Which ones in particular should I start reading up on?
Except caffeine is perhaps the most proven acute ergogenic aid, things like rhodiola have been shown to acutely increase endurance, Alpha-GPC has been shown to increase power output, etc.
Caffeine increases power output acutely and is a stimulant.
It’s typically 3-6 mg/kg, or 240-480mg for an 80kg person. 2mg/kg (~160mg) seems to not do so, so I’d aim for at least low-mid 200s, but there’s likely no need to go above 5mg/kg (~400mg).
When I go on a pre workout break for a month or longer, and then take a coffee, it really perks me up for a workout.
Wrong....
Very true. When you feel good, you tend to hit harder.
If something increases power output, this can increase workload, helping with progressive overload, helping with gains over time.
It won’t hinder gains, that’s the ONLY thing I’m saying here man. We agree.
Everyone was fine without an iPhone X and a 4k TV too, that doesn’t mean that people can’t enjoy them and get something out of them.
You do know that caffeine is a CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM STIMULANT too, right? If playing with CNS stimulants is inherently playing with fire, then your morning cup of coffee is, by definition, also playing with fire.
It won’t hinder gains, that’s the ONLY thing I’m saying here man. We agree.
And the word “addicted” is thrown around way too much. So you feel a need to use a cheap, legal, and safe product to go to the gym multiple times a week after a long day at work? Terrible “addiction” right?
A “vicious cycle?” Most companies don’t even sell sleep aids man, and most people don’t use sleep aids. And plenty of people can fall asleep after drinking their PWO, which is why they keep wanting something stronger. This logic is unfounded conspiracy talk that spits in the face of most actual evidence.
And maybe one day you will learn what fallacious logic is. Hint, you’ve used it several times already. You’re an addict so you’re an expert on addiction? Just like the guy who had a heart attack is a cardiologist, right?
Yeah, 95% of supplement claims are greatly exaggerated. I’ll give you that. I think we’ve beat this dead horse enough.
I’ll tell you what an addiction is. It’s when it has negative effects on your life. Jail, losing jobs, loved ones, etc. If the only negative is that you have to spend $1/day on a legal supplement, what’s really the negative? So you won’t workout without it? Oh well, then just buy it. If it gets you to the gym, then it’s a net positive. It’s better for you than drinking large soda all day for sure.
I know people in recovery too. I live in South Florida, basically in the recovery capital of the world. People are dying every day, probably every hour even. And comparing the potential consequences of PWO “addiction” to those of alcohol or narcotics addiction is sort of insulting to them IMO. I’m telling you that if your worst addiction is a PWO, you are a fortunate man indeed.All good man! obviously I’ve hit a nerve with the “addiction”. Me personally have seen it first hand it’s not pretty so I understand. People usually get defensive and try to warrant their addiction by claiming it’s all ok but it isn’t
Again seems like I’m derailing a lot of threads unintentionally hahaha
I take PWO so I can’t be too much of a hypocrite and even take sleep aids and maybe Ep1louge. But they are a waste and I wish I didn’t enjoy them but here i am!
I used to be younger and waste thousands and thousands on the empty promises from supplement companies but I still think everyone is allowed to do what they want of course. who I am to say what anyone spends their money on!
Back to the reviews anyways
