To Infinity.... and Beyond!

Dustin07 said:
Still feeling doms from deck destruction and Saturdays session.


Bench
2 x 10 x 95
3 x 135, 175, 210
1 x 240, 265, 285
2 x 4 x 255
8 x 225
12 x 185
16 x 135

Skullies
3 x 12 x 60lb bar

Seated dips
3 x 12-15

Tricep extensions
3 x 15

Hammer strength inclines
3 x 10-15

Life fitness chest press
3 x 10+

Cardio
20 min LISS

Not my favorite barbell today. Very spinny like an oly bar, no knurling, rings waaaay outside. Could feel it spinning on every rep.

Gym was packed so swapped machines where we could. Wife had one request on the cut, don't lose the pecs

Weight 194 this morning.

New protein powder coming in today for my evening "snack" looking forward to that.
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Gym I went to on Sunday for bench was like that. Really was throwing me off.
 
dapack said:
Gym I went to on Sunday for bench was like that. Really was throwing me off.
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yeah if I was cleaning it would have been nice but man, I could feel the thing spinning in my hands on the heavy reps. it was a bit more forearm strain than normal I think. The gym is so packed lately I wish they'd spend the money on some decent barbells or maintain the ones we have. still can only find 3 of the 2.5lb plates. The Tacoma gym has like 60 of them, but I typically only hit that gym on the weekends. this one is so close to my office its worth it to try to make it work for energy economy before the big commute home.
 
Dustin07 said:
yeah if I was cleaning it would have been nice but man, I could feel the thing spinning in my hands on the heavy reps. it was a bit more forearm strain than normal I think. The gym is so packed lately I wish they'd spend the money on some decent barbells or maintain the ones we have. still can only find 3 of the 2.5lb plates. The Tacoma gym has like 60 of them, but I typically only hit that gym on the weekends. this one is so close to my office its worth it to try to make it work for energy economy before the big commute home.
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Yeah I’ve left a couple of gyms over the years because they wouldn’t maintain or invest in new equipment.
 
Squats
10 x bar, 95
5 x 135, 185, 225
3 x 255
1 x 275, 300

Paused
2 x 5 x 225

Not paused
15 x 135

Back extensions
10 x BW, +25lbs, +25lbs

Linear hack squats
1 set

Leg press
2 x 10

Laying leg curls
4 x 10+

Leg curls
No time/machines busy

Row 2000m
Time 8:40
I normally do these as intervals but wind capacity and energy was fire today, so went unbroken, felt great.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You all have got to get better about just walking up and telling someone you are going to work in with them. It is in every single gym contract in the world that you have to share equipment and allow people to work in with you. Just be assertive. "How many sets you got? 1-2 I'll wait, 4-5 Okay I am going to work in with you in between sets. Cool, thanks. "
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I pulled this from the other thread cause your timing was perfect. I had to walk away today because I was worried I was going to get kicked out of my gym. I'm on the hack squat cause the leg press is taken. there is a guy next to me on the other hack squat. What I WANTED was the leg extensions, but there was a bag and shaker next to it.

So after one set on hack squat, the leg press opens up. the other dude is still using hack squat machine #2.
we knock out 4 sets (2 each, my buddy and I) on the leg press then I finally say fuckit, I'm going to use the leg extension machine, if someone comes over to grab their forgotten bag, so be it.

Hack squat guy quits his hack squat set to walk over to me and talk to me in the middle of my set while my earbuds are in. I remove the earbud. He says I have one more set.

"what?"

I still have one more set.

"OK, you can jump in here in a second" (I'm finishing my set).

I jump off so he can jump on. He walks all the way across the gym to grab disenfectant to polish down the seat, the back, the leg pad, the grips, and everything else. then sits down and does a set. now mind you, I wasn't sweaty yet, and I would be inclined to wipe down my own **** normally, but I truly don't worry about someone elses sweat if we are working in together.

he finishes and I said, I thought you said one more set. "yeah just one". " do you know what a set is?" "yes I do know what a set is, do you?" the wormy little POS grin he gave me at that point triggered the hell out of me. I can't even totally remember what I said next, something along the lines of how about you not monopolize every fuckin machine in the gym at once next time? and I moved on to my leg curls. took me a few minutes to not want to break his fucking jaw though.


other than that day 2 of gear cream is going awesome.
 
Right, I have one more set, OK cool you can work in with me. Your bag being there does nothing but reserve you the right to work in with me when you get around to coming back over here.
 
Dustin07 said:
I pulled this from the other thread cause your timing was perfect. I had to walk away today because I was worried I was going to get kicked out of my gym. I'm on the hack squat cause the leg press is taken. there is a guy next to me on the other hack squat. What I WANTED was the leg extensions, but there was a bag and shaker next to it.

So after one set on hack squat, the leg press opens up. the other dude is still using hack squat machine #2.
we knock out 4 sets (2 each, my buddy and I) on the leg press then I finally say fuckit, I'm going to use the leg extension machine, if someone comes over to grab their forgotten bag, so be it.

Hack squat guy quits his hack squat set to walk over to me and talk to me in the middle of my set while my earbuds are in. I remove the earbud. He says I have one more set.

"what?"

I still have one more set.

"OK, you can jump in here in a second" (I'm finishing my set).

I jump off so he can jump on. He walks all the way across the gym to grab disenfectant to polish down the seat, the back, the leg pad, the grips, and everything else. then sits down and does a set. now mind you, I wasn't sweaty yet, and I would be inclined to wipe down my own **** normally, but I truly don't worry about someone elses sweat if we are working in together.

he finishes and I said, I thought you said one more set. "yeah just one". " do you know what a set is?" "yes I do know what a set is, do you?" the wormy little POS grin he gave me at that point triggered the hell out of me. I can't even totally remember what I said next, something along the lines of how about you not monopolize every fuckin machine in the gym at once next time? and I moved on to my leg curls. took me a few minutes to not want to break his fucking jaw though.


other than that day 2 of gear cream is going awesome.
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Long time ago this was never an issue. Sharing equipment and help out others was always going on. Don't know if it is society or what but things in the gym sure have changed.
 
dapack said:
Long time ago this was never an issue. Sharing equipment and help out others was always going on. Don't know if it is society or what but things in the gym sure have changed.
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That's actually the straw that broke the camels back for me at my buddies gym. He has a great power lifting setup with all the toys and he only loves the PL aspect of the gym. But he had a class of like 10 teens and 8 or so power racks. One of his coaches pulled a similar thing on me and I was in the middle of my 531 program/squats. He says hey we need your rack.... I looked around at the kids and all the empty racks and said why? I'm almost done. "well class is about to start and they need your rack". I said there is more than enough racks here have them double up and teach them how to use a rack with a partner. Nope was his answer. I said you know, this is why people are leaving his gym in droves. I packed my **** up and left. This was the 3rd time something like this had happened. A half dozen lifers quit that month. I attempted a few morning sessions, but that means I'm lifting at about 4am to be able to make work by 6am. After that I texted him and said this ain't working anymore homie, you're gonna have to pause my membership.

I really like him, and I really like his gym, but he's tripled the price and (not his fault) my commute to get there can be 90 minutes so these chain gyms are serving a good purpose for me. $40 to use any LA Fitness in the country with basically 90% of the gear I need/want is a lot better than the drama of the local $120-200 gyms.
 
Dustin07 said:
That's actually the straw that broke the camels back for me at my buddies gym. He has a great power lifting setup with all the toys and he only loves the PL aspect of the gym. But he had a class of like 10 teens and 8 or so power racks. One of his coaches pulled a similar thing on me and I was in the middle of my 531 program/squats. He says hey we need your rack.... I looked around at the kids and all the empty racks and said why? I'm almost done. "well class is about to start and they need your rack". I said there is more than enough racks here have them double up and teach them how to use a rack with a partner. Nope was his answer. I said you know, this is why people are leaving his gym in droves. I packed my **** up and left. This was the 3rd time something like this had happened. A half dozen lifers quit that month. I attempted a few morning sessions, but that means I'm lifting at about 4am to be able to make work by 6am. After that I texted him and said this ain't working anymore homie, you're gonna have to pause my membership.

I really like him, and I really like his gym, but he's tripled the price and (not his fault) my commute to get there can be 90 minutes so these chain gyms are serving a good purpose for me. $40 to use any LA Fitness in the country with basically 90% of the gear I need/want is a lot better than the drama of the local $120-200 gyms.
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The “nope” would have sent me over the edge. Is your $$$ less green than theirs? Busch League tactics. But this is what happens to society when we cater to the lowest common denominator. Maybe grow a broccoli cut and you can w in w the tweens
 
Dustin07 said:
I pulled this from the other thread cause your timing was perfect. I had to walk away today because I was worried I was going to get kicked out of my gym. I'm on the hack squat cause the leg press is taken. there is a guy next to me on the other hack squat. What I WANTED was the leg extensions, but there was a bag and shaker next to it.

So after one set on hack squat, the leg press opens up. the other dude is still using hack squat machine #2.
we knock out 4 sets (2 each, my buddy and I) on the leg press then I finally say fuckit, I'm going to use the leg extension machine, if someone comes over to grab their forgotten bag, so be it.

Hack squat guy quits his hack squat set to walk over to me and talk to me in the middle of my set while my earbuds are in. I remove the earbud. He says I have one more set.

"what?"

I still have one more set.

"OK, you can jump in here in a second" (I'm finishing my set).

I jump off so he can jump on. He walks all the way across the gym to grab disenfectant to polish down the seat, the back, the leg pad, the grips, and everything else. then sits down and does a set. now mind you, I wasn't sweaty yet, and I would be inclined to wipe down my own **** normally, but I truly don't worry about someone elses sweat if we are working in together.

he finishes and I said, I thought you said one more set. "yeah just one". " do you know what a set is?" "yes I do know what a set is, do you?" the wormy little POS grin he gave me at that point triggered the hell out of me. I can't even totally remember what I said next, something along the lines of how about you not monopolize every fuckin machine in the gym at once next time? and I moved on to my leg curls. took me a few minutes to not want to break his fucking jaw though.


other than that day 2 of gear cream is going awesome.
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You doing 2 pumps a day for starters or 4?
 
You don’t need to put the Tamoxifen under your tongue - it’s an oral medication designed to be absorbed perfectly well thru the gut, so don’t leave that horrible burning mess in your mouth. Shoot, chase, & be done with it!

Take it all 4 weeks. Don’t taper down, not from 20, unless you are running short.
 
dapack said:
Long time ago this was never an issue. Sharing equipment and help out others was always going on. Don't know if it is society or what but things in the gym sure have changed.
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Just the entitlement and then add in all the cameras and people trying to become internet famous thinking they are the next untapped star.
Dustin07 said:
That's actually the straw that broke the camels back for me at my buddies gym. He has a great power lifting setup with all the toys and he only loves the PL aspect of the gym. But he had a class of like 10 teens and 8 or so power racks. One of his coaches pulled a similar thing on me and I was in the middle of my 531 program/squats. He says hey we need your rack.... I looked around at the kids and all the empty racks and said why? I'm almost done. "well class is about to start and they need your rack". I said there is more than enough racks here have them double up and teach them how to use a rack with a partner. Nope was his answer. I said you know, this is why people are leaving his gym in droves. I packed my **** up and left. This was the 3rd time something like this had happened. A half dozen lifers quit that month. I attempted a few morning sessions, but that means I'm lifting at about 4am to be able to make work by 6am. After that I texted him and said this ain't working anymore homie, you're gonna have to pause my membership.

I really like him, and I really like his gym, but he's tripled the price and (not his fault) my commute to get there can be 90 minutes so these chain gyms are serving a good purpose for me. $40 to use any LA Fitness in the country with basically 90% of the gear I need/want is a lot better than the drama of the local $120-200 gyms.
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I would have laughed in homies face and just said NOPE right back. I am on this and will be until I am done. If you want to refund me my dues right now I will leave otherwise find a different rack I ain't done with my sets.
PolishHamm3r77 said:
The “nope” would have sent me over the edge. Is your $$$ less green than theirs? Busch League tactics. But this is what happens to society when we cater to the lowest common denominator. Maybe grow a broccoli cut and you can w in w the tweens
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Yeah, the nope is where the problem would have arisen. I would have been like I guess we are at an impasse aren't we. Unless you intend to physically move me and risk me defending myself, your best bet is to find another station. If you are going to have a class that requires stations like that then you reserve them for the times class will be in session so people know they are not available. Most places that do this have a separate area for the paying training groups, and the ones that don't are doing it wrong.
Hyde said:
You don’t need to put the Tamoxifen under your tongue - it’s an oral medication designed to be absorbed perfectly well thru the gut, so don’t leave that horrible burning mess in your mouth. Shoot, chase, & be done with it!

Take it all 4 weeks. Don’t taper down, not from 20, unless you are running short.
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I mentioned these exact things to him in a PM once I realized he mentioned under the tongue. I also told him don't skimp on PCT getting the testosterone back up should be the number 1 priority. I think we have him on the right track now.
 
akboom87 said:
You doing 2 pumps a day for starters or 4?
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I took 1 on Monday cause I jsut couldn't wait any more. the guys got me too excited. 2 pumps on Tuesday, and today (weds) will be 3 pumps. I'll likely be up to 4 pumps by Thursday. I'm still working out the logistics a bit since 2 pumps post shower before work is easy. the other 2 pumps will probably be applied at work towards the end of the day. My goal was not necessarily to add it at night before climbing in bed with my wife, although Kleen has already put my mind to rest on that.

Hyde said:
You don’t need to put the Tamoxifen under your tongue - it’s an oral medication designed to be absorbed perfectly well thru the gut, so don’t leave that horrible burning mess in your mouth. Shoot, chase, & be done with it!

Take it all 4 weeks. Don’t taper down, not from 20, unless you are running short.
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MrKleen73 said:
I mentioned these exact things to him in a PM once I realized he mentioned under the tongue. I also told him don't skimp on PCT getting the testosterone back up should be the number 1 priority. I think we have him on the right track now.
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Roger that, just about good to go! I actually went to order it yesterday and didn't realize they dont' take credit card so I'll move money into my "special" account for such things and make the purchase on Friday.
 
also that Oreo protien was pretty damn good, even my wife said so. It has little chunks of oreo in it, but only 7g carbs and 3g sugar. so it's fairly legit. I got the hankering for a good protein from Kleens' peanut brittle post, and I almost ordered that one but with amazon prime I grabbed the free shipping and a few other things I needed anyways (like chalk).

honestly i'm not sure I have EVER ordered or purchased protein for the flavor before in my life. I always have just grabbed what I needed in whatever flavor was available and made it work, this is like a whole new world. Oreo protein shake snack at night? awesome.

Todays weight = 192.4lbs
I have increased food a tiny bit. I'm .5lbs away from being at a recent low. I'm not sure I'll hit 189 by Aug 1 without a good hard fast, but the progress is moving steadily in the right direction so I'm not sure I care.
 
Pump hunting

Rear delt swings
5 x 12

Superset with DB curls
5 x 12

Hang power cleans
4 x 10 x 115lbs
+1 x 10 x 115lb power snatch

Superset with ez bar curls
5 x 12

Lat pull downs
5 x 12

Life fitness bicep curls
6 x 12+

T-bar rows
5 x 10-12

Superset with DB hammer curls
5 x 10


Seeing vascularity finally
Weight 192.4

In and out in 55 min. Time was limited but I wanted 20 sets of biceps. Felt like 4 mini wods. Good day tho!
 
TMI but I really need to just accept that I need to pack a full change of clothes (boxer briefs) if I'm doing lunch sessions cause it sucks ass putting slacks on when you're absolutely soaked like I am right now lol. That session hit hard and good.
 
Dustin07 said:
TMI but I really need to just accept that I need to pack a full change of clothes (boxer briefs) if I'm doing lunch sessions cause it sucks ass putting slacks on when you're absolutely soaked like I am right now lol. That session hit hard and good.
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This is the way
 
I'm gonna have to figure out a real solution to the midday application. sneaking into the bathroom at work with a questionable squirt bottle is not a long term solution 😅

2 pumps this morning post shower
1 more post workout.
 
Dustin07 said:
I'm gonna have to figure out a real solution to the midday application. sneaking into the bathroom at work with a questionable squirt bottle is not a long term solution 😅

2 pumps this morning post shower
1 more post workout.
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What about 2 pumps into a baggy every morning then take the baggy in your pocket to the restroom stall. You could even use cheapo non zipper ones and just pump it into the corner then tie the corner off to keep all the fluid in it and not dispersing all over the bag. When ready tear the corner off and squeeze it out. You could even tear the bag and wipe the inside of the bag on your skin to get the rest of it if you wanted. I would.
 
MrKleen73 said:
What about 2 pumps into a baggy every morning then take the baggy in your pocket to the restroom stall. You could even use cheapo non zipper ones and just pump it into the corner then tie the corner off to keep all the fluid in it and not dispersing all over the bag. When ready tear the corner off and squeeze it out. You could even tear the bag and wipe the inside of the bag on your skin to get the rest of it if you wanted. I would.
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haha solid solution actually. that reminds me, when I travel I have often shot a bunch of epiandro into one of those 3oz like shampoo travel containers. Of course, I sorta guess on the amount I give myself each day but I'm sure it's close enough. you get a pretty good feel for it.
 
Dustin07 said:
haha solid solution actually. that reminds me, when I travel I have often shot a bunch of epiandro into one of those 3oz like shampoo travel containers. Of course, I sorta guess on the amount I give myself each day but I'm sure it's close enough. you get a pretty good feel for it.
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Yeah, it worked for me when I did it back in the day. Then I got my wife on board with my real hormone use and the fact it would actually be healthier for me than the old designers we used back in the day.
 
Oh no bubble bursting here.
 
must have had a decent Kleen style woosh this week, weighed in at only 191.6lbs today. Didn't fit in cardio yesterday and have slightly bumped up calories. 189 by 8/1 is definitely acheivable even though it serves no purpose other than a mental boost in progress.

I believe current weight is lowest I have been since my January vacation cut. I'm thinking at the moment, 180 is a reasonable goal overall. I don't carry anywhere near as much lean mass as Kleen (and I'm not getting on stage) but it feels good to be approaching 2 year lows and only just now be starting up the fire.
 
Cannonball Run

OHP
20 x bar
10 x 95, 115
5 x 134, 145
3 x 155, 160, 165
3 x 10 x 100

Laterals
3 x 10-15

SS with tri cable extensions
3 x 15-30

Forward raises
3 x 10-15

Life fitness dips
3 x 15 - varied grip

Life fitness shoulder press
3 x 10

SS with Roc-it dips
3 sets



Weight
191.6

When is first met my wife she talked about how she loved the definition and serration in my shoulders. Now days it's the pecs and biceps. I'm gonna make her love the shoulders again

The roc it is the most fun machine in the gym, I've never noticed it before lol. I'm sitting there doing presses and my buddy is on it giggling like he's on a McDonald's old school toy waiting on his happy meal

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PolishHamm3r77 said:
I think I’m hearing the Gear Cream talking!!!😂😜💪🤘
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Yep, a couple more weeks Dustin will be body slamming those gym jerks.
Not sure of the age of the guys Dustin was dealing with, but man gyms around here it’s like we constantly have to teach or remind the youngsters what proper gym etiquette is. 💪😎
 
Dustin07 said:
Cannonball Run

OHP
20 x bar
10 x 95, 115
5 x 134, 145
3 x 155, 160, 165
3 x 10 x 100

Laterals
3 x 10-15

SS with tri cable extensions
3 x 15-30

Forward raises
3 x 10-15

Life fitness dips
3 x 15 - varied grip

Life fitness shoulder press
3 x 10

SS with Roc-it dips
3 sets



Weight
191.6

When is first met my wife she talked about how she loved the definition and serration in my shoulders. Now days it's the pecs and biceps. I'm gonna make her love the shoulders again

The roc it is the most fun machine in the gym, I've never noticed it before lol. I'm sitting there doing presses and my buddy is on it giggling like he's on a McDonald's old school toy waiting on his happy meal

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I actually really like all of the Hoist roc it stuff they added at the commercial gym here; the best cable machines they have of the 3 brands they have now.

I thought the whole moving back and forth was an absolute meme before trying it, but I’ll be damned if the Hoist models aren’t smoother and easier on the joints than virtually any competitive machine from another make. I mean, the distribution of everything is extremely even & honestly they feel like a cheat code for managing some extra volume at the end of a session.
 
gphagan1 said:
Yep, a couple more weeks Dustin will be body slamming those gym jerks.
Not sure of the age of the guys Dustin was dealing with, but man gyms around here it’s like we constantly have to teach or remind the youngsters what proper gym etiquette is. 💪😎
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PolishHamm3r77 said:
I think I’m hearing the Gear Cream talking!!!😂😜💪🤘
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It certainly seems like it. I felt a slight mood uptick on day 1, like the andro in ultra hard does for me but I tried to ignore it because I'm a sucker for a good placebo effect. After 4 days though, Libido is through the roof. Wife came home to party lights and marvin gay blasting in the bedroom. "but we have to go to the dogs class in 15 minutes", don't worry, this will only take 2 1/2.

Aggression and desire in the gym is up. Mood is up, libido noticeably up. APPETITE is up. That could create a struggle, lol. I have felt some extra fatigue. I've walked into the gym feeling tired telling myself to go through the motions, then feel like I absolutely crush it by the end. Very tired at night, so getting to bed by 8:30 has been easy.

This morning I woke up singing The Lion Sleeps Tonight to our German Shepherd. He and my wife were both confused. Work sorta sucks right now but my good mood is so euphoric this week it's bordering on delirium lol.

I'm very very happy/excited that as I approach my normal "vacation" target weight, the fire and motivation seem to be doubling down.

Weight today was steady at 191.6.


Hyde said:
I thought the whole moving back and forth was an absolute meme before trying it, but I’ll be damned if the Hoist models aren’t smoother and easier on the joints than virtually any competitive machine from another make.
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absolutely. I got on it in jest, and recognized the feel. I must have used one at the Y or something a good 15+ years ago. It was a great burn out on the triceps and it felt like it isolated them a lot more than using the seated dips tbh. I have no problem throwing into the rotation but I do have a video of my buddy on it looking like he's riding the merry go round at dairyqueen 😅
 
Dustin07 said:
Aggression and desire in the gym is up. Mood is up, libido noticeably up. APPETITE is up
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I found these things to all be a reality. The appetite was an issue. I had 3 boxes of Rule1 protein bars and those lasted maybe 10 days.
singing to the dog and the party lights w Marvin playin was too funny!!!😂
 
Segansational said:
This is the best thing I've read all week!
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Hyde said:
A man who knows himself & what he truly needs is a pure thing!
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Respecting your lady also means respecting her time, why take 10 minutes to do what requires only 1? 😅😅

PolishHamm3r77 said:
I found these things to all be a reality. The appetite was an issue. I had 3 boxes of Rule1 protein bars and those lasted maybe 10 days.
singing to the dog and the party lights w Marvin playin was too funny!!!😂
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LOL yeah my cheat code here is veggies, chicken breast, and sparkling waters since these things are all fairly filling for me. It would be super easy for me to cruse a few cups of rice smothered in some salsa or something. I think I could drive the all you can eat sushi bar out of business right now. I'm going to stick with my wifes coaches plan (obviously much increased calories/protein) and plan on a reset/cheat meal Saturday with her again after squats. I got a hankering to smash a burger!

PolishHamm3r77 said:
singing to the dog and the party lights w Marvin playin was too funny!!!😂
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Feeling good!! had a brutal early morning meeting today with a customer that I really didn't want to do, wasn't sure how I was going to navigate it but honestly felt great the whole time and walked out feeling pretty positive. It's funny how lifes circumstances don't really have to change near as much as your perspective and mood does to find your happy place.
 
also my caffiene intake is crazy low for me. This is sorta normal summber behavior, but I'm not even finishing my first cup at home with the wife and definitely have not been making a second cup at work. been saving 90% of my stim use for preWO. Just haven't needed or desired it. In the winter time it's not unusual for me to brew a cup of coffee at 2pm.
 
Dustin07 said:
Respecting your lady also means respecting her time, why take 10 minutes to do what requires only 1? 😅😅



LOL yeah my cheat code here is veggies, chicken breast, and sparkling waters since these things are all fairly filling for me. It would be super easy for me to cruse a few cups of rice smothered in some salsa or something. I think I could drive the all you can eat sushi bar out of business right now. I'm going to stick with my wifes coaches plan (obviously much increased calories/protein) and plan on a reset/cheat meal Saturday with her again after squats. I got a hankering to smash a burger!



Feeling good!! had a brutal early morning meeting today with a customer that I really didn't want to do, wasn't sure how I was going to navigate it but honestly felt great the whole time and walked out feeling pretty positive. It's funny how lifes circumstances don't really have to change near as much as your perspective and mood does to find your happy place.
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What do you do for work?
 
Dustin07 said:
also my caffiene intake is crazy low for me. This is sorta normal summber behavior, but I'm not even finishing my first cup at home with the wife and definitely have not been making a second cup at work. been saving 90% of my stim use for preWO. Just haven't needed or desired it. In the winter time it's not unusual for me to brew a cup of coffee at 2pm.
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I brewed on at 6 pm yest. Was off day from lifting so no stim PWO
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
What do you do for work?
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we're in manufacturing, dad and I started the company back in 2002 so it's been a wild ride.
I usually get in at 6am (crew gets in at 7) to both get organized for the day, and beat the commute. I'll often be out of the office earlier then, but tend to find myself working from home and the weekend so I take some liberties here and there.

PolishHamm3r77 said:
I brewed on at 6 pm yest. Was off day from lifting so no stim PWO
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I'm not necessarily 'trying' to cut caffiene, but simultaneously sorta excited to not be reaching for it regularly. I wouldn't yet call it a mindful or intentional reduction in stimulants, although I am becoming more aware and mindful as I ingest them which is probably a positive step to a more moderate use overall. I really am one of those that lives on sunshine, it has a great positive effect on me.
 
Dustin07 said:
we're in manufacturing, dad and I started the company back in 2002 so it's been a wild ride.
I usually get in at 6am (crew gets in at 7) to both get organized for the day, and beat the commute. I'll often be out of the office earlier then, but tend to find myself working from home and the weekend so I take some liberties here and there.



I'm not necessarily 'trying' to cut caffiene, but simultaneously sorta excited to not be reaching for it regularly. I wouldn't yet call it a mindful or intentional reduction in stimulants, although I am becoming more aware and mindful as I ingest them which is probably a positive step to a more moderate use overall. I really am one of those that lives on sunshine, it has a great positive effect on me.
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I probably consume too much. 2 cups b4 work, a Celsius around 11 and then Pump Addict at 5:45 as I get off the highway 15min from home.
 
Dustin07 said:
also my caffiene intake is crazy low for me. This is sorta normal summber behavior, but I'm not even finishing my first cup at home with the wife and definitely have not been making a second cup at work. been saving 90% of my stim use for preWO. Just haven't needed or desired it. In the winter time it's not unusual for me to brew a cup of coffee at 2pm.
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Hormones tend to give energy; between that and the BP increase it’s normal to decrease stim intake when guys go on blast. I mean not just from some being health consciousness, but rather you may not feel the need as much, or tolerate them nearly as well.

This is how you hear guys boasting about being wired up on a cup of coffee - their cranked androgen levels are already overdriving the cardiovascular system plenty. They aren’t kidding! Cup of coffee and a shot of Trest Ace will have you sweating and rarin’ to rip.
 
Hyde said:
I mean not just from some being health consciousness, but rather you may not feel the need as much, or tolerate them nearly as well.
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makes sense to me! when I was reading the reviews and logs I could find on gear cream I did see mention of guys saying they weren't even using preWO and using their gear cream cycle as a chance to cycle off additional stims for a while, so that's probably been on my mind a bit as well.
 
Dustin sounding joooocey lol. Glad it’s going well for ya man! Elevated DHEA does increase sensitivity down there as well, as seen here 🤣
 
SkRaw85 said:
Dustin sounding joooocey lol. Glad it’s going well for ya man! Elevated DHEA does increase sensitivity down there as well, as seen here 🤣
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Yeah I think Dustin and his lady are gonna have a good weekend. Hey, it’s the only cardio that feels good. 😜
 
SkRaw85 said:
Dustin sounding joooocey lol. Glad it’s going well for ya man! Elevated DHEA does increase sensitivity down there as well, as seen here
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I'm starting to wonder if I should explore TRT soon. I get so high off Epiandro and now gear cream. Just a massive mood benefit. I never wanted to commit to the lifetime road but every time I do a run my mental space is like all blue skies and boobies.
 
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