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Timber's Epi Smash

Damn... Powerlifting is something I never want to get involved in. :lol:

I don't like the BB snatch all too much. DB or Kettleballs for the win.
 
Irish Cannon said:
My old math teach broke his wrists snatching 405lbs. Dude was a gorilla; I don't mean any racist disrespect by that, but seriously, he was a monstrous black dude...Ex-SF...A few years ago I heard he had a heart attack. I'm curious how he's doing as far as size, weight lifting, etc. The guy had to be on gear back when he was teaching me.
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Teachers on gear, awesome.
 
I remember this time some dude made some racist comment behind his back, but Mr. Ex-Spec Ops had insane hearing, and he got PISSED! He basically said to the dude, "I don't give a sH*t about this job, and I don't mind going to prison, so I will gladly take you outside and beat the living hell out of you if you say something like that again." lol
 
haha holy crap!
 
Irish Cannon said:
I remember this time some dude made some racist comment behind his back, but Mr. Ex-Spec Ops had insane hearing, and he got PISSED! He basically said to the dude, "I don't give a sH*t about this job, and I don't mind going to prison, so I will gladly take you outside and beat the living hell out of you if you say something like that again." lol
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HAHA! Awesome. :D
 
Funny... Ergopharm is getting sued by a MLB player.

News: Suspended Phillies reliever J.C. Romero has filed suit against a nutritional supplement manufacturer alleging an unlisted ingredient in one of its products caused him to test positive for a substance banned by Major League Baseball. Romero, suspended for the first 50 games of the 2009 season, says he tested positive for steroids last August because a supplement he was taking, 6-OXO Extreme, did not specify it included androstenedione, a banned substance. He filed suit Monday in Camden County, N.J. seeking punitive and compensatory damages. Romero also named as defendants the corporate owners of two nutritional stores where he purchased 6-OXO Extreme, alleging sales clerks assured him it would not cause a positive test for a banned substance.
 
TimberLakers said:
Funny... Ergopharm is getting sued by a MLB player.

News: Suspended Phillies reliever J.C. Romero has filed suit against a nutritional supplement manufacturer alleging an unlisted ingredient in one of its products caused him to test positive for a substance banned by Major League Baseball. Romero, suspended for the first 50 games of the 2009 season, says he tested positive for steroids last August because a supplement he was taking, 6-OXO Extreme, did not specify it included androstenedione, a banned substance. He filed suit Monday in Camden County, N.J. seeking punitive and compensatory damages. Romero also named as defendants the corporate owners of two nutritional stores where he purchased 6-OXO Extreme, alleging sales clerks assured him it would not cause a positive test for a banned substance.
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Yea i remember reading when he got suspended last year. Appealed and got to play the rest of the year.

Wonder if he is opening a can of worms. Was he in PCT of a PH cycle...who knows only him. They will ask questions. He is seeking like 1.4 million i think
 
We would have to all call it TC...cause calling it Teh Clear would get annoying :D
 
Irish Cannon said:
Does it actually contain that?
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Nope, unless maybe his batch did? In which case, I hope his ass saved a pill - because how are you going to prove that. I bet he was finishing a PCT and got nailed.

6-OXO (as 4-Etioallocholen-3,6, 17-Trione) 300mg
Quercetin 600mg
Resveratrol 50% 1200mg
Piperine (Black Pepper Extract) 20mg
Zinc (as Zinc Gluconate) 4mg
 
Also, what was a MLB player doing taking advice from some douchebag hack at a GNC anyway? I mean c'mon. You're a professional athlete. Ask someone who knows something?!??!
 
Didn't he say it was an unlisted ingredient?...as you said, he better have saved a pill if that's true, and if not, he's going to be made a douche for attempting to make Ergopharm a scapegoat.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Didn't he say it was an unlisted ingredient?...as you said, he better have saved a pill if that's true, and if not, he's going to be made a douche for attempting to make Ergopharm a scapegoat.
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Yeah, he tested positive for androstenedione - which is an unlisted ingredient.
 
Funny thing is, androstenedione is a testosterone precursor that I THINK is an ingredient in Ergopharm's 11-oxo... Could have been a production mistake, but without saving a pill - there's not much he can do about it.

Guess they could always buy up a bunch of 6-oxo Extreme and have it tested at an independant lab. I would think his lawyers have something concrete to bring to court.
 
Ergo needs to put one of those disclaimers on the bottle: "This product was manufactured on the same machinery as 11-OXO and may contain some Androstenedione"
And yes, you would think his attorneys have some kind of a case to argue
And also...this guy doesn't have a professional trainer advising him??
 
I don't want to say at what either....
 
He obviously has access to training staff due to his affilliation to a professional baseball team.

Good breakdown of MLB banned substances here:

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MLB also has a hotline you can call and ask for advice on supplements.

My cousin who is in the minors has the same system in place.
 
Back (Day 4)

I usually bring my blackberry along for the workout and type out as I go. Didn't do that today, so I'm just reciting this from memory. Workout was a little unconventional since my workout buddy was about 45 minutes late and we re-did some pullups. :twisted:

Pullups
About 30, close grip today.

Bent BB Row
12*135, 12*185, 10*185, 10*135

Deadlift
12*225, 10*315, 8*315, 15*225
Yes, its light... I know you guys are used to seeing 400+ here, but I'm focusing on SLOW reps, and perfecting my form. I think my days of 400 are behind me, just not worth it in my opinion.

Dual Pulley Lat Pulldown
12*130, 10*150, 12*110

Face Pulls
15*80, 12*95, 10*110, 8*110, 12*80

DB Row
10*75, 9*85, 8*85

Bench Crunches

2 Miles
1.5 Miles @ 7.8 mph
0.5 miles @ 12.5 mph

Left work a little early today and fell asleep on the couch. Was tough getting my wits back about me. Found 2 RPM in the cupboard and took those with some Diet Dew - got me going enough to get to the gym. Once I got there I was fine.

I really enjoy running sometimes... Like I feel good afterwards, but I've been listening to this song for my last half mile for a couple weeks now, and it gives me the biggest runners high I've ever had. Euphoria - hard to explain. Feel like I want to go another couple miles, but alas - its time to get large :nono: I usually don't get down with sappy Rocky music - must be the Russian in me. Dolph Lundgren was the sh*t.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xHjC27YvM"]YouTube - Training Montage - Rocky IV[/ame]
 
TimberLakers said:
Funny... Ergopharm is getting sued by a MLB player.

News: Suspended Phillies reliever J.C. Romero has filed suit against a nutritional supplement manufacturer alleging an unlisted ingredient in one of its products caused him to test positive for a substance banned by Major League Baseball. Romero, suspended for the first 50 games of the 2009 season, says he tested positive for steroids last August because a supplement he was taking, 6-OXO Extreme, did not specify it included androstenedione, a banned substance. He filed suit Monday in Camden County, N.J. seeking punitive and compensatory damages. Romero also named as defendants the corporate owners of two nutritional stores where he purchased 6-OXO Extreme, alleging sales clerks assured him it would not cause a positive test for a banned substance.
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i remember when that came out. the feds raided ergopharm because of PA's prior. since he's not in jail right now, we can only assume they found nothing illegal in 6-OXO. given that PA has been in trouble at the beginning of his career when he accidentally tainted "the clear" with trenbolone, i doubt he'd be stupid enough to make the same mistake again. especially with a prior and the feds always breathing down his neck.

i think romero just wanted a scapegoat, and PA sounded like the easy person to blame. IMO.
 
Dang TL i wanted to see for 400+ DLs :( hahaha I understand were your coming from tho. Form and getting the most outta lower weight is the way to go, but sure fun to lift heavy heavy sometimes ;) Im diggin the Face Pulls and the Crunchs at the end! Those always burn! Im not sure if you said it befor if so sorry, but can i ask what are your rest times and do you try to get done in under a certain time limit??
 
Teg said:
Dang TL i wanted to see for 400+ DLs :( hahaha I understand were your coming from tho. Form and getting the most outta lower weight is the way to go, but sure fun to lift heavy heavy sometimes ;) Im diggin the Face Pulls and the Crunchs at the end! Those always burn! Im not sure if you said it befor if so sorry, but can i ask what are your rest times and do you try to get done in under a certain time limit??
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Rest times really depend on the exercise. I'd say they vary from 30 seconds (something like facepulls) to 3 minutes (deadlifts or incline presses)... I like to give enough time for the muscles to recover for another big set, but also short enough to keep the heart rate up.
 
TimberLakers said:
Rest times really depend on the exercise. I'd say they vary from 30 seconds (something like facepulls) to 3 minutes (deadlifts or incline presses)... I like to give enough time for the muscles to recover for another big set, but also short enough to keep the heart rate up.
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Ahhhh Ok! I wasnt sure if you were on a strict time limit that you wanted for "optimal results" or for other reasons. Thank You for the explaination bradda!
 
Teg said:
Ahhhh Ok! I wasnt sure if you were on a strict time limit that you wanted for "optimal results" or for other reasons. Thank You for the explaination bradda!
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I'm not nearly as scientific as some of the guys on this board. I just move stuff until it hurts and eat and hope for the best.
 
14 is a bit long. Longest I've seen is 10 I believe.

Also, I being the 5th day, I believe its time to amp up the PreWO dosage to 20mg for a total of 30mg ED.
 
puffs said:
im gona start my 14 week p-plex/epi pulse next week.:lick:
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14 weeks, even on a pulse (which I highly do not recommend) is too long. 10 weeks for that particular method is the longest I would run it. To be honest with you, the gains will not be mind-blowing with an Epistane pulse. A straight cycle, or even a bridge cycle would benefit you more so, in my opinion. Why did you decide on using 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol (Phera Plex) in the first place? Too many reports of rebound with that compound lately. I ran the first batch of Phera when it first hit the market; however, those whom have used both the original and the cloned version say that they experienced more unwanted sides with the cloned version. Food for thought.
I personally would run a 1-Tren/Epistane combo for a straight 5-6 weeks. But that’s just me. ;)
 
Iron Lungz said:
14 weeks, even on a pulse (which I highly do not recommend) is too long. 10 weeks for that particular method is the longest I would run it. To be honest with you, the gains will not be mind-blowing with an Epistane pulse. A straight cycle, or even a bridge cycle would benefit you more so, in my opinion. Why did you decide on using 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol (Phera Plex) in the first place? Too many reports of rebound with that compound lately. I ran the first batch of Phera when it first hit the market; however, those whom have used both the original and the cloned version say that they experienced more unwanted sides with the cloned version. Food for thought.
I personally would run a 1-Tren/Epistane combo for a straight 5-6 weeks. But that’s just me. ;)
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I have definitely noticed more people complaining of sides from the PP clones. I used the original Phera-Plex from AX, and that stuff was great and I had zero sides; I'm a little skurd to run a clone, though. Too many issues that I've seen with it.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I have definitely noticed more people complaining of sides from the PP clones. I used the original Phera-Plex from AX, and that stuff was great and I had zero sides; I'm a little skurd to run a clone, though. Too many issues that I've seen with it.
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I ran P-Plex along with Tren for my cycle. I gained 5lbs week 1 with Tren alone, 4lbs with Tren and P-Plex during week 2 and then only gained 3 more lbs the remaining 3 weeks so I am not real sure about P-Plex.
 
I bet you'll notice the difference pretty quickly when you up to 30mg!

prepare for an aggressive workout!!!
 
and even more at 40mg!
 
Irish Cannon said:
I'll probably be running the same thing after the summer, but I'll be adding a few things. Probably be...

Epidrol/MMV3/TD-Form
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Holy Agro...that Irish temper will be stoked for sure!!
 
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