No it's not. I've given it to my dog for heartworm many times, at a dose much, much lower per kg than the dose the anti-viral claims are advocating and it's always been claimed that a side effect for the dog may be seizures. If you're a human and have tapeworm, it's indicated. Otherwise stick to something medically proven. You think Merck wouldn't love for their ivermectin drug to be the cure for covid? But they say don't take it.
Well it's a fact that only 1 in about 200 people who get this die of it. It's just very contagious. And we kind of know what the vulnerable populations are. I wish the link with obesity and dying from this was articulated better and more often. And I like quercetin, zinc and vitamin d in the winter. I also like nasal irrigation and gargling with 0.5-1% iodine. I really do. But these things won't cure you. You likely won't notice a difference.
Same goes for the cold and flu, I mean if you're really worried and go to the doc early you can get Tamiflu but it's effectiveness is debatable. And now we'll see how that new Pfizer pill pans out. But if you start saying "go get some lysine, an anti-malarial proven not to work, and a veterinary de-wormer, etc etc" do you see how nutty that starts to sound? And yeah, monoclonal antibodies and remdesivir needs to be given in an iv over hours so it's never going to be given to the general public.
No it's not. I've given it to my dog for heartworm many times, at a dose much, much lower per kg than the dose the anti-viral claims are advocating and it's always been claimed that a side effect for the dog may be seizures. If you're a human and have tapeworm, it's indicated. Otherwise stick to something medically proven. You think Merck wouldn't love for their ivermectin drug to be the cure for covid? But they say don't take it.
No it's not. I've given it to my dog for heartworm many times, at a dose much, much lower per kg than the dose the anti-viral claims are advocating and it's always been claimed that a side effect for the dog may be seizures. If you're a human and have tapeworm, it's indicated. Otherwise stick to something medically proven. You think Merck wouldn't love for their ivermectin drug to be the cure for covid? But they say don't take it.
Glad to hear your improving! Keep up the protocol!Nice to see my thread is so lively
Update: I'm getting better now. Have a bit more energy and can move about more. The biggest issue is trapped gas. Although I'm taking a prescription stool softener, it's still hard to pass gas properly and trapped gas as you know feels like blades cutting through your gut especially when you go to the bathroom. I'm drinking ginger tea to help alleviate this and also using Helios for anti-inflammatory purposes. Seems to be helping.
You know, I'll say one thing, I think the main reason for all my maladies is extreme stress. I work in a soul-crushing job with long hours of work and constant tension and stress and I think it completely crashed my immune system thereby causing me to get Covid and all the other complications I've endured. I'm telling you guys, it's not worth ruining your health doing a job that makes unhappy, miserable, and emotional/physically/mentally taxes you to your limits.
Glad you are starting to feel better.Nice to see my thread is so lively![]()
Update: I'm getting better now. Have a bit more energy and can move about more. The biggest issue is trapped gas. Although I'm taking a prescription stool softener, it's still hard to pass gas properly and trapped gas as you know feels like blades cutting through your gut especially when you go to the bathroom. I'm drinking ginger tea to help alleviate this and also using Helios for anti-inflammatory purposes. Seems to be helping.
You know, I'll say one thing, I think the main reason for all my maladies is extreme stress. I work in a soul-crushing job with long hours of work and constant tension and stress and I think it completely crashed my immune system thereby causing me to get Covid and all the other complications I've endured. I'm telling you guys, it's not worth ruining your health doing a job that makes unhappy, miserable, and emotional/physically/mentally taxes you to your limits.
You're still pushing narratives like a producer on the Pedophile News Network even though their lies have been widely exposed. You're just trolling now, troll.No it's not. I've given it to my dog for heartworm many times, at a dose much, much lower per kg than the dose the anti-viral claims are advocating and it's always been claimed that a side effect for the dog may be seizures. If you're a human and have tapeworm, it's indicated. Otherwise stick to something medically proven. You think Merck wouldn't love for their ivermectin drug to be the cure for covid? But they say don't take it.
I'm actually taking it now for my rosecea prescribed by my dermatologist. It works very well for that.And I’ve given water to my dog. The drug that won a Nobel prize for use in humans is not suddenly strictly a dog medicine. The drug being used today in humans all over the world is not strictly dog medicine. You don’t think it helps? Fine. But to call it dog medicine when over a billion humans have taken it is just absolutely stupid.
You might want to do some stretching before pulling this level of mental gymnastics to avoid injury Mr. Gates. Hope all is well at Microsoft.
Are you sure it wasn't prescribed by your veterinarian?I'm actually taking it now for my rosecea prescribed by my dermatologist. It works very well for that.
How much do you dose lysine?I have always gotten canker sores when run down, stressed, or if I bit my lip or inside of my cheek while eating. Like clockwork, I get stressed before dental appointments and almost every time I would end up with a canker. During a cleaning a few years ago, the hygienist noted that I had one (thanks captain obvious) and recommended that I read up on and give lysine a try. The dentist then came in to do my check up and she noted that she recommended lysine and he agreed.
I still got covid while taking lysine but honestly that and a cold are the only illnesses I've had since I started taking it. I buy nutricost brand lysine off amazon. I take two per day with my morning shake. I think that is like 1000mg's daily. Costs me about $30 for a years supply.
No it's not. I've given it to my dog for heartworm many times, at a dose much, much lower per kg than the dose the anti-viral claims are advocating and it's always been claimed that a side effect for the dog may be seizures. If you're a human and have tapeworm, it's indicated. Otherwise stick to something medically proven. You think Merck wouldn't love for their ivermectin drug to be the cure for covid? But they say don't take it.
wonderful that you are feeling better, this too shall pass-gas, lol.Nice to see my thread is so lively
Update: I'm getting better now. Have a bit more energy and can move about more. The biggest issue is trapped gas. Although I'm taking a prescription stool softener, it's still hard to pass gas properly and trapped gas as you know feels like blades cutting through your gut especially when you go to the bathroom. I'm drinking ginger tea to help alleviate this and also using Helios for anti-inflammatory purposes. Seems to be helping.
You know, I'll say one thing, I think the main reason for all my maladies is extreme stress. I work in a soul-crushing job with long hours of work and constant tension and stress and I think it completely crashed my immune system thereby causing me to get Covid and all the other complications I've endured. I'm telling you guys, it's not worth ruining your health doing a job that makes unhappy, miserable, and emotional/physically/mentally taxes you to your limits.
I don't know why you have to act like this is such a versatile drug and it wasn't developed, manufactured and isn't sold for the sole purpose of killing worms and mites, and mostly used in animals. Might there be other purposes found down the line? Sure. Rosacea for instance. But unless you know something the experts at the FDA, CDC, WHO, European Medicines Agency and Merck doesn't know about covid, then you're just a loon conspiracy theorist trying to put down those who take the mainstream view.
My advice is to go get a medical degree and try to get a job with one of those organizations... make them understand how you're so smart and they're so dumb, or corrupted and want people to die for money. Odds are you'll stop reading the fringe websites and change your view in the process.
Yes, there are places in this world where roundworm is a real problem in humans. And that's why it's inventor got the Nobel Prize. Not for some off label use like you're suggesting. And far more animals take it than human. The label is valid.
I don't know why you have to act like this is such a versatile drug and it wasn't developed, manufactured and isn't sold for the sole purpose of killing worms and mites, and mostly used in animals. Might there be other purposes found down the line? Sure. Rosacea for instance. But unless you know something the experts at the FDA, CDC, WHO, European Medicines Agency and Merck doesn't know about covid, then you're just a loon conspiracy theorist trying to put down those who take the mainstream view.
My advice is to go get a medical degree and try to get a job with one of those organizations... make them understand how you're so smart and they're so dumb, or corrupted and want people to die for money. Odds are you'll stop reading the fringe websites and change your view in the process.
Merry Christmas!Merry Christmas from NYC!
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Yes, there are places in this world where roundworm is a real problem in humans. And that's why it's inventor got the Nobel Prize. Not for some off label use like you're suggesting. And far more animals take it than human. The label is valid.
in the words of jon bon jovi--'one more time, and this time with emotion'.Youre a fkin’ idiot and a troll. You literally don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Scum like you are the reason for society’s problems today. GTFO of here.
Yeah, the good old people at Merck really want to kill people for more money. You really think that? If so, please sue them and convince a jury.
I don't know why it gets you so upset. You can look it up on the Nobel Prize website. It was given for deworming people in areas of the world with a roundworm problem in humans. And at a dose much, much lower than people are taking to do nothing against covid.
I suppose you would've done better than the people at the FDA, CDC, WHO, and European Medicines Agency who all say Ivermectin shouldn't be taken for anything but worms and rosacea.
Also, maybe all these things we discuss do not cure covid, but if they eliminate the possibility of death or hospitalization, that's great as well. At that point, it's no different then the flu or a nasty cold.Thanosnap-
you can argue all day long that it may not cure Covid- but to say it is unsafe and doesn’t help people just shows you are either:
1- ignorant
2- brain washed
3- a troll
4 - an asshole
So far you’ve proven to be #4……and it’s looking more and more like they all apply to you
of course the dose would be larger for treating covid than ringworm?I don't know why it gets you so upset. You can look it up on the Nobel Prize website. It was given for deworming people in areas of the world with a roundworm problem in humans. And at a dose much, much lower than people are taking to do nothing against covid.
Hey, thanks for breaking that down along political party lines. I never could have told you were a troll without it.Ha! You're acting like I'm the minority voice here. A lot of people (43% of the country) haven't even heard of Ivermectin but of those who have only 35% believe it is effective and 40% say it's not only ineffective but dangerous. So, go on believing there are people out there who want covid patients to die so the drug makers make more money and keep calling me the troll
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I suppose you would've done better than the people at the FDA, CDC, WHO, and European Medicines Agency who all say Ivermectin shouldn't be taken for anything but worms and rosacea.
Get yourself a medical degree then. The thing is, I can guarantee you that the Intensivists, Perfusionists, Pharmacists, Dietitians, Researchers, Critical Care Nurses and Respiratory Therapists I work with in the ICU know a whole hell of a lot more about this than you do.
And it's a pretty shitty thing to say we are letting people die out of ignorance or collusion with the drug companies. We deeply believe in what we're doing, but the virus has been unpredictable and it should be very obvious by now it doesn't matter who is in charge.
I've worked at two of the top ten ranked hospitals in the US. No one with any kind of medical background will say the scientific data overwhelmingly supports use of Ivermectin for Covid. But please join me in the ICU and tell people who've spent most of their adult lives studying medicine and saving lives how they're wrong and you're right.
@Young Gotti and this isn't just a US decision here. The Germans, Italians, and especially the French and have minds of their own and have come to the same conclusion.
Time will tell who is right but it is obvious different things need to be tried. The US medical system is not helping too many people. Most are probably trained to think like you and continue to try the same things and continue to have the same results.I've worked at two of the top ten ranked hospitals in the US. No one with any kind of medical background will say the scientific data overwhelmingly supports use of Ivermectin for Covid. But please join me in the ICU and tell people who've spent most of their adult lives studying medicine and saving lives how they're wrong and you're right.
Agree here. Standard US doctors aren't trained to think outside the box.Time will tell who is right but it is obvious different things need to be tried. The US medical system is not helping too many people. Most are probably trained to think like you and continue to try the same things and continue to have the same results.
That 40% stat alone should tell you what you need to know about the intelligence wrapped in the mainstream American view. History should show you that mainstream views have failed society many times, often with tragic consequence.65% believe it is ineffective and 40% dangerous. So it's not like I'm some extremist minority troll here. This is not only the mainstream medical view, but also the mainstream American view.
My wife felt weird/sick these past few days but feels normal today (she took ivermectin the last 2 days) Out of respect for some friends that invited us to a New Years Eve gathering tomorrow, we just went and had her tested for Covid. To my amazement, they gave her a deep swab PCR Covid test!! (PCR test are proven to be pure **** in terms of accuracy) They said they are running slow but we should have the results by tonight. I bet she tests positive! They quit giving us PCR tests before going offshore because of the high percentage of false positives. You can bet your ass that the good old trusty CDC wants to pump up Covid numbers so they can shut things down again!! Things that a blind man could see!!!
@Young Gotti
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Ha! You're acting like I'm the minority voice here. A lot of people (43% of the country) haven't even heard of Ivermectin but of those who have only 35% believe it is effective and 40% say it's not only ineffective but dangerous. So, go on believing there are people out there who want covid patients to die so the drug makers make more money and keep calling me the troll
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That's not even what we're talking about. You're talking about a minority of doctors in the ER. That's a fraction of who's seeing covid patients with a fraction of the stress who can prescribe ivermectin so those people don't get that far.Well I'd love to see you run and intensive care unit. You're gonna have to put an emergent chest tube in over here because of a pneumothorax. You'll have to do a bronchoscopy over there because their lungs are plugging up. You'll read all their chest xrays and arterial blood gasses. Why's this person have hyperkalemia? Is his kidneys failing? Which antibiotics to use on this person? How much fentanylor propofol? How about ketamine or Precedex? This person's hands and feet are turning black because of the vasopressors. This person is crashing. What should the new ventilator settings be? I'd love to see your out of the box thinking.
Why are you even in this thread? Have you posted anything constructive or helpful?All over the world??? China has very different views of medicine so of course they'd use it, right? Nope. How about Russia? Surely Putin isn't in league with Merck. They're not using it there either. Europe? Nope.
Many countries, including the US, are using it in experiments. And what they're finding is that the positive studies are poorly done at best or show signs of fraud at worst. The numbers aren't adding up and columns are being copied and pasted. The largest and best study was done out of McMaster University in Canada. Can you guess what the result was?
How are you doing? All recovered now?Was feeling run down for the past two weeks and last two days I had a debilitating headache, body ache, sore throat, congestion, etc. Got a rapid test done and confirmed positive for Covid. So I have to quarantine home for 10 days. Supplements I will be taking!
-Optimum Nutrition multivitamin
-Chlorella tablets
-Quercetin, Hesperidin, Na-R-Ala, and Green tea capsules.
-Ginger tea mixed with raw honey and ground thyme.
-Drinking warm water mixed with a touch of raw apple cider vinegar
-Coffee with creatine, raw cacao powder and maca
-Mk-677 (15mg) for a good night's sleep.
Wish me luck!![]()
So what are you? A janitor? You think our gov’t doesn’t do shitty things? Are you that stupid? Nobody said they want people to die- were saying they don’t want any other medicines used except those being put out by big pharma! For fucks sake you are the dumbest person I’ve ever seen in any forum. You believe nothing except what your govt overlords tell you! That says it all…..why don’t you do some reading about the fucked up things our govt has done over the years….start with recent declassified documents and maybe your eyes will open to how messed up our gov’t isGet yourself a medical degree then. The thing is, I can guarantee you that the Intensivists, Perfusionists, Pharmacists, Dietitians, Researchers, Critical Care Nurses and Respiratory Therapists I work with in the ICU know a whole hell of a lot more about this than you do.
And it's a pretty shitty thing to say we are letting people die out of ignorance or collusion with the drug companies. We deeply believe in what we're doing, but the virus has been unpredictable and it should be very obvious by now it doesn't matter who is in charge.
Except it worked for me, and plenty of others.The point is the best doctors out there, not just in the US but in Europe, China, Russia etc, won't prescribe it and will tell you it's not a good idea to use on your own. And it's not because they're ignorant, or bought out, or mindless zombies of the FDA, CDC, WHO, or European Medication Agency... it's because that's really what the science says right now. Why anybody would refuse a vaccine that's been given to hundreds of millions of people and then go de-worm themselves is a very strange phenomenon we will all look back on and laugh about later.
The point is the best doctors out there, not just in the US but in Europe, China, Russia etc, won't prescribe it and will tell you it's not a good idea to use on your own. And it's not because they're ignorant, or bought out, or mindless zombies of the FDA, CDC, WHO, or European Medication Agency... it's because that's really what the science says right now. Why anybody would refuse a vaccine that's been given to hundreds of millions of people and then go de-worm themselves is a very strange phenomenon we will all look back on and laugh about later.
Well, this is exactly what it says on the human grade box:
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How many have seriously studied the scientific reliability of CPR tests? Seriously?My wife felt weird/sick these past few days but feels normal today (she took ivermectin the last 2 days) Out of respect for some friends that invited us to a New Years Eve gathering tomorrow, we just went and had her tested for Covid. To my amazement, they gave her a deep swab PCR Covid test!! (PCR test are proven to be pure **** in terms of accuracy) They said they are running slow but we should have the results by tonight. I bet she tests positive! They quit giving us PCR tests before going offshore because of the high percentage of false positives. You can bet your ass that the good old trusty CDC wants to pump up Covid numbers so they can shut things down again!! Things that a blind man could see!!!
hahaha you need to do better than this nonsense
my aspirin bottle says to take for minor aches and pains….guess it doesnt thin your blood at all, using your logic of course
You better inform the medical community they shouldn’t repurpose drugs for cancer then
can’t use fluvoxamine either
it's same argument for wanting to make NAC a controlled drug. I think he's just a troll. lol @ pretending to be an icu doctor
haha luckily I grabbed several bottles before prices got jacked on the nac
I don’t know what he is but he isn’t in the medical community with those arguments