Volcom's Optimus PRIME Log

VolcomX311 said:
Pre PRIME Opening Exercise: Flat Bench

Flat Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
275lbs x 10 reps
285lbs x 8 reps
290lbs x 8 reps

vs

Most recent Flat Bench.

Flat Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
275lbs x 10 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
305lbs x 6 reps

vs

Strongest performance while on PRIME (Day 19)

Flat Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
305lbs x 5 reps
315lbs x 4 reps

Pre PRIME Opening Exercise: Lat Pull Downs

Lat Pull Downs - Wide, overhand
230lbs x 10 reps
250lbs x 10 reps
270lbs x 8 reps

vs

Most recent Lat Pull Downs

Lat Pull Downs - Overhand
290lbs x 10 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
300lbs x 8 reps
305lbs x 6 reps [whole extra set due to the performance of the previous set]

This gives an idea of "fresh strength," but it doesn't paint a full picture, as my stamina and overall performance was also greatly effected. The only routine that I have repeated throughout this time, which have remained "the most" non-ambiguous, are the first three exercises of my lat pull down days. This will paint a fuller picture

Pre PRME first three exercises.

Lat Pull Downs - Wide, overhand
230lbs x 10 reps
250lbs x 10 reps
270lbs x 8 reps

Lat Pull Downs - Close, Neutral grip
210lbs x 10 reps
230lbs x 8 reps
250lbs x 6 reps

Lat Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
190lbs x 10 reps
195lbs x 10 reps
200lbs x 8 reps

Most Recent

Lat Pull Downs - Overhand
290lbs x 10 reps
295lbs x 8 reps
300lbs x 8 reps
305lbs x 6 reps

Lat Pull Downs - Underhand
250lbs x 10 reps
255lbs x 8 reps
260lbs x 8 reps
265lbs x 6 reps

Lat Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
190lbs x 10 reps
195lbs x 8 reps
195lbs x 8 reps


I've had a positive experience so far in terms of performance. I could do without the lethargy, but as many of you know, the problem is being addressed and slightly resolved with a tapered dosage from 9 caps/7 days to 6 caps.
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Hope this problem gets FULLY RESOLVED with the lowered dosage, without compromising your lifting performance V :)
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dragonfly said:
Hope this problem gets FULLY RESOLVED with the lowered dosage, without compromising your lifting performance V :)
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Thanks DF, and your new pics look great. The quad development was definitely showing and you're looking as lean as ever.
 
Congrats on those awesome strength gains Volcom! :clap2:
You one strong son-of-a-gun.
Are you seeing any kind of recomp effects from the PRIME? I saw them on my first run of it and wasn't even trying to recomp then.
 
Suggestions!!!

Since the two stim kings are here, out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried Phenadrine + Ephedrine or Phenadrine + RPM, or TG have you ever dosed Phenadrine, Ephederine and RPM at once?

I need a one time boost for tomorrow morning. We're having an all trainers conditioning session using heavy lifting and power movements, it'll probably last 50 min straight of balls to the walls, anything goes, weights, jumps, pull ups, runs, but my cardiorespiratory is really weak at the moment, so I want to amass some good fuel for a one time Stim A-Bomb that won't kill me into cardiac arrest.

I have to my disposal:

1. Phenadrine (primarily germanium based stim)
2. 25mg Ephedrine HCL
3. 200mg Caffeine caps
4. 3mg Yohimbine Caps
5. Leviathan Reloaded
6. RPM's

I don't want to combine more then 3 together. The caffeine caps are obviously out, because caffeine is in everything else, but help a bruva out. I need a combination that will maximize performance, not lose weight.

This is serious business, I'm easily the strongest trainer there, but most likely the bottom of the todum pole when it comes to muscle endurance and stamina. All the other trainers are cross-fit fanatics, I've never done cross-fit in my life, but tomorrow I'm going to get put through the endurance and stamina grinder, so I need an ace up my sleeve.
 
thundergod said:
Congrats on those awesome strength gains Volcom! :clap2:
You one strong son-of-a-gun.
Are you seeing any kind of recomp effects from the PRIME? I saw them on my first run of it and wasn't even trying to recomp then.
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Thanks TG, no, no "notable" recomp effect. My diet is very baseline at the moment, its not geared toward gain or loss. I have gotten much stronger, but I look the same for the most part. I feel my shoulders have gotten deeper definition and my chest has improved. but my chest development is probably only noticeable to myself.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Since the two stim kings are here, out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried Phenadrine + Ephedrine or Phenadrine + RPM, or TG have you ever dosed Phenadrine, Ephederine and RPM at once?

I want to amass some good fuel for a one time Stim A-Bomb that won't kill me into cardiac arrest.

I have to my disposal:

1. Phenadrine (primarily germanium based stim)
2. 25mg Ephedrine HCL
3. 200mg Caffeine caps
4. 3mg Yohimbine Caps
5. Leviathan Reloaded
6. RPM's

I don't want to combine more then 3 together.
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I would go with Phenadrine, Ephedrine, and Yohimbine. And then go drive dem other boys into the friggin' ground!! Make 'em puke!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
I would go with Phenadrine, Ephedrine, and Yohimbine. And then go drive dem other boys into the friggin' ground!! Make 'em puke!! :head:
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Thinking about it, that may be the safest route, as any other combination may bring too much caffeine into the equation. Yohimbine for performance eh? I'll do some reading on it and see what pops up.
 
I'm thinking:

#1. 1 cap Reset-AD [general augmentation]
#2. 25mg Ephedrine HCL
#3. 12mg Yohimbine
#4. 4 caps RPM
#5. Phenadrine.

#1, #2, #5 are a must. My struggle is to whether go with Yohimbine or RPM.

This is just a one time deal, I realize I'm committing adrenal suicide here, but just once....
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'm thinking:

#1. 1 cap Reset-AD [general augmentation]
#2. 25mg Ephedrine HCL
#3. 12mg Yohimbine
#4. 4 caps RPM
#5. Phenadrine.

#1, #2, #5 are a must. My struggle is to whether go with Yohimbine or RPM.

This is just a one time deal, I realize I'm committing adrenal suicide here, but just once....
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Keep in mind if you overdose it will destroy your workout. It think you are already a freak and have a strong mind to get to where you are. You can do this, a little boost wont hurt but if you take it too far you will bust this idea and end up feeling like crap.
 
somewhatgifted said:
Keep in mind if you overdose it will destroy your workout. It think you are already a freak and have a strong mind to get to where you are. You can do this, a little boost wont hurt but if you take it too far you will bust this idea and end up feeling like crap.
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I couldn't agree more. I have ruined many workouts by being way over-stimmed. I just lose touch with rationality sometimes. It's the Berzerker in me!! :aargh::fool2:
 
No Cross-Fit, Just Blood Spilling Over Iron

:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:


Smith-Barbell, ONE ARM Rows
135lbs x 10 reps, each arm
185lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
205lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
225lbs x 6 reps, e.a. :nono::nono::nono:

Incline Bench, Double Db Rows
100lbs Db's x 10 reps
105lbs Db's x 8 reps
110lbs Db's x 8 reps :nono:

Lat Pull Downs
290lbs x 8 reps
290lbs x 7 reps
290lbs x 6 reps

Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
180lbs x 10 reps
230lbs x 8 reps
230lbs x 8 reps

Smith-Barbell, Rear Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
405lbs x 8 reps
405lbs x 8 reps

Barbell Front Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
335lbs x 8 reps
360lbs x 6 reps

This all trainers workout was suppose to happen at 8am, but I got a text at 7:34am that it was canceled, however, I had already taken my stims (Reset-AD, 5 RPM's, 25mg Ephedrine HCL) at 7:15am in preparation. With my morning open and my @$$ stimmed to the ceiling, you bet it was Back Day!

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I must say, having this much energy after being used to a general lethargy is brilliantly euphoric.

I was definitely getting hated on this morning. I went to a gym I don't normally go to, (sadly, it's a primarily Asian demographic gym and I go there when I really want to feel big, I know, shame on me for exploiting the stereotypically small stature of my peoples). Actually, it's a break from monotony. I frequent between 4 different gyms in different cities. I do have a main, but I have a tendency to be a bodybuilding vagabond.

Back to the hate, there is a group of 4 guys, they're not big, but they're not Asian, so at THIS gym, they are the "usual big boys" not this morning :nono: I would catch all of their eyes looking at me when I did my lifts and compared to what THEY were doing, pfffft :nono: At my main gym, they'd be incredibly average, but at this Asian gym, not only are they the largest, but also the tallest and they usually walk around with their chest out, much like popular, varsity football players walk around their high school campus. Very loud conversations across the gym, flirting with girls 10-20 years their younger. I have no problem with a pack of lions roaming their turf, I get that, but not this morning :nono::nono::nono: I eat first :nono:

I'm not being arrogant, sorry guys, I think it's the testosterone talking. I haven't done "Respectable" rows or a truly complete back workout in awhile. I didn't like doing an all lat pull down back workout as I'd been relegated to, due to injuries, but you work with what you got and be grateful for it. Back days used to be my pride, big deads and big rows, but then I had to do lat pull overdose for so long, so I felt good this morning hitting those heavy @$$ 225lbs, One Arm BB rows.

I'm sure I'll be crashing later, I'm still stimmed, it's been awhile.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Smith-Barbell, ONE ARM Rows
135lbs x 10 reps, each arm
185lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
205lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
225lbs x 6 reps, e.a.

Incline Bench, Double Db Rows
100lbs Db's x 10 reps
105lbs Db's x 8 reps
110lbs Db's x 8 reps

Lat Pull Downs
290lbs x 8 reps
290lbs x 7 reps
290lbs x 6 reps

Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
180lbs x 10 reps
230lbs x 8 reps
230lbs x 8 reps

Smith-Barbell, Rear Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
405lbs x 8 reps
405lbs x 8 reps

Barbell Front Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
335lbs x 8 reps
360lbs x 6 reps


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Oh-ho-ho.. niice!

I was definitely getting hated on this morning. I went to a gym I don't normally go to, (sadly, it's a primarily Asian demographic gym and I go there when I really want to feel big, I know, shame on me for exploiting the stereotypically small stature of my peoples).
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Happy New Year man.. get some rest after that madness! ;)
 
snagency said:
Oh-ho-ho.. niice!




:toofunny:


Happy New Year man.. get some rest after that madness! ;)
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Thanks Snag! I still won't be doing any Deads or Bent Over BB rows for who knows how long. After many attempts to return to these lifts and re-injuring myself, it seems my threshold for anything lumbar stressing is 245lbs, 315 MAX! Which are irrelevant weight for deads or BB rows. However, for one arm rows, I don't see myself exceeding 245 anytime soon, so this is a great form of rows for me. The incline double Db's rows are great, too, no stress to the erectors at all.

Happy New Year Snag!
 
Another variation of the Incline DB Row is to use an EZ-Bar: Slip the bar under the top portion of the bench and grab the plates on either side; row up with both arms and pinch at the top. Great for the mid-back!
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Another variation of the Incline DB Row is to use an EZ-Bar: Slip the bar under the top portion of the bench and grab the plates on either side; row up with both arms and pinch at the top. Great for the mid-back!
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Very innovative Invalid Link Removed. I will most definitely have to try that!
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Another variation of the Incline DB Row is to use an EZ-Bar: Slip the bar under the top portion of the bench and grab the plates on either side; row up with both arms and pinch at the top. Great for the mid-back!
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I've done that with the straight bar as well. We used to have a special elevated bench for that as well where we could do it flat.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Another variation of the Incline DB Row is to use an EZ-Bar: Slip the bar under the top portion of the bench and grab the plates on either side; row up with both arms and pinch at the top. Great for the mid-back!
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I find this is much better than a stadard DB Row. I messed up my back symmetry doing the DB Rows. Still working on evening it out.
 
Way to go forth and freakin' dominate big V!! I knew you'd be kicking some ass all stimmed da Hel out!!!
Now enjoy your New Year big man!! :head:
 
VolcomX311 said:
It's 5:45am on New Years day, and I'm up for work. Pity me.
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Good for you. That's a great way to kick off the new year, man. Seriously! I don't know why so many people want to get hammered, and start their new year with a hangover. "My New Years resolution is to lose weight and eat healthy...starting the 2nd because I'm going to be sooooo hungover tomorrow. lawlzlawlzlololol." :confused:

Not to mention...you've got a job! Lots of people don't have jobs, so you're way ahead already.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Good for you. That's a great way to kick off the new year, man. Seriously! I don't know why so many people want to get hammered, and start their new year with a hangover. "My New Years resolution is to lose weight and eat healthy...starting the 2nd because I'm going to be sooooo hungover tomorrow. lawlzlawlzlololol." :confused:

Not to mention...you've got a job! Lots of people don't have jobs, so you're way ahead already.
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I don't understand why they have to do it every weekend Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed

Nice workout Volcom, I'm glad you didn't opt for total adrenal destruction ! Invalid Link Removed
 
New Years Morning Workout

CHEST [flat/decline day]

Flat Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
275lbs x 10 reps
315lbs x 6 reps [this is the 6 reps threshold I intend to break]
315lbs x 5 reps

Flat Db Press
100lbs Db's x 10 reps
105lbs Db's x 8 reps
110lbs Db's x 8 reps

Hammer Wide Press
270lbs x 10 reps
320lbs x 8 reps
340lbs x 8 reps

Free Weight Loaded Hammer Dips
230lbs x 10 reps
250lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 6 reps

Hammer Decline Press
230lbs x 8 reps
230lbs x 8 reps
230lbs x 8 reps

BW Dips
3 sets x 10 reps


I've decided to stick with my split of incline press days and my flat/decline days, that way my chest isn't tax to hell each and every time. My incline days are no walk in the park or anything, I'm still pushing 275 on the incline bench and into the 400's on the hammer incline, but I can't push that much weight across the entirety of the workout like my flat/decline days. Considering the intensity of my routine and without cutting too much on the volume, this makes for a good method to prevent overtraining or at least prolong its onset.

I felt strong this morning, I don't normally have the energy or the gumption to go from flat bench to Db's (I do it on occasion, but its uncommon) but today I did and it felt good. For whatever reason, if I bench first, then go to Db's, I can still push 90% of my potential strength, but if I go from Db's to bench, my bench is shot.

Anyway. I was up last night pondering this whole concept of New Years. I'm not sure why people make such a fuss about it. If something significant actually changed or happened as the clock strikes 12, like your credit debt resets to a zero balance or you get some kind of bump in your checking or whatever penalties you may have are forgone, then I'd see the reason to go out and celebrate like its the biggest, most exciting day of the year. Otherwise, as for me, I've always just seen it as another day, but that's just me. I have no qualms with people who celebrate it, all my friends did last night, I just don't understand it personally.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Anyway. I was up last night pondering this whole concept of New Years. I'm not sure why people make such a fuss about it. If something significant actually changed or happened as the clock strikes 12, like your credit debt resets to a zero balance or you get some kind of bump in your checking or whatever penalties you may have are forgone, then I'd see the reason to go out and celebrate like its the biggest, most exciting day of the year. Otherwise, as for me, I've always just seen it as another day, but that's just me. I have no qualms with people who celebrate it, all my friends did last night, I just don't understand it personally.
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Yep, just another day and when I drank it was just an excuse to get drunk... that is all it is.
 
Geez guys, that's a depressing outlook.

Well Christmas might as well be 'just another day', and birthdays.. hell, why celebrate anything?

For me, it's a time to reflect, think about what's happened, reorganize goals.. see what worked, what didn't, what I want to do going forward..

It's symbolism fellas. Fresh start. Re-energization..

For alcoholics.. well yeah, pretty much every 'celebratory' day is a reason to get drunk. Hell, you don't even need a reason to get drunk! :drunk:
 
snagency said:
Geez guys, that's a depressing outlook.

Well Christmas might as well be 'just another day', and birthdays.. hell, why celebrate anything?

For me, it's a time to reflect, think about what's happened, reorganize goals.. see what worked, what didn't, what I want to do going forward..

It's symbolism fellas. Fresh start. Re-energization..

For alcoholics.. well yeah, pretty much every 'celebratory' day is a reason to get drunk. Hell, you don't even need a reason to get drunk! :drunk:
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I didn't need a reason... I needed an excuse lol

Hey I get the day off and will go out to a nice dinner with my wife. So I don't mind... I just don't stay up to midnight and yell happy new year. Reflection is what I do when I run logs and share ideas with you guys... Oh yah and there's lots of Football on...
 
I wasn't trying to be cynical, I didn't mean to come off that way, its not like I've never celebrated New Years before. Maybe its because I partied too much in my late teens, early 20's, so technically, I was having a New Years celebration 3-4 times a week.

I wouldn't quite compare New Years to a birthday or Christmas. Something actually happened on a birthday and Christmas, even without it's religious intonations, is a universal family time, which is significant. My mom makes a fuss about Chinese New Year, but that's very family oriented in our culture, like a Christmas, but I don't see the "significance" of a New Year. Didn't mean to be a downer Snag, i wasn't saying you shouldn't celebrate New Years, I just didn't understand the depth of the celebrity that surrounds it.

Maybe it because when you're young, you have the option to party and get drunk whenever, so any weekend can be New Years, perhaps when that is no longer an option, New Years will mean something.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Didn't mean to be a downer Snag, i wasn't saying you shouldn't celebrate New Years, I just didn't understand the depth of the celebrity that surrounds it.
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Nah, no downer bro, to each their own!

Maybe it because when you're young, you have the option to party and get drunk whenever, so any weekend can be New Years, perhaps when that is no longer an option, New Years will mean something.
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Ohhh.. so now I'm old huh? :smite:


Hahahhaaa! :lol: j/k bro.. had to give ya a hard time! :toofunny:
 
snagency said:
Nah, no downer bro, to each their own!




Ohhh.. so now I'm old huh? :smite:


Hahahhaaa! :lol: j/k bro.. had to give ya a hard time! :toofunny:
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Actually, the oldest person I know here is probably Irish, but in a good, mature way. A wise beyond your years type of thing.
 
I find that as far as holidays go it seems that the people with addictions most greatly benefit. Like Dreamweaver said it is an excuse to get drunk, eat junk food and do drugs. Awww cmon its new years!! Wasted, people make hollow promises about how to change and be better. After this pack im quitting, after this hangover im slowing down on drinking and after this $400 nutraplanet order im not buying supps for while.... lol.
 
somewhatgifted said:
I find that as far as holidays go it seems that the people with addictions most greatly benefit. Like Dreamweaver said it is an excuse to get drunk, eat junk food and do drugs. Awww cmon its new years!! Wasted, people make hollow promises about how to change and be better. After this pack im quitting, after this hangover im slowing down on drinking and after this $400 nutraplanet order im not buying supps for while.... lol.
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I've said the "this is my last big purchase at NP" line way too many time.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I've said the "this is my last big purchase at NP" line way too many time.
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Ugh, yeah, as have I ! Got another $200 order in; including two Atomic Meltdowns, so I'm stoked ! Gonna get my January cut on .. and some color on me before I go in one with the snow here in Colorado.

I've done fairly well, though, my last NP order was Nov 1st; $190 then .. adds up to about $100 of supplements each month.
 
Haven't we all man.. My favorite is: (to the wife) "But honey, this $500 order will last me 3 months, I've got everything covered; really, I won't need a thing.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

fast forward a month later, after I've found something that looks interesting..

(me): "But honey, this is just a fantastic deal.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

..and three weeks after that, after I've figured out there's something else I need..

(me): "But honey.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..
 
snagency said:
Haven't we all man.. My favorite is: (to the wife) "But honey, this $500 order will last me 3 months, I've got everything covered; really, I won't need a thing.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

fast forward a month later, after I've found something that looks interesting..

(me): "But honey, this is just a fantastic deal.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

..and three weeks after that, after I've figured out there's something else I need..

(me): "But honey.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..
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That's exactly how it goes. No matter how much you order, you will always find something else that looks interesting, or a fantastic deal that you HAVE to take advantage of.
 
vikinginc said:
Ugh, yeah, as have I ! Got another $200 order in; including two Atomic Meltdowns, so I'm stoked ! Gonna get my January cut on .. and some color on me before I go in one with the snow here in Colorado.

I've done fairly well, though, my last NP order was Nov 1st; $190 then .. adds up to about $100 of supplements each month.
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I'm hoping to get into a cut this spring. That's when I normally get bit by the cardio bug, where I turn into an obsessed cardio and carb nazi.
 
snagency said:
Haven't we all man.. My favorite is: (to the wife) "But honey, this $500 order will last me 3 months, I've got everything covered; really, I won't need a thing.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

fast forward a month later, after I've found something that looks interesting..

(me): "But honey, this is just a fantastic deal.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..

..and three weeks after that, after I've figured out there's something else I need..

(me): "But honey.."

(wife): ..looking at me, eyebrows slightly raised..
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Hahaha, classic. Except I have this same conversation with myself in my head each time I go through this.
 
Irish Cannon said:
That's exactly how it goes. No matter how much you order, you will always find something else that looks interesting, or a fantastic deal that you HAVE to take advantage of.
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Absolutely true with me. I'll be half way through a current cycle, when I suddenly start stocking up for the next adventure.
 
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