grooving on the chili! :)
 
He got a third job at the market selling seafood. They make him wear a straw hat and say, "Confucius say..." before every statement he makes.

edit: maaaan. I can't use the Chinese smiley...and yes, I know you're Japanese, Sam...or at least I think you are.
 
snagency said:
Danggg, where has my Asian friend been? Hope you haven't been done in by that bug you came down with..
Last I heard, you were grooving on the chili! :)
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Sorry about the lack of updates peoples. It was my first week back at school and one of the MOST hectic. I've had about 3 "last semesters" and I've had to see my Degree Auditor and GE Auditor back & forth with the most simplistic of concerns just to be damn sure this won't be my fourth "last semester."

I made my bulk Snag Chili part deux last night.

2lbs 97% lean ground beef.
2 red onions
1 bell pepper
5 jalapeno peppers
3 large cans of diced tomatoes
3 cans of Red Kidney Beans

Although the turkey ground is much tastier then lean ground, I had no idea how different the macros were.

Lean Turkey: 7g fat, 12g protein
Lean Beef: 1.5g fat, 25g protein!

As expected, this weeks weight loss was much slower. I think I lost 1lb. I'm still sitting between 200-202lbs, I was 201.6lbs this morning. I'm still a bit sick, but that's because I continued with my two-a-days training. I think I'm about 90% over my cold now and today is a full rest day.

Furthermore, my Recreate and DCP came in and I'm actually going to take advantage of the post superbowl six-pack-stack this time. I believe in Recreate. I'm still figuring out how to best balance my schedule with two lifts and meals, between 1 full time job, 1 part time job and 9 units of class. I'll work it out, I actually had a more cumbersome schedule last semester, because ontop of everything I just listed, I also had a part time internship, which I am free of now.

I've been lifting more Snag style ever since my cut. Same weight throughout 3-4 sets and keeping my reps as close to 10 and above as possible, but it's psychologically detrimental to me, I don't feel like I'm pushing myself enough because I've always set-pyramided, whether strength or hypertrophy, I would set-pyramid. However, I've been at an aesthetic stale mate awhile, in terms of musculature, so I'll stick with this for a bit longer before I return to set-pyramiding, while keeping with higher volume in reps.
 
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