Tested positive for Covid

[GreenMachineX]

There's a lot of things to review here. Did you actually test positive for covid or was it a cold? And did you start taking ivermectin on like the 7th or 8th day? And are you an outlying case? But yeah, doctors are fooled by anecdotal reports all the time. Should you end up in an ICU, do you want us to use the high frequency oscillating ventilator (HFOV) on you or not?

Tested positive, yes. Then son treated tested positive with same symptoms 5 days later. It was covid. Not answering the rest as I know you'll just find loopholes. In every case, they always will be. I will not be responding to you any longer on this subject. As the other poster has said, you have an agenda. We can all see it.

 

[Young Gotti]

Oh, yeah McCullough got fired for covid misinformation. A cardiologist, a smart guy. But no one would say he's the most published guy in his field. In November 2021 the Invalid Link Removed retracted a paper written by Kory, Invalid Link Removed, and others. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of people treated for COVID-19 with the FLCCC's "MATH+" protocol, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment. Marek, also fired.

There are politically partisan nutjobs, even in the medical field. But these are not highly respected doctors. And we're talking about just 3 doctors here among millions.

Dr. McCullough is an internationally recognized authority on the role of chronic kidney disease as a cardiovascular risk state with over 1000 publications and over 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine.
He is the most published scientist in the history of his field.

just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them nut jobs hahahaha

notice how they were highly respected until they didn’t follow the rules when it came to Covid? Yeah, it’s called a smear campaign and the smear is politically motivated, but not by those 3 but by the people attacking them with misinformation

we are done here, you are clueless when it comes to Covid and refuse to be honest , you continue to spout misinformation…better luck convincing another group but you’ve been exposed by several people in this thread and now just grasp at straws

just a word of advice, you might want to get some medical education before attempting to speak on subjects you obviously don’t know a thing about

the OP has seemed to recover which is great news, if anyone else wants to discuss Covid, I’m down

 

[poison]

Until 2020 it's never, ever been used for anything but worms and mites. And even at 2020 it was rosacea due to mites. And some chemotherapy experiments. And that's a fact. And used probably 99% of the time in horses or dogs. Why you're so offended by this very accessible fact is beyond me. If this was a highly versatile drug I get it, but it's not.
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Why do you lie when it's so easily verifiable?

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Ivermectin is an FDA approved drug for use in humans to treat a variety of parasitic infections including parasitic worms, hookworm and whipworm. It may also be used as an effective treatment for a wide range of other conditions and as a treatment of onchocerciasis, intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis or river blindness.

The antiviral activity of Ivermectin has been shown against a wide range of RNA and DNA viruses, for example, dengue, Zika, yellow fever, and others.

 

[poison]

How is it different? A new box and insert? You do realize you are telling people that if they want the FDA approved vaccine they need to wait until the new boxes come out, right? Though it is identical in formula and chemical nature and been in over 100 million people. And this might be in areas where 3 million people are packed together and life and death depend on that vaccine not some backwoods boonies. You realize you can be killing people with that misinformation, right?

It's clear you're illiterate. I posted, verbatim, from the FDA doc, complete with link to said doc. Slow down, read carefully, listen more, speak less.

"For the October 29, 2021 authorization of the manufacturing change to include an additional formulation of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine that uses Tris buffer instead of PBS buffer used in the originally authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, FDA reviewed data on analytical comparability, which uses laboratory testing to demonstrate that a change in product formulation is not expected to impact safety or effectiveness. In the case of PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, multiple different release parameters were evaluated, ranging from product appearance to size of the lipid-nanoparticle to the integrity of the modRNA in the product. Release and characterization tests include tests for purity, composition, and critical attributes of mRNA associated with the activity of the vaccine. In this case, analytical comparability to the current PBS formulation of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine was demonstrated for the Tris formulation of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine through a combination of release and characterization testing. "

Essentially, they ran trial on one version, subbed a different delivery system, ran some theoretic diagnostics in a lab on the NEW system but DID NOT run trial, and went ahead and approved the NEW one, but will not approve the OLD one that had trials and billions of doses administered.

Cliffs: you're still lying.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Hi guys, I'm happy to say myself and my family are all in the clear (Covid free). Thank you all for your support, valuable information, and words of encouragement. You know, in all honesty, I think we should just open up the world and let nature take its course. A vast majority of people will obviously get infected but will experience mild flu-like symptoms which can be easily taken care of with OTC medicines. Anyone who gets an adverse reaction can easily go to the doctor for treatment. And once you've got Covid and recovered, you have antibodies so there's not much to worry about anymore. I honestly think it's the only way to bring some normalcy back to the world. Covid isn't going anywhere so we might as well live with it and dumb it down to a common cold.

For any more discussions on Covid medicines/treatment, we can always make a separate thread on it. Peace bros!

 

[GreenMachineX]

Hi guys, I'm happy to say myself and my family are all in the clear (Covid free). Thank you all for your support, valuable information, and words of encouragement. You know, in all honesty, I think we should just open up the world and let nature take its course. A vast majority of people will obviously get infected but will experience mild flu-like symptoms which can be easily taken care of with OTC medicines. Anyone who gets an adverse reaction can easily go to the doctor for treatment. And once you've got Covid and recovered, you have antibodies so there's not much to worry about anymore. I honestly think it's the only way to bring some normalcy back to the world. Covid isn't going anywhere so we might as well live with it and dumb it down to a common cold.

For any more discussions on Covid medicines/treatment, we can always make a separate thread on it. Peace bros!

This might be what happens with omicron. Cases are way up, but apparently deaths and hospitalizations are down.

 

[Kronic]

covid is so 2021 SMH

 

[thebigt]

covid is so 2021 SMH

lets hope 2022 is better.

 

[poison]

It'll be better if we make it better. If we capitulate to stupid measures, it won't.

Red Pill 2022 (and I don't mean republican persay).

 

[sammpedd88]

It's clear you're illiterate. I posted, verbatim, from the FDA doc, complete with link to said doc. Slow down, read carefully, listen more, speak less.



Essentially, they ran trial on one version, subbed a different delivery system, ran some theoretic diagnostics in a lab on the NEW system but DID NOT run trial, and went ahead and approved the NEW one, but will not approve the OLD one that had trials and billions of doses administered.

Cliffs: you're still lying.

I wish he would say what he actually does at the hospital. What is his title? Patient advocate, janitor or scribe?

 

[mechka_grizli]

This might be what happens with omicron. Cases are way up, but apparently deaths and hospitalizations are down.

apparently this is the case. Over the past two weeks, while the number of Covid cases in the United States has increased by 181%, the number of hospitalizations has increased by 19% and the number of deaths has decreased by 5%.

 

[sammpedd88]

Hi guys, I'm happy to say myself and my family are all in the clear (Covid free). Thank you all for your support, valuable information, and words of encouragement. You know, in all honesty, I think we should just open up the world and let nature take its course. A vast majority of people will obviously get infected but will experience mild flu-like symptoms which can be easily taken care of with OTC medicines. Anyone who gets an adverse reaction can easily go to the doctor for treatment. And once you've got Covid and recovered, you have antibodies so there's not much to worry about anymore. I honestly think it's the only way to bring some normalcy back to the world. Covid isn't going anywhere so we might as well live with it and dumb it down to a common cold.

For any more discussions on Covid medicines/treatment, we can always make a separate thread on it. Peace bros!

Glad you guys are well now!! I totally agree with your post, also!

 

[sammpedd88]

Hi guys, I'm happy to say myself and my family are all in the clear (Covid free). Thank you all for your support, valuable information, and words of encouragement. You know, in all honesty, I think we should just open up the world and let nature take its course. A vast majority of people will obviously get infected but will experience mild flu-like symptoms which can be easily taken care of with OTC medicines. Anyone who gets an adverse reaction can easily go to the doctor for treatment. And once you've got Covid and recovered, you have antibodies so there's not much to worry about anymore. I honestly think it's the only way to bring some normalcy back to the world. Covid isn't going anywhere so we might as well live with it and dumb it down to a common cold.

For any more discussions on Covid medicines/treatment, we can always make a separate thread on it. Peace bros!

Glad you guys are well now!! I totally agree with your post, also!

 

[sammpedd88]

apparently this is the case. Over the past two weeks, while the number of Covid cases in the United States has increased by 181%, the number of hospitalizations has increased by 19% and the number of deaths has decreased by 5%.

I heard a virologist doing an interview on a talk show the week of Christmas and he said the omicron strain is a blessing because it’s showing the virus is weakening. I’m sure our current administration will say it was their doings that lessened the effects of the virus.

 

[Young Gotti]

I heard a virologist doing an interview on a talk show the week of Christmas and he said the omicron strain is a blessing because it’s showing the virus is weakening. I’m sure our current administration will say it was their doings that lessened the effects of the virus.

yes, most virus's overtime weaken, they want to infect more but they don't want to kill their hosts

regardless of anyone's opinion of the vaccines, we all know the vaccines are not stopping people from becoming infected, so if omicron spreads quickly but doesn't cause a lot of damage then the natural immunity that is generated is a blessing

right now, natural immunity is our only way out of this

 

[thebigt]

apparently this is the case. Over the past two weeks, while the number of Covid cases in the United States has increased by 181%, the number of hospitalizations has increased by 19% and the number of deaths has decreased by 5%.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

[sammpedd88]

yes, most virus's overtime weaken, they want to infect more but they don't want to kill their hosts

regardless of anyone's opinion of the vaccines, we all know the vaccines are not stopping people from becoming infected, so if omicron spreads quickly but doesn't cause a lot of damage then the natural immunity that is generated is a blessing

right now, natural immunity is our only way out of this

I totally agree. I don’t fault someone for getting the vaccine if they want it, but I’m on the side of natural immunity. The vaccine seems to be a very slight band-aid for a bigger problem than can be taken care of with natural immunity.

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[thebigt]

I totally agree. I don’t fault someone for getting the vaccine if they want it, but I’m on the side of natural immunity. The vaccine seems to be a very slight band-aid for a bigger problem than can be taken care of with natural immunity.

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my wife and i contracted coronavirus back in march of 2021, recovered from it and haven't been the least bit sick ever since.

our case of coronavirus was very mild and on the off chance we were to contract it again we are more than willing to take our chances---to those who say that only the unvaxxed like my wife and i spread and are responsible for the spread of coronavirus--and vaccinated people don't and can't spread coronavirus- i say go F*ck yourself.

if anyone wants to get the vaccine i say go for it...but i am sick and tired of the biden admin and those who support him to say it is the unvaxxed who are responsible for the spread of coronavirus!!!

 

[poison]

I'm almost comfortable saying it's a FACT that vaxxed spread omicron more. I've posted the study and graph showing as much.

 

[mase1]

Right now it is the vaccinated that are wearing on the medical system. They are the ones running to get tested, going to the hospitals with a runny nose. Unvaccinated are sitting back and aren't worried about positive tests. They just stay home and rest.

 

[thebigt]

Right now it is the vaccinated that are wearing on the medical system. They are the ones running to get tested, going to the hospitals with a runny nose. Unvaccinated are sitting back and aren't worried about positive tests. They just stay home and rest.

'SNOWFLAKES'?

 

[Tunaking14]

Thanosnap-

The ones who are laughing are the ones using it with success while lemmings like you think it doesn't work. Just look at India and the success they have had with it.

How many have seriously studied the scientific reliability of CPR tests? Seriously?

If they are not reliable then what can we really trust when it comes to information that comes out about covid?
I am not the deepdigger myself but quite a few people believe there have been quite a few pieces of false information in media with the purpose of scaring people. Putting together footage and film with sick people and talking about corona.
It doesn´t really take a master director of dystopic science fiction to do that and it seems a majority of earths population actually do believe things because they have seen them on TV.
To even start questioning the possibility of so much both false information and coming from medical authorities as well, even trying to start and question that is probably too mindblowing for the majority of the population.

Glad to see some people who seem to be thinking rather than just believing in this thread!

If you don't believe me then do a little research about the problems encountered with PCR tests. You say you're not a deep digger - I suggest you get to digging.

 

[Tunaking14]

That's a good study. Unfortunately the meta analysis included the Elgazzar paper that had to later be withdrawn due to plaigarism and data manipulation and it accounted for 15.5% of the effect. But, as you can see people are hard at work trying to prove it has any benefit.


I know it probably feels that way. You've run into the same fallacy many others have before you. A Dr gives a patient one thing, he gets better. He gives it to all his patients, and they get better. All doctors give it to their patients and they're getting better. Then a study done all over the world with thousands of patients shows the treatment is actually killing people.

Case in point, up until very recently we were using a very expensive, complicated ventilator called the high frequency oscillating ventilator (HFOV). We thought we were saving people, until such a massive study had to be stopped early because clearly more people were dying on it. We still use it on newborns, and it works for them. Very strange.

You really are an idiot- fallacy............Literally millions of people have used it with success and you deny that fact. Go get your 4th booster and STFU

 

[thebigt]

You really are an idiot- fallacy............Literally millions of people have used it with success and you deny that fact. Go get your 4th booster and STFU

i saw where pfizer has a punch card-get 8th jab and get a free pizza.

 

[Kronic]

i saw where pfizer has a punch card-get 8th jab and get a free pizza.

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[thebigt]

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[poison]

Well now when you put it that way........




lol these idiots. Nothing says 'if you don't take this injection you'll die' like bribing with hookers.

 

[Tunaking14]

You don't have to attack the Mayo Clinic. Their reputation speaks for itself. And this particular doctor was named by President George W. Bush to be president of the Health Defense Board. He's also been president of the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board and worked for over ten years as a consultant to the department. Poland also received the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service in 2004 and a Mastership in the American College of Physicians in 2008. I guarantee he knows a hell of a lot more about this than anyone here.

The thing is we've been trying to cure the flu ever since modern medicine was developed. And what do we have? A vaccine and Tamiflu. It's gonna be awhile before we get anything better for covid.

Now you are really showing how stupid you truly are. Most of these "reports" of people having to call poison centers because they took Ivermectin were proven as outright lies.

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[muscleman]

NAC will always be relevant because it produces glutathione. that's the body's natural anti-inflammatory. I like to inject glutathione a bit more, but I do NAC in between injections

Thanosnap-

The ones who are laughing are the ones using it with success while lemmings like you think it doesn't work. Just look at India and the success they have had with it.


If you don't believe me then do a little research about the problems encountered with PCR tests. You say you're not a deep digger - I suggest you get to digging.

Thing is I am quite convinced already that cpr tests are not very reliable at all. Personally I have been a sceptic towards medical industry and authorities basically since elementary school lol.
I know already so many fake studies of safety profile of new medicine was released by large medical companies before but it was very quickly swept under the rug.
I am convinced in efficiency for use of lysine for herpes from personal experience and when I read this preliminary report about how effective it was against corona I think they are likely telling the truth but I believe that medical industry and authorities in general are not interested in finding out that a cheap readily available amino acid with great safety profile can be used.
What I mean is if they base they corona statistics on the cpr tests that cannot be tested then what can we trust when it comes to official information?
Personally I am afraid it is so bad that a lot of false information is spammed on the people. I know quite a few people convinced that scary footage of corona is used and sometimes even old stock footage that was not recorded at the actual events.
I have since long been convinced that unfortunately a lot of times medical industry as a whole does not have the populations health as their foremost interest but rather greed. Nothing against individual workers who of course are needed.
Anyhow for me its enough to see a few things. This is link in which doctors and scientists are telling about possible dagers with vaccine and telling parents to please dig a bit deeper

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Maybe I am just getting too old and tired of arguing with people of different opinions that I don´t really dig a lot of info to prove my point anymore.
Sometimes it feels as beliefs in medical authorities is similar to deep fundamental religious beliefs or non beliefs and no matter what arguments are put forth they cannot be changed.

What I meant as well, I do realise for many and even more for older people in general and especially for those watching and trusting news for a long time it might be almost impossible to start considering they are lying, unfortunately I know such people. But this is my opinion and they have theirs and many will actually think doubters and sceptics are wrong.

I really wish I am wrong though and that medical industry and authorities really are doing what is best for the population at large but I strongly doubt it unfortunately.
Anyhow stay strong people and no matter what is happening in the world love is always the strongest force

 

[muscleman]

i saw where pfizer has a punch card-get 8th jab and get a free pizza.

I saw the facemasks in Japan with the print I already got my 2nd jab. I guess soon 3rd and 4th and so on comes out as well

 

[muscleman]

Thanosnap-

The ones who are laughing are the ones using it with success while lemmings like you think it doesn't work. Just look at India and the success they have had with it.


If you don't believe me then do a little research about the problems encountered with PCR tests. You say you're not a deep digger - I suggest you get to digging.

Simply put about the CPR tests I feel like like my West Indian neighbour used to say in his heavy rasta accent about things he considered wrong;
"Bombacloud mon!"

 

[thebigt]

I saw the facemasks in Japan with the print I already got my 2nd jab. I guess soon 3rd and 4th and so on comes out as well

they will be getting 8-9 jabs and still telling everyone how effective they are...

joe biden-'if you get the vaccines you won't get covid'......

 

[thebigt]

Well now when you put it that way........




lol these idiots. Nothing says 'if you don't take this injection you'll die' like bribing with hookers.

i think they are desperate for there to be no control group to compare to--i see bad things coming ☹

 

[muscleman]

i think they are desperate for there to be no control group to compare to--i see bad things coming ☹

One facebook acquaintance recently reported about his father until recently perfectly healthy but shortly after 2nd jab got s stroke and had to amputate a body part, I told him I was so sorry but felt sensitive enough not to ask what body part.
Another friend got some serious fever and reactions and maybe he got temporary well but then barely a week later he got sick in something flu like on New Years, I really wish he get well though.

I have no proof but I have heard rumours that there actually are different vaccines going out to people and that some people are already checking different kinds of reactions to different kinds of vaccines, if that is true they are already monitoring control groups

 

[muscleman]

i've heard that there are going to be many different ailments from the vaccines---the non-vaxxers ARE the control group.

Was almost liking your post lol agreeing but not really liking of course.
But even amongst vaccines, all vaccines have barcode and are monitored, some might be likely to cause more of some effects than others. Lets wait for the truth to be unveiled and when they finally come out and say, this is what we did and this is what the statistics look like

 

[thebigt]

Was almost liking your post lol agreeing but not really liking of course.
But even amongst vaccines, all vaccines have barcode and are monitored, some might be likely to cause more of some effects than others. Lets wait for the truth to be unveiled and when they finally come out and say, this is what we did and this is what the statistics look like

of course, time will tell......they are also talking about 'Long Covid' but 6 months after having covid i ran a 7k race and i am 63.

 

[Tunaking14]

Yeah, some vaccinated people can and some can't. And that's scary, and why your vaccination status can affect others. If these vaccines worked 100% of the time (or even 95% of the time as initially advertised) then who cares if you got it so long as the at risk people got it. But as it mutates it's not as effective anymore. But what we do know after going in hundreds of millions of people is that it is safe.

The Covid vaccines are safe? Another dumbass statement by you

that’s one of the main problems…most places will just send you home to rest without any type of early treatment

they simply say, go to the hospital if it gets too severe

it’s disgusting

This is what pisses me off more than anything. When I got it a year and a half ago (and still have the antibodies), the first thing I asked the doctor is what treatment they were going to give me. He said nothing- if it gets bad then you'll have to go to the hospital. I pretty much told him what a POS he was. If I had the flu, they would have given me theraflu. I ordered hydroxychloroquine online and felt much better after taking it for a few days. Along with megadosing Vitamin C.

 

[Tunaking14]

So here's the thing with saying it work, and before you guys go nuclear on me, I'm not against ivermectin. I in fact, hope to have some on hand, if unfortunately I catch covid again. But, as it stands, there is less than 2% chance of death from covid. As it has been said many times in this thread and the other big thread on this subject, the vast majority of people get through covid just fine. If that's the case, you two and many others, could have been just fine as well regardless of the ivermectin.

I've seen various studies on it from biased and non biased sources, and it's still a toss up as to whether or not it works from what I seen. There are HIGHLY respected Dr's who swear by it, and there are HIGHLY respected Dr's who say it doesn't work. Tell someone who doesnt believe it works, and they'll show you a study that it does. Tell someone who says it does work, and they'll show you a study that it doesn't.

Some of the websites showing studies for ivermectin have some serious flaws behind them. "The websites don't include protocol registration with methods, search strategies, inclusion criteria, quality assessment of the included studies or the certainty of the evidence of the pooled estimates. " (not my words)

I believe Ivermectin has its place and helps, but there are some red flags with a lot of the studies posted.

I think the biggest problem is people saying it's not safe when it has been proven to be very safe. High doses of Vitamin C may or may not help with Covid- I'm sure there are studies showing both sides- however, it is safe. If Ivermectin is safe, why not at least try to see if it helps? Same with hydroxychloroquine- myself and dozens of other coworkers took this when we were diagnosed and all of us fought it off quickly. Others we work with who did not have access to it or just didn't want to take it got very sick. HQ has been used by hundreds of millions of people with an almost impeccable safety record. Why not try to see if this helps when one gets sick? This Thanosnap knucklehead is saying none of these work and they are all dangerous. People spouting his nonsense are the dangerous ones.

 

[sammpedd88]

Well now when you put it that way........




lol these idiots. Nothing says 'if you don't take this injection you'll die' like bribing with hookers.

If the vaccine doesn’t kill them, the AIDS will

 

[GreenMachineX]

I think the biggest problem is people saying it's not safe when it has been proven to be very safe. High doses of Vitamin C may or may not help with Covid- I'm sure there are studies showing both sides- however, it is safe. If Ivermectin is safe, why not at least try to see if it helps? Same with hydroxychloroquine- myself and dozens of other coworkers took this when we were diagnosed and all of us fought it off quickly. Others we work with who did not have access to it or just didn't want to take it got very sick. HQ has been used by hundreds of millions of people with an almost impeccable safety record. Why not try to see if this helps one gets sick? This Thanosnap knucklehead is saying none of these work and they are all dangerous. People spouting his nonsense are the dangerous ones.

I think we all need to stop replying to him. We know the truth.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Happy New Year everyone!

 

[thebigt]

Happy New Year everyone!

you too

 

[jmero2]

Starscream, is that you?

 

[muscleman]

I think we all need to stop replying to him. We know the truth.

Sometimes arguments are worth it, sometimes not. Great to see quite a few freethinkers in here though!

 

[Nodus1]

I think we all need to stop replying to him. We know the truth.

You're right. By now he's been weighed and measured, and been found wanting. His posts don't deserve the oxygen of our replies.

 

[poison]

200 million people in just the US alone have been vaccinated. I mean just 1 million is a lot, right? That's the population of Austin, TX. And 3.7 billion people in the world have with various vaccines. You'd think if there was going to be a serious widespread health problem it would've shown itself by now.

Is there a problem if they refuse to look for it? Have you seen how many athletes are dripping dead in the field world wide? Did you know tgey are blaming the effects of the vaccine on covid? Did you know the vaccinated are more vulnerable to omicron?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

[thebigt]

Is there a problem if they refuse to look for it? Have you seen how many athletes are dripping dead in the field world wide? Did you know tgey are blaming the effects of the vaccine on covid? Did you know the vaccinated are more vulnerable to omicron?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

sometimes the people doing the counting is 'THEE' most important variable-eh?

 

[thebigt]

after cdc goes from 10 days to 5 day recommendation for 'isolating' after testing positive, fauci now says cdc is thinking about requiring a negative test before returning to work---THIS WHEN TESTS ARE IN SHORT SUPPLY?

i remember back in march the REQUIRED time for quarantining was 14 days....now it is 5 DAYS???


one would think a guy with around 40 years experience in the field, and with so many resources at his disposal would be better at advance planning--but i guess that would be asking for a lot?

 

[muscleman]

Thanosnap-

The ones who are laughing are the ones using it with success while lemmings like you think it doesn't work. Just look at India and the success they have had with it.


If you don't believe me then do a little research about the problems encountered with PCR tests. You say you're not a deep digger - I suggest you get to digging.

How much of a deep digger are you Tunaking14?
According to some there are no actual scientific proof of the existence of an isolated corona virus according to virus science.
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"A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists." (Massey)
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A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists.

Without this step having been performed and followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments, all claims of this alleged “virus” are nothing but wild speculation backed only by fraudulent science, fraudulent tests and fraud-based diagnoses.

The requests submitted by my colleague in NZ and I (and many of the other submitters) have not been limited to records of isolation performed by the respective institution, or limited to records authored by the respective institution, rather they were open to any records describing “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”) isolation/purification performed by anyone, ever, anywhere on the planet." Invalid Link Removed

According to Massey
"As of January 1, 2022: 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded thus far, as well as some “SARS-COV-2 isolation” study authors, and none have provided or cited any record describing actual “SARS-COV-2” isolation/purification. All of the responses in our collection are available from this page.Every institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the isolation aka purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” directly from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with other sources of genetic material. (Those other sources are typically monkey kidney aka “Vero” cells and fetal bovine serum).

(And, to our knowledge, no one on the planet has ever purified the alleged “virus” even from a cell culture!)" (Massey)"
In this link official replies and more are provided. But will take quite a deepdigger to get through all of this.
And seriously I doubt anybody with a true understanding of scientific virology could come up with proof of isolation of corona. That is my gut instinct. Anyhow here is the link

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[poison]

Look at these stupid mother fuckers.

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'transmission of the coronavirus is primarily through aerosols, which float around in the air — you inhale them — and are not filtered well by cloth masks.'

Yeah no kidding. I remember 2 years of 'cLoTh mAsKs WorK' and intense virtue signaling. Glad they finally decided to stop lying.

 

[Young Gotti]

Look at these stupid mother fuckers.

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'transmission of the coronavirus is primarily through aerosols, which float around in the air — you inhale them — and are not filtered well by cloth masks.'

Yeah no kidding. I remember 2 years of 'cLoTh mAsKs WorK' and intense virtue signaling. Glad they finally decided to stop lying.

Oh just wait, I’ve had this discussion with people before, supplied them over 20 studies to show that they were incorrect

soon everyone is going to swear that they’ve been using fresh n95’s this whole time

 

[poison]

Oh just wait, I’ve had this discussion with people before, supplied them over 20 studies to show that they were incorrect

soon everyone is going to swear that they’ve been using fresh n95’s this whole time

'sciences changes as new data comes in'

Lol morons the data WAS in decades ago. You know it, I know it, we've seen the studies, they just ignored it.

**** them all. I will never forget.

 

[muscleman]

Thanosnap-

The ones who are laughing are the ones using it with success while lemmings like you think it doesn't work. Just look at India and the success they have had with it.


If you don't believe me then do a little research about the problems encountered with PCR tests. You say you're not a deep digger - I suggest you get to digging.

How much of a deep digger are you Tunaking14?
According to some there are no actual scientific proof of the existence of an isolated corona virus according to virus science.
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"A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists." (Massey)
Massey further writes "
A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists.

Without this step having been performed and followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments, all claims of this alleged “virus” are nothing but wild speculation backed only by fraudulent science, fraudulent tests and fraud-based diagnoses.

The requests submitted by my colleague in NZ and I (and many of the other submitters) have not been limited to records of isolation performed by the respective institution, or limited to records authored by the respective institution, rather they were open to any records describing “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”) isolation/purification performed by anyone, ever, anywhere on the planet." Invalid Link Removed

According to Massey
"As of January 1, 2022: 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded thus far, as well as some “SARS-COV-2 isolation” study authors, and none have provided or cited any record describing actual “SARS-COV-2” isolation/purification. All of the responses in our collection are available from this page.Every institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the isolation aka purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” directly from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with other sources of genetic material. (Those other sources are typically monkey kidney aka “Vero” cells and fetal bovine serum).

(And, to our knowledge, no one on the planet has ever purified the alleged “virus” even from a cell culture!)" (Massey)"
In this link official replies and more are provided. But will take quite a deepdigger to get through all of this.
And seriously I doubt anybody with a true understanding of scientific virology could come up with proof of isolation of corona. That is my gut instinct. Anyhow here is the link

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How much of a deep digger are you Tunaking14?
According to some there are no actual scientific proof of the existence of an isolated corona virus according to virus science.
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"A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists." (Massey)
Massey further writes "
A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists.

Without this step having been performed and followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments, all claims of this alleged “virus” are nothing but wild speculation backed only by fraudulent science, fraudulent tests and fraud-based diagnoses.

The requests submitted by my colleague in NZ and I (and many of the other submitters) have not been limited to records of isolation performed by the respective institution, or limited to records authored by the respective institution, rather they were open to any records describing “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”) isolation/purification performed by anyone, ever, anywhere on the planet." Invalid Link Removed

According to Massey
"As of January 1, 2022: 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded thus far, as well as some “SARS-COV-2 isolation” study authors, and none have provided or cited any record describing actual “SARS-COV-2” isolation/purification. All of the responses in our collection are available from this page.
(And, to our knowledge, no one on the planet has ever purified the alleged “virus” even from a cell culture!)" (Massey)"
In this link official replies and more are provided. But will take quite a deepdigger to get through all of this.
And seriously I doubt anybody with a true understanding of scientific virology could come up with proof of isolation of corona. That is my gut instinct. Anyhow here is the link

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What this article is saying is that after asking As of January 1, 2022:
153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded thus far, as well as some “SARS-COV-2 isolation” study authors, and none have provided or cited any record describing actual “SARS-COV-2” isolation/purification
Every institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the isolation aka purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” directly from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with other sources of genetic material.
(Those other sources are typically monkey kidney aka “Vero” cells and fetal bovine serum).

 

[muscleman]

Oh just wait, I’ve had this discussion with people before, supplied them over 20 studies to show that they were incorrect

soon everyone is going to swear that they’ve been using fresh n95’s this whole time

You haven´t gone so far as to even suspect that no proper scientific isolation of corona has been found in any andultered samples after 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded after being asked for as in the article above?

 

[Young Gotti]

You haven´t gone so far as to even suspect that no proper scientific isolation of corona has been found in any andultered samples after 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded after being asked for as in the article above?

yeah that’s been floated around a lot, pretty sure it’s been debunked

also what does it matter? If ppl are getting sick, the focus is on how to make them better

 

[Tunaking14]

How much of a deep digger are you Tunaking14?
According to some there are no actual scientific proof of the existence of an isolated corona virus according to virus science.
Invalid Link Removed

"A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists." (Massey)
Massey further writes "
A Invalid Link Removed in New Zealand and I (CM) and many other people around the world have been submitting Freedom of Information requests to institutions in various countries seeking records that describe the isolation/purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” from any unadulterated sample taken from a diseased patient.

The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments), there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists.

Without this step having been performed and followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments, all claims of this alleged “virus” are nothing but wild speculation backed only by fraudulent science, fraudulent tests and fraud-based diagnoses.

The requests submitted by my colleague in NZ and I (and many of the other submitters) have not been limited to records of isolation performed by the respective institution, or limited to records authored by the respective institution, rather they were open to any records describing “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”) isolation/purification performed by anyone, ever, anywhere on the planet." Invalid Link Removed

According to Massey
"As of January 1, 2022: 153 institutions and offices in over 25 countries have responded thus far, as well as some “SARS-COV-2 isolation” study authors, and none have provided or cited any record describing actual “SARS-COV-2” isolation/purification. All of the responses in our collection are available from this page.Every institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the isolation aka purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” directly from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with other sources of genetic material. (Those other sources are typically monkey kidney aka “Vero” cells and fetal bovine serum).

(And, to our knowledge, no one on the planet has ever purified the alleged “virus” even from a cell culture!)" (Massey)"
In this link official replies and more are provided. But will take quite a deepdigger to get through all of this.
And seriously I doubt anybody with a true understanding of scientific virology could come up with proof of isolation of corona. That is my gut instinct. Anyhow here is the link

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Good find. I have tons of similar stuff but just don't have the time to post most of it. Lots of strange things going on for sure no matter what one believes..........

 

[Tunaking14]

I've been working in intensive care units as a specialist for 12 years now. Never have I seen people dropping dead like flies... hospitals running out of ICU beds, ERs being shut down, morgues running out of space, and bodies being piled into refridgerated trucks. Normally we lose about 5% of our ventilator patients and now it's like 80%. If this novel virus doesn't actually exist, I'd like to know what's causing it.

Also, I'm pretty sure whoever runs that site you linked to has schizophrenia.

ICU's are not running out of beds - hospitals being under staffed is the main issue- there are plenty of bed spaces available. Morgues are not running out of spaces..........what do you do and where do you work? Because it sure as **** isn't anywhere in the southern states because that's all fear propaganda.

 

[Nodus1]

after cdc goes from 10 days to 5 day recommendation for 'isolating' after testing positive, fauci now says cdc is thinking about requiring a negative test before returning to work---THIS WHEN TESTS ARE IN SHORT SUPPLY?

i remember back in march the REQUIRED time for quarantining was 14 days....now it is 5 DAYS???


one would think a guy with around 40 years experience in the field, and with so many resources at his disposal would be better at advance planning--but i guess that would be asking for a lot?

The CDC has gone from (supposedly) following the science, to following public "pushback". If the CDC was actively trying to undermine its credibility, could it do a better job at it than it is already doing?

 

[thebigt]

It should be clear by now that it doesn't matter who is running the country... Hillary, Trump, Biden... Boris Johnson, Putin, Merkel or Stenmeier in Germany, Macron in France, Jinpeng in China, Bolsinaro in Brazil. This virus doesn't bow to political parties. None of them have been able to control it. And the solution is a medical one, not a political one.

But, the president of the Philippines, Duterte said "For those who do not want it, well, for all I care, you can die anytime." I don't think that's been Biden's stance.

you are entitled to your opinion-but i follow politics pretty closely-biden has allowed the virus to divide along political lines without stepping in to end this--you ever look at social media? biden supporters blame trump supporters for the virus spreading and not being wiped out by now 'MAGATS' they call trump supporters--biden ran on 3 things:
STOPPING THE VIRUS
UNITY
HEALING

don't even start on the philippines, i have a connection to the days of marcos-i lived in the barangay of olongapo for 7 years and could at one time speak fluent tagalog.

 

[thebigt]

Yeah I know. It was an election year and Biden had an election to win. I've been on the front lines and talking to liberals in NYC as well as conservative in TX all along telling them it doesn't matter who you elected. Had Hillary won whoever the next Republican nominee was would've attacked Hillary the same way. It's really just a game of the party in charge trying to do something and the opposition party trying to stop them and criticize them every step of the way. The best thing we did was get a vaccine out fairly quickly.

actually i think effective treatments would have been better than a less than effective vaccine...my problem with biden was putting all the eggs in the vaccine basket and allowing the nation to become even more divided over vaccines...the election has been over for over a year so the 'he's got a election to win' boat hasn't held water for quite some time---actually i think the vaccines were only available to general public AFTER biden took office--so the political divide over vaccines is all on bidens watch.

i am holding bidens feet to the fire personally, because the media has failed to hold biden responsible in even close to the same manner as trump was and would be had he been re-elected...can you imagine if trump had won and covid was still advancing at this rate on HIS watch--the media would be yelling bloody murder!!!

i am convinced biden was getting a free ride because many of those who voted for him knew he was damaged goods but voted for him regardless of the damage it might do to the country, just to vote against trump--fortunately many are now understanding the damage they did and are turning against biden....biden has a approval rating of 44%, unfortunately 87% of democrats still support biden but even among democrats his support has dropped 7 points since taking office,

 

[Nodus1]

..can you imagine if trump had won and covid was still advancing at this rate on HIS watch, the media would be yelling bloody murder!!!

bet on it!!!!

Literally.

And we'd be on our 4th or 5th impeachment by now.

 

[thebigt]

We just don't have an effective treatment yet. They're working on it. We'll see how this new Pfizer pill pans out. People are doing Ivermectin studies too. And for about 199 in 200 people infected with this they don't need an effective treatment they turn out fine.

But for that other 1 in 200 people there's nothing yet we can do for them. I've seen them take hydroxychloroquin, remdesivir, ivermectin, and vitamin C (as well as a whole lots of exotic antibiotics and mucolytics most people never heard of) and they still die.

And as far as the vaccines go we know they're safe it's just that the virus is mutating. It's good to have at least some immunity. But the flu kills a whole lot of people every year and despite our best efforts all we have for that is a vaccine and Tamiflu too.

i would have liked to have heard biden talk more about the work being done on treatments, in all honesty all i ever heard him talk about was the vaccines and how it was unpatriotic to not get them...imagine a guy who was a high school football star and then got deferments from going to NAM because of ASTHMA calling me a veteran unpatriotic, lol...damned draft dodger-i heard trump called a draft dodger many times-what about biden?
i also hear trump called a cheater-what about biden-he was cheating with good old jill when she was married to another man-eh joe?