The New Product Release Thread

BRUstrong said:
I pulled the trigger on Innova Pharm Limitless and have not been disappointed. The focus is pretty insane. Bummed that it has phenylpiracetam in it because I can't take it every day (don't want to build up a tolerance). Although, it does add a great mood boosting effect. I'll definitely be using this 2-4 times/week.

Oh, and since I'm a junkie, I also ordered some Gold Star Triple X because it doesn't have phenylpiracetam. I'll throw up a comparison when it arrives.
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Was looking into that also :(
Used phenylpiracetam in the past and tolerance is remarkably fast, Not worth it as a pre.
 
BRUstrong said:
I pulled the trigger on Innova Pharm Limitless and have not been disappointed. The focus is pretty insane. Bummed that it has phenylpiracetam in it because I can't take it every day (don't want to build up a tolerance). Although, it does add a great mood boosting effect. I'll definitely be using this 2-4 times/week.

Oh, and since I'm a junkie, I also ordered some Gold Star Triple X because it doesn't have phenylpiracetam. I'll throw up a comparison when it arrives.
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it's good stuff huh, works out well in my routine since i switch between that and DMBA w Norcodrene or Alphamine 3-4 times a week
 
ma70 said:
I like that profile a lot.
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3 caps wouldn't be bad, although I personally like a bit more caffeine. Still, 105mg caffeine, 300mg ornithine, and 450mg PS is pretty nice, especially for $0.75 ($29.99 for 120 caps). It has a nice amount of PS, which has quite a few benefits.

I love caffeine+theanine+ornithine as a cornerstone of my nootropic stack.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
3 caps wouldn't be bad, although I personally like a bit more caffeine. Still, 105mg caffeine, 300mg ornithine, and 450mg PS is pretty nice, especially for $0.75 ($29.99 for 120 caps). It has a nice amount of PS, which has quite a few benefits.

I love caffeine+theanine+ornithine as a cornerstone of my nootropic stack.
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200mg of caffeine is plenty for me, and honestly, I think 100mg would be a sweetspot but the bulk caffeine tabs I have are only 200mg. Also, since it's 120 caps per container, a month supply standard would be 4 caps.
 
ma70 said:
200mg of caffeine is plenty for me, and honestly, I think 100mg would be a sweetspot but the bulk caffeine tabs I have are only 200mg. Also, since it's 120 caps per container, a month supply standard would be 4 caps.
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That's true. 4 caps would make it $1/day, and would provide 140mg caffeine, 400mg ornithine, and a very nice 600mg PS.

I've been waiting for more companies to start adding ornithine to caffeine, as research shows that they're synergistic. With that said, and the low doses of ornithine needed, and the fact that citrulline supplementation can increase ornithine levels, would the large amounts of citrulline found in many pre-workouts also be synergistic with caffeine?
 
I've been waiting for this. Not many EAA products contain all EAAs like the original Intra-MD or RPG IBCAA

Edit: if it really has 4.5 grams of HydroMax glycerol then it is fully dosed. That's how much works for me personally.
 
cubs1987 said:
new from Antaeus Labs... did not see this announced. Psyche

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Does anyone know What percentage extract of phosphatidylserine is in vitality?

I never noticed too much of a noot effect from it and it contains 400mg. Granted this will probably be dosed two capsules 2x daily. I don't know if that amount of caffeine and ornithine will do much for me though. Perhaps a slight ergogenic benefit.

I have been using their queen bee acid and their 7,8 combined which has produced impressive cumulative effects.
 
Afi140 said:
Does anyone know What percentage extract of phosphatidylserine is in vitality?

I never noticed too much of a noot effect from it and it contains 400mg. Granted this will probably be doses two capsules 2x daily. I don't know if that amount of caffeine and ornithine will not do much for me though. I have been using their queen bee acid and their 7,8 which has produced impressive cumulative effects.perhaps overtime this will produce some nice effects.
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The supplement facts just say 400mg PS I think. It says "Soybean-derived Phosphatidylserine (Soy-PS).....400mg."

I haven't found PS to have much of a noticeable nootropic effect, even at 7-800mg. This may be because I take a very extensive nootropic stack already, and there is a point of diminishing returns with everything. With that said, PS is still a solid ingredient with a good bit of research supporting its effectiveness in multiple aspects.

The caffeine is a bit low for me as well, as I enjoy 200mg caffeine + 200mg theanine + 250mg ornithine HCL.
 
The new conquer look good 2 of my favorite ingredient elevatp and nitroginine, when will it be available?
 
alvin1 said:
The new conquer look good 2 of my favorite ingredient elevatp and nitroginine, when will it be available?
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I've never tried ElevATP, but I do like Peak ATP (although I only buy it when it's BOGO from Swanson). Has anyone tried both and preferred one over the other?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I've never tried ElevATP, but I do like Peak ATP (although I only buy it when it's BOGO from Swanson). Has anyone tried both and preferred one over the other?
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It is a very effective ingredient based on our testing. Im still not sold personally on Peak ATP, i mean we don't consume cAMP to increase cAMP we consume Forskolin. Same sort of principal in this case IMO.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
It is a very effective ingredient based on our testing. Im still not sold personally on Peak ATP, i mean we don't consume cAMP to increase cAMP we consume Forskolin. Same sort of principal in this case IMO.
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I wasn't sold on it at first, but I've seen a handful of studies on it showing benefits:
Oral ATP administration can increase post-exercise blood flow, and may be particularly effective during exercise recovery.
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Supplementation with 400 mg ATP/d for 15 days tended to reduce muscle fatigue and improved a participant’s ability to maintain a higher force output at the end of an exhaustive exercise bout.
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Our results suggest oral ATP supplementation may enhance muscular adaptations following 12-weeks of resistance training, and prevent decrements in performance following overreaching.
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muscleupcrohn said:
I wasn't sold on it at first, but I've seen a handful of studies on it showing benefits:

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Yeah, good to see you are also on top of these. Basically Peak ATP is something that could be useful used chroncially over time, our goal with Conqu3r was to use ingredients with acute effects to enhance a persons workout immediately. As seen in the ElevATP studies there is a very fast a significant rise post consumption.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Yeah, good to see you are also on top of these. Basically Peak ATP is something that could be useful used chroncially over time, our goal with Conqu3r was to use ingredients with acute effects to enhance a persons workout immediately. As seen in the ElevATP studies there is a very fast a significant rise post consumption.
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Yes, that is a good point. I share your belief that the ingredients in a pre-workout supplement should have acute effects, as, realistically, very few people are going to be taking a pre-workout supplement every day, while a lot of ingredients should be taken daily for full benefits. For this reason, I'm not really a huge fan of creatine, beta alanine, and betaine in pre-workouts; I'm not opposed to their inclusion, and it won't stop me from buying/using a supplement, but I'm going to need additional sources of these ingredients for rest days anyway, so why bother putting them in a pre-workout supplement, really?
 
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interested in the julgans regia extract for sure. how much caffeine in two scoops?
 
The stim-free Conqu3r Unleashed and the new Intra-MD EAA+ would make the perfect early-morning stim- and nitrate-free combo for me. With 6.5g of HydroMax, the pumps will be deep to the bone.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Yes, that is a good point. I share your belief that the ingredients in a pre-workout supplement should have acute effects, as, realistically, very few people are going to be taking a pre-workout supplement every day, while a lot of ingredients should be taken daily for full benefits. For this reason, I'm not really a huge fan of creatine, beta alanine, and betaine in pre-workouts; I'm not opposed to their inclusion, and it won't stop me from buying/using a supplement, but I'm going to need additional sources of these ingredients for rest days anyway, so why bother putting them in a pre-workout supplement, really?
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I think like you!
 
Afi140 said:
DGE was 40mg higenamine so it's probably 60/40 or 50/50.
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we actually haven't released the caffeine content and i can confirm higenamine is dosed different to DGE, but either way you guys are smart and can deduce ball parks for each ingredient im sure.
 
Yeah, at the same time a scoop and a third of a scoop ;) would provide enough pump and less of a hit (and possibly crash).
 
cubs1987 said:
did anyone try this when it was available in prior years? Wondering if they updated the flavor (like I saw they just did with their vanilla)
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I hope they did. I tried it and it was one of the weakest pumpkin flavors.

If they are refreshing the flavor I may try it again.
 
People still drink ON? lol
 
aaronuconn said:
Probably number one selling still.

Didn't think a lot of people on this forum did, but it's an interesting flavor.
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Agree and was just making a joke.

I know ON is still more than likely #1 outside the forums
 
kbayne said:
People still drink ON? lol
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I'm with you on them not being great at flavoring but at least all the basic people drinking it are getting a product that meets label claims in exchange for their money.

I'd be willing to bet that a fair number of forum types are drinking great tasting powders that don't meet such a standard.
 
LLN said:
I'm with you on them not being great at flavoring but at least all the basic people drinking it are getting a product that meets label claims in exchange for their money.

I'd be willing to bet that a fair number of forum types are drinking great tasting powders that don't meet such a standard.
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But does it taste good?!?! lol
 
I still enjoy ON more than most wheys. I just don't pay the high price usually. Mixes great and I like the chocolate a lot
 
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