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Unreal's Guide to Superdrol

true that.
well, i guess the conclusion is this, who knows whats really going on. it's like watching a baseball come at you, but right before you swing, you close your eyes and hope you get a good hit or a hit at all. lol.
 
Painful Back Pumps All Day Long

I'm relatively new to PHs. Did a cylce of Havoc last fall with minimal side effects and modest strength gains.

Now I think I've bitten off more than I can chew with my brilliant plan to stack X-Tren and M-drol. Started X-tren one pill per day 14 days ago, then started M-drol one pill per day 10 days ago. About a week ago my back started to get so stiff and achey that it became painful to walk or stand for more than 10 minutes at a time.

5 days ago I added taurine, tyrosine, potassium to my cycle assist and milk thistle but the back aches continue. I stopped the M-drol 2 days ago figuring that was the culprit, but I'm not sure if I should continue the X-tren or bail on that as well?

Even at these low doses I've gained 15 lbs in the last 2 weeks. My pressing is definately up, but I feel so tight and stiff that I'm basically waddling around like a duck, pissed off cause my back is so tight. The only time my back feels OK is when I'm lying down or if I'm completely warmed up during my work outs. I'm thinking I should bail on this cycle completely, wait for a while then try something not so harsh in the future.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
I have had a slight cough before staring methadrol. It seems to be clearing up and i thought it was done when i started by cycle. Im am at day 4. Should i just continue my cycle as planned as i do not feel sick at all just cough up mild phlem during the day? Or should i stop, get 100% and start again. Is SD(methadrol) or phera going to crush my immune system or should i be all good to press on.
 
Kgtomcat, I've done 2 on 2 off and it went fine, but my personal preference is to run it for a good 4 weeks straight, and start the benadryl at the end of the second week/beginning of 3rd, continuing until I finish. Another option is to stack it with T3, which also upregulates the beta receptors
 
i have taken other test boosters and a few less intense phs. ive been taking finaflex 550 xd for the last week and my libido crashed to nothing at all. Even had trouble being with my girlfriend, it just didnt work. Is any of this a normal side effect? Also will it be better if i try a cycle of it again in a few weeks? i loved the gains it gave me in strength and weight put on 9 lbs in that week. i've started taking pct revolution made by the same company and lg's t-911 to try and bring everything back to normal. Is this good enough?
 
TheDarkHalf said:
They work on the same pathways. So your receptors will adapt to both over time. 2 on 2 off with benadryl is good. I wouldn't go over 120 mcg. Start low at like 40-60 to assess tolerance and work your way up.

AND I'm also sure there is a separate thread for this if not multiple....lets stick to the SD discussions.
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HERE! HERE! Why the hell would someone highjack a great thread on SD?
 
lilmeanie86 said:
i have taken other test boosters and a few less intense phs. ive been taking finaflex 550 xd for the last week and my libido crashed to nothing at all. Even had trouble being with my girlfriend, it just didnt work. Is any of this a normal side effect? Also will it be better if i try a cycle of it again in a few weeks? i loved the gains it gave me in strength and weight put on 9 lbs in that week. i've started taking pct revolution made by the same company and lg's t-911 to try and bring everything back to normal. Is this good enough?
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I assume everyone is different. I am experiencing shrinkage from just 10 mgs of SD. You should have your PCT & test boosters prepared in advance so start them if you are finished your cycle. I personally do not use SERMs. I use Formestane, Maca, Fenugreek, Horny Goat Weed.
 
not a good life choice lucly. as formestane is suppressive to your natty test and all the other supps do not help you recover at all. I wish you luck...

for all natty pct try the Test Recovery Stack by PP.
 
luclyluciano said:
I assume everyone is different. I am experiencing shrinkage from just 10 mgs of SD. You should have your PCT & test boosters prepared in advance so start them if you are finished your cycle. I personally do not use SERMs. I use Formestane, Maca, Fenugreek, Horny Goat Weed.
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I do not use SERMs either, mainly because I have never needed one. If I do not experience gyno, and I can kick natural production back to normal within 4 weeks, I see no reason to use a SERM. It is an unnecessary risk for me personally. I do not give others the same advice - do what works for you. If I really ever needed a SERM I would use it.
 
qwerty33 said:
not a good life choice lucly. as formestane is suppressive to your natty test and all the other supps do not help you recover at all. I wish you luck...

for all natty pct try the Test Recovery Stack by PP.
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Not sure where you got that info about Fornestane. Most of what I have read and experienced is that the lowering of Estrogen kicks up Test production to offset the decline. There are many very experienced members who love the Formestane tapered off as PCT, they just don't want to get into a bro-science debate since it really boils down to personal preferece. I used this exact protocol after a SPAWN cycle which really shuts you down hard.
 
luclyluciano said:
Not sure where you got that info about Fornestane. Most of what I have read and experienced is that the lowering of Estrogen kicks up Test production to offset the decline. There are many very experienced members who love the Formestane tapered off as PCT, they just don't want to get into a bro-science debate since it really boils down to personal preferece. I used this exact protocol after a SPAWN cycle which really shuts you down hard.
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x2. Foremestane, from what I understand, is a mild PH but does a good job of controlling estrogen and even lowering it as well as increasing your libido.
 
On cycle question.

I am day 10 of SD started with 10mg for 4 days then into 20. I was originally planning to bridge SD into phera starting wk 3. I am considering not bridging but running SD for ~30 days. What do you guys think? SD into phera for 5 weeks or. SD 20mg 4 weeks?

stats to date: Up 5lbs and lost few fat lbs, no sides but aggression / slight acne on face
 
bridge to phera is going to be a better cycle IMO
 
thanks for the input, can you tell me why you think so tho? my cycle would be

sd 20/20/20
Ph 00/00/20/20/20-30

is the phera high enough?
 
cuz 5 weeks is better than 4 weeks. Just like 6 weeks is better than 5 weeks, but with SD and PP 6+ weeks can be "pushing it"
 
agreed i wont go over 5. my my concern was that i wouldnt gain on phera but i would if i continued on super. but ill give the bridge a try. tomorrow is it 1st day with both
 
qwerty33 said:
agreed i wont go over 5. my my concern was that i wouldnt gain on phera but i would if i continued on super. but ill give the bridge a try. tomorrow is it 1st day with both
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I don't see why you would think that, if anything the phera will solidify your gains from SD...and could quite possibly even add to them.
 
You guys who've ran SD, on avg. when do the weight gains start kicking in?

Also, i'm asking the guys who were already built, not the guy who ran SD when he was underweight and gained 30 pounds from SD.
 
3rd wk is when it gets fun :yup:
 
RAZORBACK09 said:
You guys who've ran SD, on avg. when do the weight gains start kicking in?

Also, i'm asking the guys who were already built, not the guy who ran SD when he was underweight and gained 30 pounds from SD.
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I've been on it a week today. Everything else has been equal. I've put on 8.5 pounds as of this morning. I haven't got the calipers out to measure, but I don't think my BF% went up. I am 5'8" and started this at 172.5lbs. I'm now 181. I wasn't a hulk, but not a hard gainer either.

So far, I love the results. If it's placebo effect, it's a pretty major one.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
This could be the FDA or some other federal agency that you just gave an answer to.

The FDA is not going to make a case on a bottle of superdrol.

Nor a bottle of tren, a bottle of bold, not even likely on a vial of test. The man hours alone isnt worth it.

Please dont drum up drama with fear tactics.

Lets remember the facts, Superdrol is still legal.
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has anyone had great results using SD on a cut. What the best dose sced / how many weeks. I assume with carb cycling ect.. on the diet end. How would this compare to a h-drol cut cycle in your opinions.
 
qwerty33 said:
has anyone had great results using SD on a cut. What the best dose sced / how many weeks. I assume with carb cycling ect.. on the diet end. How would this compare to a h-drol cut cycle in your opinions.
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I found SD to be hell on a cut. It really seems to soak up all my blood sugar. I was light-headed a lot, and very lethargic! I'd advise you to not low carb it on SD.


...I've never pulsed SD on a cut however. With proper carb cycling that could be interesting. :sgrin:
 
rampage jackson said:
I found SD to be hell on a cut. It really seems to soak up all my blood sugar. I was light-headed a lot, and very lethargic! I'd advise you to not low carb it on SD.


...I've never pulsed SD on a cut however. With proper carb cycling that could be interesting. :sgrin:
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I think I remember Unreal mentioning that he cut on SD, and that it does a great job of nutrient repartitioning and helping some keep all their muscle mass if not add some while being in a deficit.

But then again, it could have also have been the case that you just don't respond well to SD or anabolics in general on a cut (unless of course you've cut with others and have been fine)
 
RoadBlocK said:
TRUST NO ONE when it comes to the subject, it will only get you in trouble.

Learn, teach, lead, think, question, answer, help, challenge, discuss, but never, never, ever trust.
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thanx man..I guess? lol. no I know what you mean...this is becoming scary :shhh::shhh::shhh:
 
qwerty33 said:
has anyone had great results using SD on a cut. What the best dose sced / how many weeks. I assume with carb cycling ect.. on the diet end. How would this compare to a h-drol cut cycle in your opinions.
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I have known many people, that had a great success cutting with superdrol. Dosage needs to be right to avoid the lethargic feeling.
 
Good thread.

A couple of questions, and it might make me sound like a 'tard, but oh well.

I read that you have to intake 1.5 gallons of water a day, but when I start my cycle Ill be using a GOMAD diet, thats a gallon of milk a day, its an easy and cheap way to getover 100 grams of protein and 1200 kcals in. Because of the liquid form of the milk,which I assume contains water that the cows have consumed, does this mean that I now only need to drink half a gallon of water and drinking 1.5 could lead to over-hydration? (Im not sure what you call it)

Or will I be fine drinking a gallon of milk and 1.5 gallons of water?

Secondly I injuried myself right before I was previously going to start cycling and laid of the resistance training for a few weeks, I upped the cardio, but deiceded not to change my eating routine as I didnt think Id be out as long as I was and didnt want to go back to working out without the fuel in the muscles so to speak. Well that put me on a nice lil gut which I plan on cutting before I start cycling, Im on keto at the moment and will be until I get down to 10%, can I star cycling straight after or do I need some time to readjust to the increased carb levels? Ex, If I stop the cutting on a Fri can I start the cycle the following monday, or do I wait a week or two?

Thanks

EDIT; BTW my weight at the mo is 173, not 154
 
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