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The Future of Primordial Performance

I don't understand how a company can loose data!
That is so incompetent that is blow's my mind.
It's so unresponsible, and to me if your going to release something then make sure you have your stuff together, and safe in one place! I mean you could even use a USB drive! Like really?

Blow's my mind. How are you going to come to the industry, with a product that will "Revolutionize" the industry, yet have set back after set back after set back!

How do you expect someone to purchase the product, especially one that is costly...
AFTER LOOSING YOUR DATA!!!

Whom ever is dealing with the data backup, and/or website needs to be fired!
Sorry that is absolutely unacceptable!
 
cbr1000rr said:
lololol its just funny at this point. we should start taking bets on when it will actually be released. my moneys on april before we see anything substantial
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Right now I am questioning there credibility on the "Andro Series"
 
OnTheRoadTo said:
And yet they're still readily legally available - don't use FUD to push your product
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They aren't sold legally. They aren't "dietary supplements" they are "unlicensed pharmaceuticals". The FDA has been taking a tougher and tougher stance, and can prosecute for any of those compounds given the wording of the last ban that included phera. The only way they were ever sold at all is because some of the wording of some of the regulations required the FDA to ask you to prove that the product was found in nature, and a manufacturer was either forced to do that or discontinue the product.

And I don't work for primordial, I work for AI sports, that only has all natural products. I'm wishy washy about this line until I see a bunch of users having tried it, as a 2 stage prohormone conversion seems iffy (with all the difference people have in the conversion enzymes). Some people may get spectacular results while others get less so, unless there is a bunch of other ingredients in there that help with enhancing the enzyme levels.
 
I say that in the end they are going to lower the prices.
 
T50 said:
Supposedly that was in the write ups. Too bad we'll never get them.
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I don't know why people keep saying that there will be no write-ups. Where did you guys hear there will be no write-ups?
 
Man....only in bad German porn will you find more pissing and moaning than you do in these threads bashing PP. LOL....I say 95% or more of the whiners are not going to even consider buying this stuff anyway.
 
Injectable Test E... imo safer, and cheaper!
Scientific proof, all you need is Test E, and an AI, and PCT. Quality gains that you will keep, and that wont disappear if you are not a retard and you Post Cycle properly!
 
S.K said:
Injectable Test E... imo safer, and cheaper!
Scientific proof, all you need is Test E, and an AI, and PCT. Quality gains that you will keep, and that wont disappear if you are not a retard and you Post Cycle properly!
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The point is legality. I don't think injectable steroids should be illegal, but they are. And yes, we know injecting is cheaper.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
The point is legality. I don't think injectable steroids should be illegal, but they are. And yes, we know injecting is cheaper.
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Keep in mind also that there is a LOT of counterfeit crap out there. Much of which is contaminated with impurities and has little or no AA stuff in it.
 
islandmagic said:
that is the IT Fault .. if you are coding or doing any kind project then you should have a netwrork Drive to save your work. that is just crazy !!!!
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Me and the rest of the technical staff thought that it was a mix of sabotage and incompetence on behalf of the management. I'm just saying that for all of the back up technology out there it still doesn't stop a person with the knowledge and the will to do so can screw you hard core. Something like that could have happened here. I hope that it isn't just hype mongering.
 
macdon1588 said:
Me and the rest of the technical staff thought that it was a mix of sabotage and incompetence on behalf of the management. I'm just saying that for all of the back up technology out there it still doesn't stop a person with the knowledge and the will to do so can screw you hard core. Something like that could have happened here. I hope that it isn't just hype mongering.
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Ok I can go with that... It funny I was upset sad mad now I am happy that PP change the date until 11:59 pm tomorrow... funny thing is we still need to wait 6 to 7 weeks before the product comes in and then wait some more on the log so I am thniknig it will be about 14 weeks before we can tell if it is worth buying...
 
the dog ate my homework. I thought reports were not due till next week. Then you fake sick and tell your mom U wanna stay home from school. PP has sounded like a child who didn't do his homework the whole time bragging how FU*King great it is wtf Bit*hes I hav spent hundreds @ pp but no more. Pin to win. All the B.S. this might work on half the ppl half the time tripple the dose...bla bla bla almost all rep jumping ship. Eric I wish you luck but if don't lurn from your mistakes go sell gasp#$%^& i'S bull sh t cuz you are about to have the cretiabilite of that guy. You didn't lurn from the desasterous last time you posted dates blaming some chines dist. The chines will sell u cardbord and tell u its fish. Trust them to mix your steroids F no.
to save any cred. Nutra needs to stop selling all pp's line till they start actuolly delivering what they say. Yeah im frustrated that I ever spent a nickle with pp.
 
S.K said:
Injectable Test E... imo safer, and cheaper!
Scientific proof, all you need is Test E, and an AI, and PCT. Quality gains that you will keep, and that wont disappear if you are not a retard and you Post Cycle properly!
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I second this!!!! I'm on week 5 test e and will NEVER go back to designor or ph's again...oh how I've missed the darkside....
 
A question still remain. Does the word steroide (aka steroids ) is still on the box ? If so go luck to get that over the border !!
 
i gave up on the androseries 3 set backs ago. thats not to say i wont use them down the road but that will be after many many logs. at that point hopefully we'll get a better idea on how many non-responders there are and see if its worth my time and money. these may have a bio-eq to x compound but they are still dhea in the end and everyone will respond very differently. for now ill stick to my legal test along with my well primo which doesnt need a bio-eq or the need to convert.

i too was looking very forward to the write ups and am disappointed but they along with the products will get here
 
Hundatar said:
the dog ate my homework. I thought reports were not due till next week. Then you fake sick and tell your mom U wanna stay home from school. PP has sounded like a child who didn't do his homework the whole time bragging how FU*King great it is wtf Bit*hes I hav spent hundreds @ pp but no more. Pin to win. All the B.S. this might work on half the ppl half the time tripple the dose...bla bla bla almost all rep jumping ship. Eric I wish you luck but if don't lurn from your mistakes go sell gasp#$%^& i'S bull sh t cuz you are about to have the cretiabilite of that guy. You didn't lurn from the desasterous last time you posted dates blaming some chines dist. The chines will sell u cardbord and tell u its fish. Trust them to mix your steroids F no.
to save any cred. Nutra needs to stop selling all pp's line till they start actuolly delivering what they say. Yeah im frustrated that I ever spent a nickle with pp.
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you sir, deserve a golden star for all the hard work and effort it must have taken you to make such a clear and informative post
 
Hundatar said:
Nutra needs to stop selling all pp's line till they start actuolly delivering what they say. Yeah im frustrated that I ever spent a nickle with pp.
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Blah blah blah.......

So, are you saying this delay magically caused all the other great products in the past to change into bad ones? :thinking:
 
hoopem6 said:
CONFIRMED

AndroLean: $79.95

AndroHard: $129.95

AndroMass: $199.95

*Prices reflect the pre-sale price.
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considering im only int in ah i dont think the prices are that bad whether its 4 or 6 weeks. but then again im not a college kid without a job.
 
ambulldog said:
considering im only int in ah i dont think the prices are that bad whether its 4 or 6 weeks. but then again im not a college kid without a job.
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Andromass for example, $200. But, if you figure in that you are not supposed to need liver protection, that offsets the price a small amount if compared oral methyls. Also, "IF" the other sides are low and the stuff works, that has some value. This will be interesting to watch for sure.
 
Coolazice said:
No, she's not. She did say she'd still be around though.
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Thank you for the info.. Then I am done Trauma1 and Rosie are some good folks that allways help out- for them to drop out before the new PP products are out speaks volumes on somthing is not right... Sorry PP I was writing in this thread to have fun and was upset but now I know you lost two folks I have great recpect for... See you I hope you folks make everyone happy on the new lunch...
 
EasyEJL said:
They aren't sold legally. They aren't "dietary supplements" they are "unlicensed pharmaceuticals". The FDA has been taking a tougher and tougher stance, and can prosecute for any of those compounds given the wording of the last ban that included phera. The only way they were ever sold at all is because some of the wording of some of the regulations required the FDA to ask you to prove that the product was found in nature, and a manufacturer was either forced to do that or discontinue the product.

And I don't work for primordial, I work for AI sports, that only has all natural products. I'm wishy washy about this line until I see a bunch of users having tried it, as a 2 stage prohormone conversion seems iffy (with all the difference people have in the conversion enzymes). Some people may get spectacular results while others get less so, unless there is a bunch of other ingredients in there that help with enhancing the enzyme levels.
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Well put, ai is a stand up company. PP and AI are in my top 4 companies, controlled labs is in there as well, the last one I'm still deciding. All companies have set backs. People are acting like pp took their money and never delivered on the goods. If everyone just keeps training hard and eating right, they will continue to make gains without the androseries. Once it comes out I will be watching the logs very closely, then I will make my decision as to whether or not I will try one of them. $199 for andromass seems to be where I will be heading if I try the androseries, throw in some hcg depending on the cycle length and some resveratrol and a SERM for my pct, unless the write ups recommend different, I am looking at right about $300 total for the cycle. Now for those whom have actually done a real aas cycle, think about it. $300 for a short cycle, not that bad. Including western union fees, possible shipping fees, pins, pct, support supplements, gear, you are looking at pretty hefty prices well, and the androseries will bring peace of mind that you aren't going to have some feds waiting for you to open your package or the terrible feeling of getting a seizure letter in the mail and wanting to throw your computer in a lake to hide the evidence. If the gains are close to lets say a short cycle of test and dbol, but safer and around the same price or cheaper, then sign me up. And thats what she said about that...
 
islandmagic said:
Thank you for the info.. Then I am done Trauma1 and Rosie are some good folks that allways help out- for them to drop out before the new PP products are out speaks volumes on somthing is not right... Sorry PP I was writing in this thread to have fun and was upset but now I know you lost two folks I have great recpect for... See you I hope you folks make everyone happy on the new lunch...
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Agreed! I seriously feel bad about this, however gotta do what ya gotta do. Honestly, I could have waited a bit longer, however those prices are my stopping point. I would need to see some logs, results, etc; to make a better determination if I should purchase or not.

I just checked Facebook and all my PP friends have dissappeared, not sure why their not on my friends list anymore, but that sucks! I have nothing but honest and sincere respect for Rosie, Trauma, etc. I wish them the very best!

Very disppointed PP, I have used several of your products in the past with success, nothing can deny that, however i'm afraid this is the end of the road for me.

Good luck in all of you endeavors!

James
 
hoopem6 said:
So... Does the pre-sale price include shipping costs, or...
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I believe pp has free shipping if the order is over $150, or atleast the last time I ordered that was the deal. New website coming though so who knows if any of their shipping/warehousing has changed causing a change in prices or deals.
 
HATEFULone said:
I believe pp has free shipping if the order is over $150, or atleast the last time I ordered that was the deal. New website coming though so who knows if any of their shipping/warehousing has changed causing a change in prices or deals.
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Yeah, I suppose we will find out soon enough...
 
^^^^i agree 100%, the price is steep, but when you factor in legality, quality control, and safety with regards to sides, plus the fact they are oral for the needle phobic people out there, yeah i would assume you will pay a premium vs a vial of test

i have run aas, and $300 is on the low end cycle wise, those are the guys who have a budget and squeeze out what they can, my cycles are nowhere near that

i think is real world user feedback is positive, as in people are making gains that can approach some of the aas comparisons thrown out there...then its a good buy
 
people dont realize with the looming ph ban, thse are the products that will be left, not all the methyls for $50.....no one said this game was cheap
 
Where are people hearing that all of the reps have quit
 
OnTheRoadTo said:
And yet they're still readily legally available - don't use FUD to push your product
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Actually charges from the FDA have already been filed for selling SD, distribution of steroids. It's why no one is making it anymore and those who have are hoping it's not going to happen to them.
 
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