Trauma1
Legend
Yeah, the 4-AD should definitely help out in the libido department converting to some test.
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Yeah, the 4-AD should definitely help out in the libido department converting to some test.
Eric Potratz
Board Sponsor
Recommendations for doses just depends on the democracy of the forum you are on. Some steroid forums say 400mg/week test is ideal, others think anything less than 1gm/week is a waste of time.
Why do people only recommend 150mg/day? Probably because it has a fairly decent benefit/side-effect ratio that is comfortable for most users. But dont forget most of the advice you get on the forums is just recycled and repeated comments from 1 or 2 main outstanding figures.
Back in the day people would only recommend 5-10mg/day Dianabol, then people started running 40-50mg and nowadays its not unheard of to see guys running 100mg+ ED.
You dont have to run the recommended dose of TREN LV. You could run just 1mL 3x daily and see good results. We pushed the envelope because it was a limited edition product designed for dudes wanting to buy the strongest sh*t possible.
-Eric
Eric Potratz
Board Sponsor
I forgot you where running 4-AD with the TREN. That should actually help reduce alot of your issues with libido.
-Eric
bulldogz
Active member
I need to bump this....why do people say not to exceed 150mg of tren in pill form? (this is not directed to you PP)...anyone?
Trauma1
Legend
As with any designer these days you're getting your dosing recommendations based on anecdotal-based user feedback. So in reality, there is no way to say for certain what's going to be effective or not effective for any given individual.
That's the benefit of open forums like this to the bodybuilding community. It allows for information like this to be discussed to compare/contrast results and effects that were demonstrated.
bulldogz
Active member
I agree about the benefit of these open forums, but many on these forums say the same...don't go over 150mg ed...so I would assume they are stating this from experience...so you're (you're company) basically sayin forget what they say and still recommend 600-800mg ed?
Why wouldn't a company just recommend the suggested dose from user experience and let each individual contruct their cycle, but 600-800mg ed as a suggested dose from a company..come on bro....especially when they are young people tryin to take these and they don't know better
Other companies that I've seed who sold tren have a recommended dosage not to exceed 150mg ed, but PP has it between 600-800mg ed...I guess I just must be missing something in that you're company thinks it's ok to recommend such a high dosage...call me stupid...
Eric Potratz
Board Sponsor
We actually recommend a dose of 135mg/day as the standard dose.
If you factor in an average 3x better absorption in the LV formula thats about equivalent to 400mg/day in tablets.
Ive stated why we feel confident in the higher dose. We dont recommend our product to "young people" either. We make this very clear that you should be at least 21 and educated on PCT to use this product.
-Eric
bulldogz
Active member
Yes you do suggest 135mg as a standard dose...but even that is still 400mg of tren...imo that's way too much...but that's just me
Not sayin you recommend your products to young people, just sayin if a young person (and they will) get their hands on this and take that much tren ed since they don't know any better and just go off what's on the label, sheit will not be pretty...and many of these yound people don't know a thing about pct even with your trs...there is a 19 year old on your forum takin 1t..and for what..??
I know this happens more often than people think, but the kid just sounds real dumb when tryin to help him out over there. And, what scares me the most is when he said he has a "roid" guy that helps him out...what a douche bag that guy must be helpin him with PH's at 19...and the same kid also stated his 16yr old friend has taken 3 different steriods before without a pct...16..?!...wow..!
Listen Eric...I like your products and your technology, I really do and I'm all for the great delivery system to get the product into your bloodstream faster and what not, but I think the suggest dose (even 135mg in lv form) is a lil high...
Anyway...imo...2ml / 2 times ed will probably do it for me...maybe, maybe that same dose 3 times ed
MrBigPR
NutraPlanet Rep
Yes you do suggest 135mg as a standard dose...but even that is still 400mg of tren...imo that's way too much...but that's just me
Not sayin you recommend your products to young people, just sayin if a young person (and they will) get their hands on this and take that much tren ed since they don't know any better and just go off what's on the label, sheit will not be pretty...and many of these yound people don't know a thing about pct even with your trs...there is a 19 year old on your forum takin 1t..and for what..??
I know this happens more often than people think, but the kid just sounds real dumb when tryin to help him out over there. And, what scares me the most is when he said he has a "roid" guy that helps him out...what a douche bag that guy must be helpin him with PH's at 19...and the same kid also stated his 16yr old friend has taken 3 different steriods before without a pct...16..?!...wow..!
Listen Eric...I like your products and your technology, I really do and I'm all for the great delivery system to get the product into your bloodstream faster and what not, but I think the suggest dose (even 135mg in lv form) is a lil high...
Anyway...imo...2ml / 2 times ed will probably do it for me...maybe, maybe that same dose 3 times ed
Stop complaining then! You bought the products so use it how you feel. Geez...
bulldogz
Active member
relax big guy...I can complain all I want if I don't know who much product I'm actually ingesting...
MrBigPR
NutraPlanet Rep
True, but PP gave you an answer and you don't want it. There comes a point where you need to stop prying, seriously. Do you want them to admit they sold you flavored water or something? Just make your point and move on.
I don't here many complaints from PP customers, myself included. The only problems I seem to hear are from people who haven't taken their products yet "have them". Dude we get it...Invalid Link Removed
Trauma1
Legend
Yes you do suggest 135mg as a standard dose...but even that is still 400mg of tren...imo that's way too much...but that's just me
Not sayin you recommend your products to young people, just sayin if a young person (and they will) get their hands on this and take that much tren ed since they don't know any better and just go off what's on the label, sheit will not be pretty...and many of these yound people don't know a thing about pct even with your trs...there is a 19 year old on your forum takin 1t..and for what..??
I know this happens more often than people think, but the kid just sounds real dumb when tryin to help him out over there. And, what scares me the most is when he said he has a "roid" guy that helps him out...what a douche bag that guy must be helpin him with PH's at 19...and the same kid also stated his 16yr old friend has taken 3 different steriods before without a pct...16..?!...wow..!
Listen Eric...I like your products and your technology, I really do and I'm all for the great delivery system to get the product into your bloodstream faster and what not, but I think the suggest dose (even 135mg in lv form) is a lil high...
Anyway...imo...2ml / 2 times ed will probably do it for me...maybe, maybe that same dose 3 times ed
There are suggested guidelines for dosing in the write-up; the mechanism of action is also explained in the write-up; My own personal feelings are this: anyone choosing to use ANY form of AAS/PH/PS should ALWAYS start on the low end of any recommended dosing and make adjustments as needed to attain desired effect. Just because something is "suggested" doesn't conform every dosing pattern to be the same in each person.
We're all individuals that have the ability to make decisions based on the information that's presented and at hand. We've given you that information, now it's up to you to make a decision and go with it in terms of dosing. Anecdotal feedback is helpful in making these type of decisions, but ultimately even that is just something to take into account when making a decision; not necessarily an individual guideline by any means.
The truth is, nobody can give you the specifics about effective dosing in any given individual because there are no studies or clinical trials to prove or correlate them. This is true with just about EVERY PH/PS that's been released over the last 10 years. This is why these type of open forums are good for the bodybuilding community; they allow for discussions and anecdotal feedback to disseminate to those with these types of inquiries.
The bottom line is this: recommendations (without clinical trials to support) are often based on what is deemed to be effective/safe in the majority of users based on overall feedback. Nothing is set in stone, so always err on the side of caution and start on the lower end. My suggestion is that if you feel the recommendation of 2ml (3x daily) is too high, then cut that dose in half (1ml - 3x daily) and then adjust dosing as needed.
If you need help setting it up, PM me and I'll gladly help.
jcalvert86
Member
Anyone here that missed out on this deal?
Trauma1
Legend
Yeah, just need to put it all together. I'll post it here when I do.
Trauma1
Legend
Still working on it my man. I just have very limited time right now.
ex-tightend83
Well-known member
Check the Turinabol-LV thread. He's hyping that up now.
suncloud
Well-known member
nope. according to the FDA tren is a steroid, a schedule III controlled substance. you'd be asking us to site source. remember, if you decide to search, that possession laws are now the same as a vial of test, so you better trust your source implicitly...Am I even allowed to ask WHO still has this for sale (non-compliant companies only)
ex-tightend83
Well-known member
Excellent advice...or have a really good steroid attorney on retainer!
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
There are guys out there who still have some. I happen to not be one of them. :irked:
SimplyDraven
Member
I still have a bottle, but its not for sale. My first bottle treated me too well to give up the second.
My first bottle treated me too well to give up the second.
WIULifter
Board Sponsor
same here broski
ex-tightend83
Well-known member
Yeah, I was smart/lucky enough to buy two bottles when it first came out. I still have one left for a future run.
