TRUTHORNOTHIN'S UR SPRAY LOG .... THE RETURN OF "TRUTH"

[truthornothin]

Thx for doing this log. I'm on my second bottle and love this stuff. I've lost about 10lbs in a short period of time (3 weeks?) using Ur spray and a slight diet. Not sure what is Ur vs. external factors....but gonna keep rolling with it and see what happens. Ive used the other sprays by PA, the only complaint with this is the somewhat greasy smelly residue it leaves.

Thank you and good luck

You are welcome, I am have having a good run on this, actually went a little heavy on squats and my back is out. My strength I going up and I am leaning out

 

[truthornothin]

too late bro, he hates u

Don't hate the playa' hate the game

 

[T-Bone]

i gotta push this stuff more cuz i think its really doing what i expected ursolic acid to do. i personally feel its really doing something. i wanna see more feedback. if enough people get great results from it then it may take off

If it was released through Ergo that would get it much more attention since it would be sold all over the place and not just one website. Very few people know about prototype nutrition. Everyone knows E-Pharm though.

 

[truthornothin]

No, in fact today on pull-ups was able to do 23 in a set which is close to an old PR for me. Being 10lbs lighter certainly factored into it. Hard to say of it was loss of weight or Ur, probably both.

Truthornothin - sorry not trying to hijack thread!

That's no hijack, if it stays on point its all good if it turns into Green Coffee Bean then I'm F'ed

 

[tekno]

PA - regarding the leaning out your friend mentioned from the Pr spray...think it has something to do with pregnenolone -> progesterone conversion. According to Wikipedia...

"Also, elevated levels of progesterone potently reduce the sodium-retaining activity of aldosterone, resulting in natriuresis and a reduction in extracellular fluid volume"

 

[truthornothin]

If it was released through Ergo that would get it much more attention since it would be sold all over the place and not just one website. Very few people know about prototype nutrition. Everyone knows E-Pharm though.

T-Bone !! I was wonderin' when you'd make it to the party. There are reasons not to got to E-PHARM up front, financial logistical etc Pat knows what he's doin'

Good to have you following

 

[truthornothin]

PA - regarding the leaning out your friend mentioned from the Pr spray...think it has something to do with pregnenolone -> progesterone conversion. According to Wikipedia...

"Also, elevated levels of progesterone potently reduce the sodium-retaining activity of aldosterone, resulting in natriuresis and a reduction in extracellular fluid volume"

ok now your hijacking my thread lol

 

[Cool]

So we are saying this one DOESN'T suck?

 

[truthornothin]

So we are saying this one DOESN'T suck?

We are saying this one seems to overcome the bio availability issue for most.

 

[T-Bone]

The other one doesn't suck either, you just have to take a lot of it. Truth likes the original also.

 

[Patrick Arnold]

If it was released through Ergo that would get it much more attention since it would be sold all over the place and not just one website. Very few people know about prototype nutrition. Everyone knows E-Pharm though.

well of course that is true. however the product is too expensive to make to sell on epharm cuz epharm has to go through distributors and all that. and also too expensive for us because the raws are not cheap and we can only afford to buy small amounts of raws at a time

 

[Patrick Arnold]

PA - regarding the leaning out your friend mentioned from the Pr spray...think it has something to do with pregnenolone -> progesterone conversion. According to Wikipedia...

"Also, elevated levels of progesterone potently reduce the sodium-retaining activity of aldosterone, resulting in natriuresis and a reduction in extracellular fluid volume"

thats a thought

i dont think the conversion to progesterone should be great but it will convert

 

[Patrick Arnold]

So we are saying this one DOESN'T suck?

that hurts

 

[IronFanatic]

Fire him PA!!!! *jk! No worries mate. I appreciate your honesty. I suppose things get lost in translation over the net. Looking forward to trying ur spray.

 

[truthornothin]

Fire him PA!!!! *jk! No worries mate. I appreciate your honesty. I suppose things get lost in translation over the net. Looking forward to trying ur spray.

Its truthornothing its more than a name its my philosophy accept nothing less give nothing less

 

[truthornothin]

The other one doesn't suck either, you just have to take a lot of it. Truth likes the original also.

True that, the spray just works faster and better. I still buy Ursobolic, yes buy it, Won't use it until after this log is over then I intend to run both.

 

[truthornothin]

06/01/2012 A day late

Supplementation:


UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
Testforce2 2 scoops
Multivitamin
Supplemental C
5 grams Citrulline Malate
5 grams Beta Alanine
Potassium
Calcium
5 grams Taurine
1 gram Histidine

Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info




Diet :

Breakfast:
4 whole eggs
4.5 ounces pork sausage cooked weight
6 cups coffee
1/4 cup

Meal 2:
8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz pepper jack cheese

Meal:3

8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal 4:

5 hardboiled eggs
2Tblsp's Mayo with 1 tsp thermogenesauce
1 oz muenster cheese

Meal 5:

8oz Ribeye
3 tblsp Blue Cheese Dressing


Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
1 oz pork rinds
2 tblsp mayo

Preworkout: Clearshot 30ml

Work out:

Legs:

Squats:

!35x20x1, 225x20x1, 275x15x1, 315x10x1, 365x5x1x OWWW! Freaking hurt my back then foolishly 315x8x1, 315x6x5 Ow, OW and OWW! Tried to adjust the load at the bottom of a rep and tweaked my back

Leg Pressesyes I continued)

500x15x2, 600x15x2, 700x12x2

Leg Extensions: 145x20x1, 165x20x3, 170x15x2

Standing Leg Curls: 110x12x2, 120x10x2, 130x8x2

Standing Calf Raises: 4x12x12

Seated Calf Raises 110x3x12

Observations:
I was very stupid the correct thing to have done after tweaking my back was to leave immediately. Instead I continued on and today I can barely walk. It has eased a little. I was strong and the squat routine was off to a good start. The rest of my workout was not my best because my back was nagging me the whole time

 

[truthornothin]

6/2/2012 Update and Progress Pics

Supplementation:

UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
Testforce2 2 scoops
Multivitamin
Supplemental C
5 grams Citrulline Malate
5 grams Beta Alanine
Potassium
Calcium
5 grams Taurine
1 gram Histidine

Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

Diet :

Breakfast:
4 eggs over easy
1 oz Cheddar Cheese
4. ounces pork sausage cooked weight
6 cups coffee
1/4 cup heavy cream

Meal 2:
8 oz ground Turkey Burger
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz swiss cheese

Meal:3

8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal 4:

12oz Chopped steak
2oz cheddar cheese two strips bacon

Meal 5:

10 oz ground Turkey burger
2 celery sticks
1 oz cream cheese


Snack 3 hardboiled eggs
1 oz pork rinds
2 tblsp mayo

Workout:

Day off


Observations:

Back killing me all day from the idiocy of yesterday, At least its hurting less today. I am noticibly leaner that last week but I'll let you guys be the judge of that. So here are the pics



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[truthornothin]

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For ease of comparison here are the original pics

 

[truthornothin]

I think the love handle reduction is nothing short of amazing in a weeks time, those are compression shorts and emphasize the lovies they have shrunk considerably

 

[truthornothin]

Shoulda' took the pic's this morning look leaner but I always do in the am, but since I took the first set at night its a more accurate representation

 

[Patrick Arnold]

what is the bodyweight change

 

[truthornothin]

what is the bodyweight change

I was 215 the day I started, see log , on 5/28 I was 212, and yesterday still 212, so a net loss of 3 lbs which ceased on 5/28 and now just leaner weight is the same

 

[Patrick Arnold]

I was 215 the day I started, see log , on 5/28 I was 212, and yesterday still 212, so a net loss of 3 lbs which ceased on 5/28 and now just leaner weight is the same

thats great

 

[truthornothin]

thats great

Makes me happy, trade fat weight for muscle weight? good trade

 

[tekno]

Good work man. Just ordered 3 more bottles myself. Need to stock up before its sold out. Real results in short amount of time.

 

[truthornothin]

Good work man. Just ordered 3 more bottles myself. Need to stock up before its sold out. Real results in short amount of time.

Thanks, I am 47 yrs old and have noticed its harder to get rid of the fat after a bulk, I must say I am surprised myself at the progress made after only seven days, as the actuall weight lost is minimal, this is a hell of a recomp

 

[truthornothin]

6/03/2012

Supplementation:

UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
Testforce2 2 scoops
Multivitamin
Supplemental C
5 grams Citrulline Malate
5 grams Beta Alanine
Potassium
Calcium
5 grams Taurine
1 gram Histidine

Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

Diet :

Breakfast:
14oz Ribeye Steak(delicious steak fat and all fork cut tender)
6 cups coffee
1/2 cup heavy cream

Meal 2:
4 eggs
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal:3

6 whole eggs scrambled
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal 4:

12oz turkey leg roasted
1 cup spring salad greens 4tbl Bleu Cheese salad dressing
2 celery sticks
1 oz cream cheese

Meal 5:

3 hardboiled eggs
2 celery sticks
1 oz cream cheese


Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
1 oz pork rinds
2 tblsp mayo

No Workout due to back injury:

Observations: Back injuries suck! It is feeling a lot better been Jointforcing it, that stuff is a miracle for those of you that have not tried it. Regarding the UR spray. Still leaning out and eating a crap load of food. Even though I don't want to, except for the steak. I grilled to a nice rare then cut the fat off and grilled it while I ate the rest until it was nice and crispy The $hit was damn delicious, the steak was fork cut tender and the fat was my crispy desert lol. I feel even leaner today, the mirror says likewise but my scale says, the first three pound is the only three pounds I have lost, still 212. Perfectly fine with me, I'd rather cut by re comp than weight loss any day. It means I am not losing muscle...just fat. Like with ursocolic I've noticed that my body and face hair are growing at an accelerated rate. Shaving a lot. The hair on my head, I am applying the spray there since I am bald and it is a capillary rich area. If it grows hair ... well then that's another story altogether. The varicose vein reduction seems to have been a fluke as my ankle is back to being the same. Oh well. Hopefully my back will be good enough for me to at least get a machine workout in.

 

[howwedo107]

Deff picking some of this up after I pay my yearly car insurance bro! Looking damn lean

 

[truthornothin]

Deff picking some of this up after I pay my yearly car insurance bro! Looking damn lean

I am not happy with my current state of un-leaness, but am happy with the progress, I just hope that my back feels better in the am. I wanna' hit the weights HARD tomorrow. How is the tonsillitis?

 

[mattrag]

Man nice pics!! Lol. Hard to keep up here on the app but I'll try lol.
Nice diet as well. I'll be running a pretty mean cycle to gain some strength in lacking areas. No log though.
My return to Hawaii is coming fast and I need to be in shape!!

 

[Cool]

When did you start the keto diet? How much of your body comp change do you contribute to that as opposed to teh spray? BTW, your diet is incredible. If I had the will power to eat that way I'd wouldn't spend nearly as much on supps.

 

[truthornothin]

Man nice pics!! Lol. Hard to keep up here on the app but I'll try lol.
Nice diet as well. I'll be running a pretty mean cycle to gain some strength in lacking areas. No log though.
My return to Hawaii is coming fast and I need to be in shape!!

You mean the phone app? my strength continues to go up despite the dieting. When do you get back to Hawaii?

 

[mattrag]

You mean the phone app? my strength continues to go up despite the dieting. When do you get back to Hawaii?

Last week in July I go back.
Yea the iPhone app.
Man you are my hero though. 47 and moving massive weight and looking like a champ.

 

[truthornothin]

When did you start the keto diet? How much of your body comp change do you contribute to that as opposed to teh spray?

I could be like Pat and tell you to search the log its in there, but you'll see in the open entry I started keto about a week prior. Previously when I attempted a keto diet I did indeed lose fat but I lost muscle as well, I just kind of shrunk unilaterally. As you can see from the pics I'm gettin noticable leaner but the weight loss has stymied, not a problem for me weight loss is not what I am after. I want to hold onto as much bulk as possible. I've only run a strict keto diet twice, I usually just cut carbs and calories as you can see here my calories are not in anyway restricted the first time I ran a Keto diet I looked like this ...well actually I gain about another 30 pounds but I dont have a shirt off picture of it ...thank God

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I lost 100lbs in 2 months and dropped all the way to 185 before I could turn the weightloss around. That's right I kept throwing in carbs but kept losing. I was working out but still lost a lot of muscle, I was a skinny 185. The difference here is my weight loss has stopped. I have weighed 212 since Wed I think yet my love handles are much reduced and I am generally leaner all way around. When I have keto'ed the other two times the weight loss was constant. It was as if I was melting. So as far as recomp goes, I cannot say the keto isn't helping. But its not behaving like it did before the Ur- Spray. That and my muscles are very full, stretching my shirt sleeves people at my gym have been asking me if I was bigger. Usually when low carbing at all my muscle bellies are deflated and I long for cheat days so I can fill them back up for vanity's sake. With the Ur Spray No cheat required every thing is full and tight like my GF's butt. So does keto help me lose weight yes, is there something different and better going on with the Ur-Spray yes. Oh and besides that Strength continues to climb, set pr's this week and have never done that on any diet ....EVER! weight loss has always equated to strength loss. Not so here. Oh and again, I don't do cardio, not a minute not a second, ever!

 

[truthornothin]

Thanks Matt coming from you that means a lot.

 

[truthornothin]

Just got back from back an bi workout, not a full on one as my lower back is still tweaked, still managed to get this mega pump even without carbs...Thanks Ur-Spray


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[mattrag]

Just got back from back an bi workout, not a full on one as my lower back is still tweaked, still managed to get this mega pump even without carbs...Thanks Ur-Spray

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Jesus that's a mean bicep....
Keeping you nice and full I see.

 

[howwedo107]

I am not happy with my current state of un-leaness, but am happy with the progress, I just hope that my back feels better in the am. I wanna' hit the weights HARD tomorrow. How is the tonsillitis?

Few days ago they were all swollen and had pus coming out well today they are almost healed...mega dosing vitamins FTW lol

 

[truthornothin]

Jesus that's a mean bicep....
Keeping you nice and full I see.

Yah! and with no carbs yet...I mean none. I couldn't even do my normal routine because of my back what I did was a sissy routine to me, yet my bi's were about to split open. I can only imagine what would happen when I carb up. Its gonna be a few weeks though. I may actually split skin lol

 

[truthornothin]

Few days ago they were all swollen and had pus coming out well today they are almost healed...mega dosing vitamins FTW lol

Sounds nasty, hope the recovery is swift and complete. I am in a very good mood today lord only knows why....my upstairs neighbors are total @$$holes....I'm sending them mental death rays as we speak inconsiderate mf'ers.. But I'm still smiling as I bang on the ceiling with my broom stick.......[video=youtube;1AUcMR4HT8Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AUcMR4HT8Q&feature=re lmfu[/video]

 

[mattrag]

Yah! and with no carbs yet...I mean none. I couldn't even do my normal routine because of my back what I did was a sissy routine to me, yet my bi's were about to split open. I can only imagine what would happen when I carb up. Its gonna be a few weeks though. I may actually split skin lol

Oh boy.. You staying straight keto for 6 weeks or so? Then having a carb refeed and hitting it again?

 

[truthornothin]

Oh boy.. You staying straight keto for 6 weeks or so? Then having a carb refeed and hitting it again?

I am thinking 4 total, My gf is moving in from Wisconsin to live with me and she is the Queen of baking it'll be hard to stay keto around her, Never mind I am already having dreams about pancakes drowned in syrup lol

Oh all visitors check out this thread read and follow the enclosed links and sign the petitions, Save our supps while there are still supps to save
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[truthornothin]

6/04/2012

Supplementation:

UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
Testforce2 2 scoops
Multivitamin
Supplemental C
5 grams Citrulline Malate
5 grams Beta Alanine
Potassium
Calcium
5 grams Taurine
1 gram Histidine

Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

Diet :

Breakfast:
6 eggs scrambled
1 Feta Cheese
4 strips of bacon
6 cups coffee
1/2 cup heavy cream

Meal 2:
10 oz ground beef 80/20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal:3

8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal 4:

8 oz Ribeye Steak
1 oz blue cheese

Meal 5:

6 eggs Scrambled
1 oz Jack Cheese


Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
1 oz pork rinds
2 tblsp mayo


Pre Workout:

White Flood
1 serving Clearshot

Intra workout

20 grams BCAA's
5 grams citrulline malate

Workout: My Lower back is injured but we are going to work around it.

Back and Bi's

Back:

Body weight Chins: 2x16, 2x14, 2x8, 2x6, 1x4 less than 60 sec rest between sets to keep intensity high,
Nautilus Unilateral Pull down: stack=250 4x12x =250 1x 10x 250, 1x8x250
Hoist Lat Pulldown: 150 x 10 x 2, 150 x 8 x 1, 150 x 6 x1
Supported T-Bar Rows- 150 x 6 x 4, 140 x 8 x 2 ,this it basically a t-bar with a seat and sternum support
Hammer Strength plate loaded row. 3 plates per side 12 x 2, 10x2, 8x3
Hammer Strength Mid back seated Row with sternum support 100 per arm x 8 x 3
Shrugs: 275 x 12 x 5

Bi's
No standing curls today, tweaked back will not allow

Seated Plate Loaded Preacher machine curls: 120 x 8 x 6
One handed Cable Curls: 5 x 70 x 12
Hoist Seated cable bicep curl machine 80 x 12 x 3
Biceps totally Fried, sweating and surprisingly pumped at hell. No carbs and pumped as hell, posted a pic of my post workout bicep, God I wish it always looked like that

Observations:

Look a lot leaner today than even in my last progress pics. I lost another pound down to 211, still a lot leaner than the 4lbs of fat loss can account for. Appetite non existent having to literally choke food down. If I could have a tasty stack of pancakes drowning in syrup that would be a different story altogether lol. Still loving the spray and frankly amazed at my results. I love my Ursobolic, but this spray.... even more so

 

[truthornothin]

6/05/2012

Supplementation:

UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
Testforce2 2 scoops
Multivitamin
Supplemental C
5 grams Citrulline Malate
5 grams Beta Alanine
Potassium
Calcium
5 grams Taurine
1 gram Histidine

Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

Diet :

Breakfast:
6 eggs scrambled
1 oz cheddar cheese
4 oz sausage
6 cups coffee
1/2 cup heavy cream

Meal 2:
8 oz ground beef 80/20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal:3

8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
1 oz cheddar cheese

Meal 4:

8 oz Tilapia
2tbsp Olive oil
1 oz blue cheese

Meal 5:

6 eggs Scrambled
1 oz Jack Cheese


Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
1 oz pork rinds
2 tblsp mayo


Pre Workout:

White Flood
1 serving Clearshot

Intra workout

20 grams BCAA's
5 grams citrulline malate

Workout:

Chest Shoulders and Tri's



Chest:

Incline DB Presses: 65 x 15 x 1, 75 x 15 x 1, 95 x 12 x 1, 100 x 10 x 1, 110 x 6 x 1, 110 x 5 x 1, 110 x 4x 1, 100 x8 x3(PR again, the last time the single set of 110's killed me. today 1 set of 6 1 set of 5 and a set of 4, Getting stronger on a cut, that's never happened)

Incline Plate Loaded Bench Machine: 3 45's an a 10 on each side x 8 x 5

Free Motion Cable Cable Unilateral Cable bench: 140x 10 x 1 150x8x2 160x6x 1

Cable flys: Challenging weight x 12 x 4

Shoulders:

Over head DB presses: 65x12x 1, 70x12x1 75x 8x 3

Free Motion overhead unilateral cable press: 100lbs per handle 4x12,

Cable Side laterals : Challenging weight x 10 x5

Tri's:

Push Downs: 105lb stack + 20lbs Auxillary weight 4x12, 105lb stack + 40lbs Auxillary weight (PR found way to stack more weight, could have done more felt almost effortless see pic Invalid Link Removed

Dip Machine 300lb stack x 6x5
Push ups 1 x 50


Observations: Even with a slight twinge in my back, that was a hellacious smoking workout. Killed it all attacked it smashed it smacked its ass and burned it down. Was pumped and blown up beyond belief and with not a gram of carbs in site. I am down another pond to 210 but even leaner than yesterday. I am going to eat more meat, I think I am not eating enough calories to support the level of ketosis it takes to run me, upping my protein intake. I am looking forward to this weekends progress pics if I can just stay on my diet. Appetite is still pretty much nil, but am thinking about all the carby things I cannot have non stop. Again I will point out setting pr's while losing weight. That is a good thing, oh and I am 47, PR'S amaze me anyway

 

[BigGame84]

I just received my UR Spray today. Any idea how much one bottle should last at 100 sprays a day?

 

[truthornothin]

I just received my UR Spray today. Any idea how much one bottle should last at 100 sprays a day?

2 weeks

 

[BigGame84]

2 weeks

Thanks. How long do you plan on running it for? I have 2 bottles right now and I am wondering if I should get another 2 pack...

 

[mattrag]

Killing the workouts man!!
I think you're getting around 180g protien (+20g bcaa) and 250g fat. So around 3k cals. For all those interested. Lol

Good for keto and you sure are getting loads of volume in there.
Hopefully I can afford two bottles when I get back home it'll be a great pct product I feel.

 

[truthornothin]

Thanks. How long do you plan on running it for? I have 2 bottles right now and I am wondering if I should get another 2 pack...

Right now 4 weeks, it depends on my finanaces. There is really no reason other than $$ to ever come off. If it continues to perform as it has I will push out my other standards to make room for it dollar wise