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Frank Reynolds said:
I don't count any trace carbs and my Carb sources for any counted carbs are whatever I want. White rice, low fat ice cream, low fat eggo waffles, white potato fries(baked), sandwich bagels, etc . None of this gay low gi **** lol. As long as it is low fat and a true Carb source.
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I wish I could do that... If I go a little bit over the carb side I just end up packing fat rather than muscle :(
 
@jkd77

I agree with Judo, your cals are way too low. If you have been on the diet for long then you need to figure out your maintenance and eat at maintenance for 2 weeks. Make sure to get in AT LEAST 100 grams of carbs a day during those 2 weeks, maybe even higher. You need the carbs to help increase your leptin levels which will speed your metabolism back up then you can start dropping cals little by little again and realizing renewed fat loss. In general 4 up to 6 weeks of dieting then take a 2 week maintenance period then go back to restricting calories.
 
I am going to be incorporating Lyle MacDonalds Rapid Fat Loss Handbook Crash Diet into the Lean Gains 16/8 windows. I let myself get a bit out of control recently and to bring things back in under control and kick start my discipline again I am going to do Lyle's Crash Diet. I won't go to into it right here but basically it is 1-1.5 g protein per lb of LBM. You take in as little trace carbs and fat as possible other than 6 fish oil caps a day and a multi-vitamin.

Now being that I am already still decently in shape, I will only be doing 1 short round of the diet which will be 11 days of extremely low cals, and carbs somewhere in the 1200-1400 cals range. After which I do a 3 day carb up where I take in about 800 carbs one day 400 the next and say 200 the 3rd day at which point I will begin eating maintenance for 2 weeks before dropping cals again which will only be a small drop to get the fat moving again and I will spend the rest of the diet in a more relaxed dieting mode.

Basically I will eat 3 times on weight training days.

Will look like this:
4AM, 6AM, 8 AM, 10 AM aminos 12:00PM Break fast with 100g protein 20 of it coming from fat free cottage cheese, 3:30 PM 50-60 grams protien, dinner 100 grams protein 20 coming from cottage cheese.

I will eat 2 times on cardio days.

Will look like this:
4AM, 6AM, 8 AM, 10 AM, 12:00 PM and 2:00PM aminos 3:30PM Break fast with 100g protein 20 of it coming from fat free cottage cheese, 7:00 PM Dinner = 100 grams protein 20 coming from cottage cheese.

In theory I should lose anywhere from 11-20 lbs total bodyweight and 4-7 lbs of actuall fat mass in the 2 week period with minimal if any muscle loss. I am hoping this gets me down to where I prefer to be and then I can diet down to however lean I want once I have given myself this headstart. I will be starting this on Monday and will probably link up a log in here detailing how everything went.
 
JKD77 said:
Ok,.. What do you think is a good length of time before I go back to a deficit intake?
I ask this because I have a difficult time consuming extra calorie in order to lose weight... I must admit, I have a distorted view about calorie consumption due to my morbidly obese past.. (plays with my head) My brain tells me less = weight loss
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I agree with the above... definitely not getting enough calories. You need to break that mindset that you have that you need to eat low cal. Keep the food sources quality like lean protein and healthy carbs and pack that **** down on your workout days and keep it reasonable on non workout days.

I have been having extreme successe with LG/IF and I am eating more than ever. In the past I have looked only at the scale and tried to get as lean as possible as quick as possible not caring what kind of tissue I lost muscle or fat... well i wanted just fat to be gone but with the low amount of calories I was eating there was no way I didnt lose muscle..

Right now after 9 weeks of 2800-3000 calories on workout days (45% carbs, 40% protein, and 15% fat) and 2000-2400 every other day... I have managed to only lose 10 lbs (which is nothing when I am cutting for 9 weeks normally) but I have managed to put a half inch on my arms, my widest point (love handle to love handle) has dropped 2.25 inches which in reality might not be all the fat I lost because I have been doing extremely heavy ab workouts and my core is definitely getting thicker and sticking out... but the big thing for me is that I am sitting at 218lbs and yet I look about as lean as I have in the past when I am usually around 205...

Dont be afraid to eat correctly, it will pay off in the end big time
 
bla55 said:
I wish I could do that... If I go a little bit over the carb side I just end up packing fat rather than muscle :(
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I don't buy it. Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying.


It is irrelevant if you count trace carbs or not. When you need to drop direct carbs then carbs drop globally.

If you are shooting for 100 and getting 50 additional through trace sources(pb for example) and need to pull some, you remove 50g. You now might get 100g total vs 150.

Its all relative.
 
You really HAVE to break the mindset. Is it that you just aren't hungry? Eat higher cal foods instead...
 
I want to try this, but I eat at a college campus buffet style place. So I can't really know for sure the cals I take in. Any one do this before?

I have leaned up nicely over the last half year and want to stay lean while adding some mass before I start a cycle with a conventional diet this summer.
 
No it is more of a phobia or fear of getting obese again. My wife used to have eating disorders and now she gets antsy any time she has to count calories at all because she feels compelled to go nuts counting everyting and hardly eating at all.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I am going to be incorporating Lyle MacDonalds Rapid Fat Loss Handbook Crash Diet into the Lean Gains 16/8 windows. I let myself get a bit out of control recently and to bring things back in under control and kick start my discipline again I am going to do Lyle's Crash Diet. I won't go to into it right here but basically it is 1-1.5 g protein per lb of LBM. You take in as little trace carbs and fat as possible other than 6 fish oil caps a day and a multi-vitamin.

Now being that I am already still decently in shape, I will only be doing 1 short round of the diet which will be 11 days of extremely low cals, and carbs somewhere in the 1200-1400 cals range. After which I do a 3 day carb up where I take in about 800 carbs one day 400 the next and say 200 the 3rd day at which point I will begin eating maintenance for 2 weeks before dropping cals again which will only be a small drop to get the fat moving again and I will spend the rest of the diet in a more relaxed dieting mode.

Basically I will eat 3 times on weight training days.

Will look like this:
4AM, 6AM, 8 AM, 10 AM aminos 12:00PM Break fast with 100g protein 20 of it coming from fat free cottage cheese, 3:30 PM 50-60 grams protien, dinner 100 grams protein 20 coming from cottage cheese.

I will eat 2 times on cardio days.

Will look like this:
4AM, 6AM, 8 AM, 10 AM, 12:00 PM and 2:00PM aminos 3:30PM Break fast with 100g protein 20 of it coming from fat free cottage cheese, 7:00 PM Dinner = 100 grams protein 20 coming from cottage cheese.

In theory I should lose anywhere from 11-20 lbs total bodyweight and 4-7 lbs of actuall fat mass in the 2 week period with minimal if any muscle loss. I am hoping this gets me down to where I prefer to be and then I can diet down to however lean I want once I have given myself this headstart. I will be starting this on Monday and will probably link up a log in here detailing how everything went.
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I'm super interested to hear how this crash diet works out. It sounds like something I would be interested in down the road with good feedback from you.
 
MrKleen73 said:
No it is more of a phobia or fear of getting obese again. My wife used to have eating disorders and now she gets antsy any time she has to count calories at all because she feels compelled to go nuts counting everyting and hardly eating at all.
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Kleen... the closest you could ever get to Obese is if someone saw you take your shirt off and then gasped "He's a BEAST" under their breath!!!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Kleen... the closes you could ever get to Obese is if someone saw you take your shirt off and then gasped "He's a BEAST" under their breath!!!
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LMAO! Thanks!

Although, I have been obese before, and am in a constant fight against the return to anything resembling my former self.
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO! Thanks!

Although, I have been obese before, and am in a constant fight against the return to anything resembling my former self.
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I know bro, you have shown me the picts and I've been there myself! I completely understand, we are ENDOMORPH's constantly fighting our genetics to look like MESOMORPH's, that is a very simplistic version of it, the the truth none-the-less!
 
Hey guys, I've been doing the IF part of Leangains for a week or two, but not calorie counting. I plan to change that and take it seriously, since I am so close to losing the fat I want and just want to do it already. Hoping you guys could critique my calorie and macro breakdown and offer any tweaks.

My stats: 6'2", ~204lbs, ~13% BF. I workout with free weights 4x a week, doing heavy compounds at 4-8 reps/set, about 4 sets, and finishing off with assisting minor muscle sets, 2 or 3 (being triceps on chest day, biceps on back day, etc). And yes, I am doing deads and squats.

I calculated my BMR using the LBM formula [BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)] to be ~2100 cals per day, x1.2 activity factor =2500.

I used this site to get my macro breakdowns: Invalid Link RemovedSo, using a format of +10% cals on workout days, -35% on rest, I got 2750 cals on W/O, 1625 on rest.

Using that site to calculate macro breakdowns, I got the following:

Workout days: 230g protein, 30g fat, 390g carbs

Rest Days: 230g protein, 50g fat, 60g carbs

My goal is simply to lose fat as fast as possible, while not losing much, if any, muscle mass or performance in the gym. I am at the point where I can see the faint outline of my abs, and want to get them already! Any advice? :)
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO! Thanks!

Although, I have been obese before, and am in a constant fight against the return to anything resembling my former self.
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Dude I feel your pain..hah

Good luck brotha! I am still bulking away. I wasn't using IF at all, but it just keeps creeping back into my life. So many days I just don't want to eat until 12! Almost doing IF on non wo days now, and 5 meals a day on WO days. I am up about 27lbs from my dieted state..lol
 
hypo said:
Hey guys, I've been doing the IF part of Leangains for a week or two, but not calorie counting. I plan to change that and take it seriously, since I am so close to losing the fat I want and just want to do it already. Hoping you guys could critique my calorie and macro breakdown and offer any tweaks.

My stats: 6'2", ~204lbs, ~13% BF. I workout with free weights 4x a week, doing heavy compounds at 4-8 reps/set, about 4 sets, and finishing off with assisting minor muscle sets, 2 or 3 (being triceps on chest day, biceps on back day, etc). And yes, I am doing deads and squats.

I calculated my BMR using the LBM formula [BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)] to be ~2100 cals per day, x1.2 activity factor =2500.

I used this site to get my macro breakdowns: Invalid Link RemovedSo, using a format of +10% cals on workout days, -35% on rest, I got 2750 cals on W/O, 1625 on rest.

Using that site to calculate macro breakdowns, I got the following:

Workout days: 230g protein, 30g fat, 390g carbs

Rest Days: 230g protein, 50g fat, 60g carbs

My goal is simply to lose fat as fast as possible, while not losing much, if any, muscle mass or performance in the gym. I am at the point where I can see the faint outline of my abs, and want to get them already! Any advice? :)
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Hum, I would re-visit this caloric breakdown, it seems too low if you ask em.

I'm at 215 and I pack in about 4k calories on WO days, I think 2700 may be too little.

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I would also take a look at the fat intake on the rest days; I personally enjoy placing the carbs on hold during my rest days and bumping up the fat intake during those. I'm usually at a 45% protein, 45% fat and 10% carbs on those.
 
bla55 said:
Hum, I would re-visit this caloric breakdown, it seems too low if you ask em.

I'm at 215 and I pack in about 4k calories on WO days, I think 2700 may be too little.
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His seems about right with the main focus on fat loss IMO. The off day may be a little low(to start), but what do you expect when running it at -35%..heh
 
Frank Reynolds said:
His seems about right with the main focus on fat loss IMO. The off day may be a little low(to start), but what do you expect when running it at -35%..heh
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I am doing a set up like the poster above, will let you all know how it goes. I do high protein, high carb, low fat and then straight Keto on off days.
 
So right now I am normally training around 10am and breaking my fast around noon which is perfect for my post workout shake... within a month or two if i dont get a different job I will be back to training at 5am... do you guys really think its ok to train heavy and not take in post workout nutrition for 4 or 5 hours after working out...

it would be a pain in the ass to change my fast breaking to 7am and then never be able to eat dinner with the gf but it could be done... would just rather keep my eating period noon-8pm

opinons?
 
I have not eaten directly after a workout in 1 year except for my Saturday workouts. Honestly with aminos right around the workout there is nothing being lost as far as I can tell. The body is so hungry by the time you feed yourself a couple hours later that it sucks up everything it can and causes a major anabolic event with the fast breaker so it works out the same if not better.
 
FlawedGrunt said:
So right now I am normally training around 10am and breaking my fast around noon which is perfect for my post workout shake... within a month or two if i dont get a different job I will be back to training at 5am... do you guys really think its ok to train heavy and not take in post workout nutrition for 4 or 5 hours after working out...

it would be a pain in the ass to change my fast breaking to 7am and then never be able to eat dinner with the gf but it could be done... would just rather keep my eating period noon-8pm

opinons?
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i do it the way you are suggesting, working out from 7am-8am, then not eating until after 12. Your body isn't a digital calculator, it takes more than a few hours one way or the other for anything to be an issue. Think about it, if you eat a solid meal as post workout, how long is it till its digested anyhow? And when muscle is broken down, its not like the aminos turn into dust, they get scavenged and reused to some extent.
 
I did it for a long time as well. Trained at 6am, ate at noon. I do prefer to the protocol I later switched to though, where I ate at 1pm, lifted from 2-4, and ate at 5pm. It is more preference then a results thing though. I love eating a **** ton of food after training, there is just something extremely satisfying about that.
 
Do these numbers look about right to you guys?

Workout days (-7%)(I dropped the cals down about 5 %):
2890 Calories
284g Carbs (40%)
238g Protein (33%)
85.3g Fat (27%)

Non Workout days: (-35%)
1958 Calories
78.3g Carbs (16%)
215.4g Protein (44%)
87g Fat (40%)

Do you think my carb intake needs to rise yet for workout days? According to the leangain calculator Invalid Link Removed this should be good for a weight loss of about 1.5lbs a week... am I selling myself short by cutting my workout day calories a bit low?
 
12AM Training

I work the second shift, 3:30PM-12AM. Any advice on setup times for feeding and fasting would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in avance for your time.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys, I will just stay on the protocol I posted and see how it goes.

Today was my first workout day on the diet.

I discovered that with 2750 calories it is very hard to keep fat to 30g... I ended up at about 40 just due to incidental fat (besides 4g fish oil). So I cut the rest from carbs.

I might end up cutting the carbs more on rest days so I can add more fats too. Its hard staying under even 50g fat when you're supposed to be eating mostly fats and protein. So I might just do a keto type diet on rest days and get any carbs from incidentals.

I don't mind if my macros fluctuate a little bit as long as my calorie goals are +/- 100 cals or so every day. We'll see how it goes.
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Do you think my carb intake needs to rise yet for workout days? According to the leangain calculator Invalid Link Removed this should be good for a weight loss of about 1.5lbs a week... am I selling myself short by cutting my workout day calories a bit low?
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Thanks for this link. Makes studying different possible paths a lot easier. I decided to go with a slightly different route :)

My new scheme is +5/-30, 230g P/40g F/350g C on workout days; 230g P/75g F/40g C on rest days (80/20 Carb to Fat alternating split on rest and workout days)
 
Ok so my $1,000,000 question ... U ready??

Hahahaha jk but did anybody that went from a religious 8 meals a day, protein shakes, counting carbs, calories etc etc etc ...

Had a hard time transitioning to this? I think that the day I start I'll be punching ppl in the face left and right

Also on the drinking part ... I read his article on leangains.com about it ... Anybody put this in effect?
How many drinks were u having? Reason I ask I cuz bars here they just pour alcohol they don't measure it so somebody that might be in a similar situation? How many drinks? Where u doing? I'm a typical Vodka be sugar free redbull guy followed by shots of patron so won't have the carb issue

Anyways .. I have 10lbs (literally) of Whey Protein ... 7 lbs of Casein ... ****load of Creatine ... How can I employ em?
Oh yeah and Jack3d

Anybody tried the BCAAs from USPlabs for these? Any good? Or what's a good recommendation?

I work out in the afternoon anyways
 
hypo said:
Thanks for this link. Makes studying different possible paths a lot easier. I decided to go with a slightly different route :)

My new scheme is +5/-30, 230g P/40g F/350g C on workout days; 230g P/75g F/40g C on rest days (80/20 Carb to Fat alternating split on rest and workout days)
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Youre welcome my friend!
 
Well guess I'm giving this a shot tomorrow, got my BCAAs easy for the morning, sip on em 10g every 2 hrs
Hit the gym at 11-1
And then a protein shake with oats, a wheat turkey footlong from subway with extra chicken I'm taking from home
All that about 1k+ on Cals, about 80 grams on Carbs, 100 on Pro and low fat
I'm also adding some brown rice if I can stuff my face some more

At 4ish I'll have the rest of the rice and more chicken, some broccoli and Greek yogurt

At 830
I'm kinda screwed because I'm picking up my girl at the airport so I guess maybe subway again since there's a few on the road

Now tomorrow is my cardio day, but I'm also doing abs so it's alright to count it as a work out day right? I mean I do about 30 mins of cardio an about 30 mins of Abs (heavy weighted)
 
I have a question regarding the fasting period. I am new to leangains but have been reading for about 3 weeks on the program but couldn't find the answer to my question.


I have been aiming for 18 hour fast because I work from home and my job just requires me to sit on my butt all day at the computer. So I have been breaking my fast around 4pm I workout from 9pm until 12am 3 days a week (M/W/F) and then (Tu/Th) I am in class from 8pm-11pm so I have been consuming all of my calories before 9pm.
My question is about not eating after my workout. I have been taking a protein shake after with 100 calories, and I was drinking one when I wake up in the morning but after reading more and more I have decided to to cut out my morning shake.
So am I doing anything bad by not eating after my workout, and should I cut out my protein shake after? I have been sipping 12g Bcaa throughout the day, and then about 15min before/intra workout I take in 20g bcaa.


So in short and less confusing, should I go back to 16 hour fast and just consume a meal after my workout since in every LG protocol that I see the post wo meal is listed as the most important. Or am I good with just a protein shake, or nothing all together.
 
I'm curious as to how you all would treat my schedule as far as burn/build days.

4 days a wk = mma class for 1-2hrs each
1 or 2 days a wk = weightlifting

Right now I've been keeping my days pretty even and just pigging out one night on the weekend but I would like to get back on track.
 
houstontexas said:
I'm curious as to how you all would treat my schedule as far as burn/build days.

4 days a wk = mma class for 1-2hrs each
1 or 2 days a wk = weightlifting

Right now I've been keeping my days pretty even and just pigging out one night on the weekend but I would like to get back on track.
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I thought you figured that out a few pages back? What's the problem?
 
houstontexas said:
I'm curious as to how you all would treat my schedule as far as burn/build days.

4 days a wk = mma class for 1-2hrs each
1 or 2 days a wk = weightlifting

Right now I've been keeping my days pretty even and just pigging out one night on the weekend but I would like to get back on track.
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Any days off or lighter days would be burn days..., Any weight lifting or very heavy MMA training days like longer or more intensive sessions could be considered wd's...

Lets look at it another way, what makes a wd a wd... Hypertropy any time you induce significant Hypertopy should be treated as a wd and not a burn day...
 
indysoccer16 said:
I have a question regarding the fasting period. I am new to leangains but have been reading for about 3 weeks on the program but couldn't find the answer to my question.


I have been aiming for 18 hour fast because I work from home and my job just requires me to sit on my butt all day at the computer. So I have been breaking my fast around 4pm I workout from 9pm until 12am 3 days a week (M/W/F) and then (Tu/Th) I am in class from 8pm-11pm so I have been consuming all of my calories before 9pm.
My question is about not eating after my workout. I have been taking a protein shake after with 100 calories, and I was drinking one when I wake up in the morning but after reading more and more I have decided to to cut out my morning shake.
So am I doing anything bad by not eating after my workout, and should I cut out my protein shake after? I have been sipping 12g Bcaa throughout the day, and then about 15min before/intra workout I take in 20g bcaa.


So in short and less confusing, should I go back to 16 hour fast and just consume a meal after my workout since in every LG protocol that I see the post wo meal is listed as the most important. Or am I good with just a protein shake, or nothing all together.
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the post workout meal is most important, but nowhere is there evidence that for actual growth or fat loss that the meal coming withing x amount of time postworkout is important. theres a little evidence that DOMs or other soreness might be lower if the meal is consumed closer to the workout, but thats all.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
I thought you figured that out a few pages back? What's the problem?
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No I discussed the feeding window I believe. Extending it due to the change in schedule etc. I could go back and look but meh.
 
houstontexas said:
No I discussed the feeding window I believe. Extending it due to the change in schedule etc. I could go back and look but meh.
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Imo it doesn't matter much. Wo/non build/burn is just a means of cycling calories.

You can do 2 high days on lifting and 1 on mma, you can do 3 on mma, you can do 2 lifting 2 mma and lower the amounts to bring down weekly calories etc.

It is all relative IMO. Run it a couple weeks see how you feel in class, what is happening to weight and body comp and see if you need to make changes.
 
I agree with Frank it isn't too important. Most of us moved to this because you got great results while having extreme simplicity.

As far as Weight training days go obviously those will be higher. Also if your MMA is anything like the ones I did we had days where we did more ground work and rolling and other days we did more stand up. If that is the case then Groundwork and rolling days High intake, Striking days Low calorie days. Otherwise it all comes down to the average for the week. It sounds like a lot of what you do is very performance based, that being the case even on your lower calories days I would not go too low on your carbs. Not saying don't keep them low but maybe on the high side of low like 125-150g.
 
Thanks Frank and Kleen. I think I'm making a big deal about it because I have multiple goals I'm trying to achieve. I want to perform great in my standup and ground game. I want to have ripped abs by summer. I want to at least maintain strength with my minimum lifting. Just making it complicated as I try to figure it all out. Your advice will definitely be applied.
 
houstontexas said:
Thanks Frank and Kleen. I think I'm making a big deal about it because I have multiple goals I'm trying to achieve. I want to perform great in my standup and ground game. I want to have ripped abs by summer. I want to at least maintain strength with my minimum lifting. Just making it complicated as I try to figure it all out. Your advice will definitely be applied.
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Thats an example of what I call "skinny white boy" syndrome :) Overcomplicating things and worrying too much about minutiae. Its best to start implementing simply, and tweak as you go if you aren't seeing results as you like. Easy enough to make changes week to week if necessary.
 
houstontexas said:
Thanks Frank and Kleen. I think I'm making a big deal about it because I have multiple goals I'm trying to achieve. I want to perform great in my standup and ground game. I want to have ripped abs by summer. I want to at least maintain strength with my minimum lifting. Just making it complicated as I try to figure it all out. Your advice will definitely be applied.
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It is very easy to be lean doing all that MMA/BJJ training.

The only thing I might add to days that are intensive, but you might denote as a "low" day is some intra workout carbs/protein(or bcaa).

It doesn't take much to fuel a workout IME. I would mix up a can of coconut water, a small amount of karbolyn/cytocarb, and some peptopro or bcaa.
 
Would be possible and suggestable to try LG out Monday through Thursday next week? I have to go on a road trip next Friday and fasting / dieting just won't work well with life on the road.

I'm probably just getting ahead of myself and should wait as roadtrips end for me in roughy 3 - 4 weeks but just want to change things up a lil. Thx guys
 
EArch said:
Would be possible and suggestable to try LG out Monday through Thursday next week? I have to go on a road trip next Friday and fasting / dieting just won't work well with life on the road.

I'm probably just getting ahead of myself and should wait as roadtrips end for me in roughy 3 - 4 weeks but just want to change things up a lil. Thx guys
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you'll get little value from trying it for a few days, but it probably wont hurt, and will let you get the idea of some of the planning or eating you'll be doing
 
Quick question ladies and gents... So I went over my diet last night and on my burn days... which some are going to be lifting days because I lift 5 days a week and I cant guarantee on saturdays that I can avoid alcohol completely lol (taking the gf out for her bday dinner sat)... but hopefully as long as I keep bcaas high during my workout and protein high that day.. i wont burn muscle.

Anyways I got my protein to about 220, fats to 40-60, and carbs to about 100-105... My carbs on that day are 40 from monster maize, 40 from brown rice, and 10-20 from cottage cheese. Would you suggest that I just drop of the monster maize in my fast break since I'm not actually taking it post workout immediately?

Edit: Also I think I will be avoiding my Agmatine dosing on low carb days. I dosed the last two days and had the appetite of a lion. I literally ate and destroyed everything in my way... good or bad... like that large piece of cake I ate :stupid: Anyone else notice the nutrient aspect of agmatine also increasing their hunger 10 fold?
 
Does anyone IF for 4-5 days and have a more conventional meal schedule for the other days? Not saying I would be eating poorly, just not IFing. Perhaps going low carb the "normal" eating days.

Because of work I can't fully commit to a 7 day a week leangains protocol atleast for 3 more weeks due to traveling on weekends.
 
EArch said:
Does anyone IF for 4-5 days and have a more conventional meal schedule for the other days? Not saying I would be eating poorly, just not IFing. Perhaps going low carb the "normal" eating days.

Because of work I can't fully commit to a 7 day a week leangains protocol atleast for 3 more weeks due to traveling on weekends.
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I do still think there would be some benefit but it might be difficult to stick to as the days you ate early may interfere with your adjusting to the lifestyle...
 
EArch said:
Does anyone IF for 4-5 days and have a more conventional meal schedule for the other days? Not saying I would be eating poorly, just not IFing. Perhaps going low carb the "normal" eating days.

Because of work I can't fully commit to a 7 day a week leangains protocol atleast for 3 more weeks due to traveling on weekends.
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How does traveling effect LG? Just curious as it would seem much easier to me then a traditional diet.
 
Frank Reynolds said:
How does traveling effect LG? Just curious as it would seem much easier to me then a traditional diet.
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Frank... a diet is a diet, whether it is the traditional bodybuilder-esk diet that I follow (6 small meals throughout the day) or the LG with the fasting or not, a diet is a diet and unfortunately we as society (because I have been guilty of this in the past as well, we all have at one point in time) will let just about any excuse deter us from doing what is hard and we would rather not do (diet and exercise included). There will always be obstacles, if you want it bad enough, you will find a way to over-come these obstacles and do what is necessary to achieve your goals. And also like the old cliche, "Excuses are like A$$holes, everyone has one!"

But hey, back on point to what you said, I agree 100% that LG would definitely be a very easy diet to follow when traveling and have time restraints, etc.
 
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