Such as what products ?Bob is awesome. He’s basically truth serum for the industry. My apologies, as this is a bit off topic, but have you ever made a thread that lists out all the supplements you’ve used where you said a marked improvement? If you haven’t, I’m sure the majority of the board would love to see what’s legit out there when it comes to delivering results.
Just Natty anabolic?
Your question is too vague as results will vary from person to person and not everyone runs logs in a controlled environment. The same can be said with ingredient profiles and how people responds
for example preworkouts some may love vaso6 and s7 while others may dwell off nitrates and citrulline . Everyone should take any feedback with a grain of salt as the human body is not a textbook, and how we respond will greatly differ. That is why you see hit or miss feedback on products like that.
if I changed my nutrition and adjusted hundred of calories either way in a week to week basis over a 3 month log a lot of the change would be nutrition towards my goal and body comp, which is why I try and minimize external or extreme factors to see how much the “supplement” does during my run
while not everyone agrees with how I do these logs it isolates the supplement to the largest degree to see how effective it is when introduced to a consistent diet and training program.