Unanswered Topic of The Week: Do you worry about long terms effects of preworkouts?

[justhere4comm]

My daily usual is a quad shot grande with easy water, so basically 4 shots of espresso, but I believe espresso has less caffeine in it than brewed coffee. You get all the flavor but less caffeine. I believe my quad shot is less than 200mg.

 

[irone93]

Thats like saying you would see signs of heart disease in your 20's....

In your 20s you can get away with anything

 

[Hyde]

Not in particular. Everything has a cost. I worry about my entire lifestyle: high BMI, PED usage, injury accrual/joint degradation, subpar diet. The brighter the candle burns the faster it melts - it’s always a compromise of living how you want vs staying alive. The goal is to convince yourself that the things needed to stay alive longer are also what you want to do.

 

[Tommywantwingy]

Every morning I wake up, I like to make myself a hearty breakfast. So I go the the facuet and fill up my coffee maker with tap water(maybe containing some xenoestrogens and trihalomethanes) and brew a nice pot of coffee (now with styrene because it has leached into it from the coffee maker). I like eggs so I get out my nonstick cookware(pfoa) and whip some up. You need bacon too(dioxins,Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons). But that isn't satisfying enough so I make some oatmeal (glyphosate) and I need some fresh blueberries on top(pesticides). And that is just breakfast.

I don't think preworkouts are to much to worry about.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I think its around 2 when we look at the general population.

I don't think anyone in this thread said coffee was unhealthy in moderation.....its mainly about the stacking of these stims and long term health.

DMAA and DHMA are bit more than 200mg of coffee..lol

Believe it or not, my heart races and has more issues with high caff, than dmaa/dmha.

 

[Admin]

Believe it or not, my heart races and has more issues with high caff, than dmaa/dmha.

I don't doubt it, which makes mixing them even more problematic for some.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I don't doubt it, which makes mixing them even more problematic for some.

Why I like 200mg caff as the sweet spot for a pre workout.

 

[bb333]

But above all, the liver and pancreas, how long can they tolerate certain "chemical" elements that we ingest?
I'm worried about this. Accumulate today, accumulate tomorrow, and the organs are affected.

 

[SkRaw85]

Worried? Not as much as I should be. I definitely have to take breaks from stims when they have no effect. DMAA/DMHA is a love hate relationship; the pump, strength endurance and euphoria is quite intoxicating, as is the compound. But at the same time it completely zeroes my appetite post workout and force feeding isn’t my most favorite thing.
These days I mostly use PWO as needed, if I am dragging ass that day then down the hatch it goes. I’m sure long term use isn’t ideal but.... a tool for every job.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Compared to all the harmful toxins, recreational drugs, over medication, and hazardous chemicals we are exposed to, I don't feel that that pre-workouts will cause any long term harm or damage.

 

[Studhorse]

Don't really worry about long term effects.
Not going to lie. I like my DMAA but only use it 1-2times a month (if i have a makeup weekend workout). I workout in the evening and hardly use stims. I also drink coffee almost all day and don't need a stim pre.

 

[SkRaw85]

Compared to all the harmful toxins, recreational drugs, over medication, and hazardous chemicals we are exposed to, I don't feel that that pre-workouts will cause any long term harm or damage.

I hear that!

 

[SkRaw85]

Don't really worry about long term effects.
Not going to lie. I like my DMAA but only use it 1-2times a month (if i have a makeup weekend workout). I workout in the evening and hardly use stims. I also drink coffee almost all day and don't need a stim pre.

That stuff definitely grabs you by the boo boo

 

[bosskardo]

Coffee has large amounts of caffeine in it. What’s the huge difference ?

Other stuff in coffee and not just the antioxidants.
Also, coffee is a better performance enhancer than just caffeine. Decaf plus caffeine was nearly as good.

 

[bosskardo]

Wouldn't say that large, compare to the 300+mg in most pre's.

Even if you drink enough coffee to get the same caffeine content, you are still way better off than taking caffeine\pwo.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Even if you drink enough coffee to get the same caffeine content, you are still way better off than taking caffeine\pwo.

Depends on the pre workout.

 

[BloodManor]

190mg and its a normal large. Most don't buy the Venti....

Your average cup of coffee in the home is 90-150mg.

I see most people getting the grande - I go to Starbucks twice a day lol. I’m a venti drinker of even Trenta. But I feel like most people consume more caffeine than assume (especially the soda drinkers)

 

[Hyde]

Honestly I don’t think caffeine is really the subject of this discussion really - it’s all the extra stimulants on top of caffeine, that kind of make you wonder. People have drank a lot of coffee for decades and it doesn’t usually affect them awfully. But nobody has been testing 30 years of DMAA usage for us.

 

[SkRaw85]

Honestly I don’t think caffeine is really the subject of this discussion really - it’s all the extra stimulants on top of caffeine, that kind of make you wonder. People have drank a lot of coffee for decades and it doesn’t usually affect them awfully. But nobody has been testing 30 years of DMAA usage for us.

We are testing 30 years of dmaa usage

 

[Admin]

I see most people getting the grande - I go to Starbucks twice a day lol. I’m a venti drinker of even Trenta. But I feel like most people consume more caffeine than assume (especially the soda drinkers)

Yes but the people that go to Starbucks are the minority....the extreme minority of coffee drinkers. Most people brew it themselves. Its like doing a general fitness study on bodybuilders. lol

 

[BloodManor]

Yes but the people that go to Starbucks are the minority....the extreme minority of coffee drinkers. Most people brew it themselves. Its like doing a general fitness study on bodybuilders. lol

Haha true

 

[Rocket3015]

We are testing 30 years of dmaa usage

I'll let know when I'm 90 !

 

[Par Deus]

We will all be Tom Hanks in Green Mile from those.

 

[ItalOne]

I only use a pre workout about 2-3 times a week. I don’t drink coffee anymore but I’ve really gotten into nurtrabio Alpha EAA’s. It still has about 150mg of caffeine but it’s also has nootropics for focus, electrolytes and obviously EAA’s. Its a great way to get sustainable energy plus much more with minimal caffeine.

 

[Rifle]

Yes I worry a bit. I prefer a pump booster like full as ... for "daily use" (4 times a week). A HC stimbooster is my choice on hard days (long day at work/tired etc) or if i want to train harder than normal.
My mindest is much better now than a few years ago. I just do my work out. I would have taken a hc stimbooster on most of these days a few years ago. I'm much more motivated now, I always loved it but it was different. Maybe it was because I worked on building sides. I'm not working physical anymore.
I really love stims in general, but every year I get older I use them less. My wife wouldn't tolerate it anyway, 3 to 4 times a week, every week.
Of course no pump booster if I train my calves!