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The Future of Primordial Performance

So you think a company will be able to clone your product and have it ready to be shipped before your actually able to release the original?

That actually sounds like a fair assessment, actually.
 
So you think a company will be able to clone your product and have it ready to be shipped before your actually able to release the original?

That actually sounds like a fair assessment, actually.

Cry about it.

Why shouldn't PP reap the rewards as long as possible?
 
So you think a company will be able to clone your product and have it ready to be shipped before your actually able to release the original?

That actually sounds like a fair assessment, actually.
Not to just pop in this thread, but bitching about a company not releasing a product because of a quality control issue is retarded. Furthermore, any moron with a Staples label maker and some bulk rice flour can create a product legal for sale and f'ing worthless. I'll wait for PP to do what they do.
 
Oh, and everyone should wish John (T1) a very happy 32nd birthday! :fest30:

Happy birthday big bad John. :fest30:

Intense respect and heart-felt honor for ya brotha. :hail:
 
So I have a question, just because your products failed QC why don't you release the information on time? What is the point of withholding the information if it was only the QC checks that failed?

So you think a company will be able to clone your product and have it ready to be shipped before your actually able to release the original?

That actually sounds like a fair assessment, actually.

Why would we release specific product information before QC information was confirmed? To give a competitor any insight into all the hard work and innovative development we've done over the last 6+ months? I don't think so...

Maybe you're unaware (or ignorant) to how many shady people and companies exist in this industry? It's cut-throat, and many people will rip you off and run with it at any chance they get. We're protecting our investment while ensuring the quality of our product before production like any smart company would be doing; that's what good businesses do.

When the QC's check out and we can confirm that we have what we need, then the full write-ups will be released. Until then, it's not gonna happen. The same question has been asked numerous times, and I'm going to keep giving the SAME answer. I'm sorry you don't agree, but that's too bad, and it's the way it's going to be.

Any more questions?





-John
 
While it's disappointing to hear about the AndroSeries' setback, the current New Years sale is the perfect opportunity to pick up any on-cycle and post-cycle supports to accompany the the AndroSeries release!

Oh, and everyone should wish John (T1) a very happy 32nd birthday! :fest30:

Well then.... Happy Birthday John !!! :)

Happy birthday big bad John. :fest30:

Intense respect and heart-felt honor for ya brotha. :hail:

Thanks, Guys!

It was a pretty quiet birthday this year. The whole family is sick (except me) right now, so I've had to play murse both at work and at home this week, haha.

I hope 2011 is good to us all!




-John
 
Clothes...lol!

Actually, we're buying a new car this week, so a lot of funds are tied up there.

At least I'll have a new ride to cruise around in for 2011. :D





-John

Gonna be rollin on dubs? I got my caprice in the shop right now getting a lift kit put on so I can stunt like a rapper with 40" rims.
 
Hey, quick question, could you technically stack these with other steroids? I mean if its not toxic, I would think that meant non methylated. I'm sure you can't confirm or deny any part of the compound, but the question really is.. can one add these in on top of others.

The reason I am asking is I plan to stock up on the andro series when its released. However I have enough right now for constant cycles for the next year and a half or more. Once I reach two years of stack I'm going to have to refrain from buying lol. So I'm pretty reserved right now for the Andro, but if its stackable it opens up plenty more options!
 
Gonna be rollin on dubs? I got my caprice in the shop right now getting a lift kit put on so I can stunt like a rapper with 40" rims.

You Donkin' it SB??:icon_lol:
 
Hey, quick question, could you technically stack these with other steroids? I mean if its not toxic, I would think that meant non methylated. I'm sure you can't confirm or deny any part of the compound, but the question really is.. can one add these in on top of others.

The reason I am asking is I plan to stock up on the andro series when its released. However I have enough right now for constant cycles for the next year and a half or more. Once I reach two years of stack I'm going to have to refrain from buying lol. So I'm pretty reserved right now for the Andro, but if its stackable it opens up plenty more options!

Yes that's one of the great things about the AndroSeries, they in essence can be stacked in some way with any cycle.
 
The way things are going..those cycles won't be possible until mid Feb. A six weeker doesn't leave much room for cutting before late spring/early summer :frustrate

Tren plus AndroMass alone would be a pretty hefty bulking cycle. I'm not sure you would even want to cut so soon afterwards...
 
Tren plus AndroMass alone would be a pretty hefty bulking cycle. I'm not sure you would even want to cut so soon afterwards...

I stay pretty lean (10-12%) even while bulking (zero cardio).. I'd probably take 2-3 weeks of slightly over maintenance after pct then drop to just maintenance and start doing cardio.
 
Clothes...lol!

Actually, we're buying a new car this week, so a lot of funds are tied up there.

At least I'll have a new ride to cruise around in for 2011. :D





-John

Did you guys get one picked out yet?

I just wish I could get my truck up and running for some off roading, mmmmmm dirt.

Btw happy belated bday brother!
 
:biggthumpup:

Only problem is putting down 4k calories to lean bulk.

I love food.. but most days it's tough to find the time.

Learning to use shakes and pre-cook lots of chicken/beef.

Sundays nights during bulks for me is spent preparing a **** ton of food for the week. It is the best way to ensure you are getting it done. No excuses.
 
^^^Here..Here:biggthumpup:
 
:biggthumpup:

Only problem is putting down 4k calories to lean bulk.

I love food.. but most days it's tough to find the time.

Learning to use shakes and pre-cook lots of chicken/beef.

4K calories and I'd be clinically obese, bar none, WITH cardio.
 
4K calories and I'd be clinically obese, bar none, WITH cardio.

How is that possible, LOL? Not so long ago I was eating 4,300 calories as Maintenance! :lmao:
 
How is that possible, LOL? Not so long ago I was eating 4,300 calories as Maintenance! :lmao:

Sounds like his body is the same as mine. I have to eat around 2,500 WHILE working out (including cardio) to lose.




(And yes, I've actually tracked total cals and macros multiple times and I gain above this... And yes, it sucks.)
 
That would save me a bundle of money on food!!^^^
 
:notworthy: I eat that much now! I was eating over 10,000 back in the day
10,000 calories sounds like a full-time job! That's awe-inspiring to me! When I was deployed, I was taking in a little over 4000 as maintenance/cutting (actually could've used about 4500-5000 I think), but THAT felt ridiculously difficult! Some dedication you have!
 
:notworthy: I eat that much now! I was eating over 10,000 back in the day

Yep - when I was cycling I was eating ~10,000 calories a day :D
 
10k is obsurd. I mean really, when I look at my day and what I eat, and how bloated it makes me feel.. **** you would have to eat every 2 hours from like 7am to 11 pm and big meals! lol. I guess if you build up to it your stomach expands and you can ingest more and more... I've already upped about 3-400 putting me right about 4200/day. Some days are harder than others though.
 
It all depends on your activity level/training level, I easily ate 10,000-12,000 no problem.
 
It all depends on your activity level/training level, I easily ate 10,000-12,000 no problem.

Yep. That's like all the people whose jaws dropped when they heard about the Michael Phelps daily diet lol. But genetics definitely play a role in it, too. I used to play full-court pick-up basketball games for upwards of 3 hours a night 4x a week or so in college and still carried a pretty decent amount of bodyfat while eating very little (that was back when I didn't fully understand nutrition or track cals and macros, though).

And to the "saves money on food" comment; I am actually very thankful for it. There are days it sucks when I have to eat so "little" but I can't even imagine having to eat 2-4x what I do now like some have.
 
10k is obsurd. I mean really, when I look at my day and what I eat, and how bloated it makes me feel.. **** you would have to eat every 2 hours from like 7am to 11 pm and big meals! lol. I guess if you build up to it your stomach expands and you can ingest more and more... I've already upped about 3-400 putting me right about 4200/day. Some days are harder than others though.

Not really - not when you can easily eat a ~4,00 calorie meal :lol: I never had a problem with it, since I do not have an "off" switch when it comes to food, and I never got full, so I could keep on eating . . .


woah, 10k is crazy. how is that possible, tho, since your a girl + being very light? i would think your body wouldnt need as many cals

Trust me, it's definitely possible. Being a female and light makes no difference - I was and maintained ~110 pounds when I was cycling (about what I am now, but without the muscle mass anywhere but my legs), and I was training intensely for 30-40 hours a week (when I say that what I do now feels like nothing, you can see why). I was easily expending ~10,000 calories a day, so it's nothing to put it all back in.


It all depends on your activity level/training level, I easily ate 10,000-12,000 no problem.

^^^ Activity level plays the biggest factor here, not sex or weight.

~Rosie~
 
And I remember complaining about eating 5k a day.

Now I look at that and its just chump change compared to you guys.

brb making a huge meal to make up for my stupidity :P
 
woah, 10k is crazy. how is that possible, tho, since your a girl + being very light? i would think your body wouldnt need as many cals

It all depends on your activity level/training level, I easily ate 10,000-12,000 no problem.

I could probably eat 10,000 calories a day, if it was dirty ie.. pizza,ice cream, cup cakes and beer. But 10,000 calories of chicken breasts, broccoli and tuna I'm not so sure i could pull off.:bigeyes::boggled::pat:
 
I could probably eat 10,000 calories a day, if it was dirty ie.. pizza,ice cream, cup cakes and beer. But 10,000 calories of chicken breasts, broccoli and tuna I'm not so sure i could pull off.:bigeyes::boggled::pat:

Trust me, when you need to eat that much, you don't care WHAT it comes from - I ate for performance and energy when cycling, and the only real difference now is that I have learnt what my body is sensitive to and what makes me feel like sh*t, taking measures to manage my health better.

~Rosie~
 
I could probably eat 10,000 calories a day, if it was dirty ie.. pizza,ice cream, cup cakes and beer. But 10,000 calories of chicken breasts, broccoli and tuna I'm not so sure i could pull off.:bigeyes::boggled::pat:

The easiest way to handle 10k cals a day is by making homemade weight gainer shakes.

Fat Free Vanilla Ice Cream
Skim Milk
Liquid Egg Whites
2TBSP of Natty PB
1 scoop of Whey Protein
1 Banana or some other fruit to use as flavor
1 cup of oats

Add in 2 or 3 of these a day along with eating lean meats, etc and hitting the 10k mark isn't all that hard and not to mention you would still be consuming relatively healthy food. :)


Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
The easiest way to handle 10k cals a day is by making homemade weight gainer shakes.

Fat Free Vanilla Ice Cream
Skim Milk
Liquid Egg Whites
2TBSP of Natty PB
1 scoop of Whey Protein
1 Banana or some other fruit to use as flavor
1 cup of oats

Add in 2 or 3 of these a day along with eating lean meats, etc and hitting the 10k mark isn't all that hard and not to mention you would still be consuming relatively healthy food. :)


Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance

That's looks like a Monster Shake!!:shocked:
 
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