Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2021 Edition)
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jh1
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Increased muscle fullness throughout the day. Slight leaning out while around maintenance calories. Weights are moving noticeably easier. Finally hit the 130s for dumbbell incline bench, which is a first for me. Anytime I can get leaner and stronger while body weight remains unchanged is a big win for me.
jh1
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Purchased 3 bottled originally for a 12 week run, but I'm tempted to stretch it to 16. Haven't decided yet
TheMrMuscle
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sns8778
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Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words.
I'm glad that you're enjoying Anacyclus XT and I think you'll love Joint Support XT. The feedback is great on it.
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing. When you have a moment, would you mind putting some of your results and feedback in the Anacyclus XT thread? I think it would help others know what to expect and help some that are waiting on feedback decide to give it a try.
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nickodemus
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@sns8778
So with all the new products, what new one would you pair with Mtest and Anabolic Effect for lean mass gain. Libido is fine, so that doesn't matter to me. All day fullness for muscles would be great. Every new product offers improved test. I am just looking for your opinion. I know about trying the new solo product first. Thanks.
So with all the new products, what new one would you pair with Mtest and Anabolic Effect for lean mass gain. Libido is fine, so that doesn't matter to me. All day fullness for muscles would be great. Every new product offers improved test. I am just looking for your opinion. I know about trying the new solo product first. Thanks.
sns8778
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I personally really like the stack of M-Test, Anabolic Effect, and Epi-Plex for lean muscle gains.
We make so many products that there are so many options to add to that, but some that stand out to me are VasoForce XT, X-Gels, Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Anacyclus XT, Amentoflavone XT, and there are many more.
As for every new product offering improved test, a lot of them do but not all of them. Our most recent new release is Amentoflavone XT and it doesn't work off of improved test levels and a lot of people are loving it.
For all day Muscle Fullness, VasoForce XT is hard to beat. And it can be stacked with the new Amentoflavone XT if you'd like.
Great upcoming options for lean muscle gains will be:
- the Daily Use Ergogenic
- Phosphatidic Acid XT
- Anabolic XT
- Optimize-T
- 3 new natural anabolics due out under CEL by the end of the year
And many more. Our goal is to offer the best possible range of natural anabolic options available.
nickodemus
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I was looking more towards the newer products you have released this year to stack with it. That being said, DPS is out of stock on Epi-Plex. I enjoy the feeling of Mtest and Anabolic Effect, but lets be honest, who doesn't want more if they can get it.
sns8778
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Epi-Plex is in transit to them so they should have it back in stock by Tuesday/Wednesday.
Out of the recently released ones, I would say Anacyclus XT &/or Amentoflavone XT.
But for what you said about all day muscle fullness, for me that absolutely describes VasoForce XT.
For upcoming ones, the ones that stand out right off hand are:
- the Daily Use Ergogenic
- Phosphatidic Acid XT
- Anabolic XT
- Optimize-T
- Recomp 20
- 4 new natural anabolics due out under CEL by the end of the year (I said 3 earlier; I forgot 1)
wesb2387
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I’m about to start a 3 month BMP/myosynergy run and was thinking of adding in maybe one more product to the stack. Any reason I shouldn’t add some mtest or maybe anacyclus to the stack? Maybe both? I feel like either products would complement pretty well.
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GQdaLEGEND
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for whats out right now .. i think you will enjoy Anacylus + Amento + Vaso stack
will give you that feeling what your looking for imo
nickodemus
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Thanks guys
Beau
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Do I detect a naming opportunity?
chainsaw
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I am waiting to pull trigger on more Mtest before I see profile of optimize t. Really at 40 in need of running more testosterone support supplements. I also want to run phosphatidic xt, new anabolic alongside of it. So many options it's hard to try each product for 8 weeks solo to see how it works, have to trust something just work no matter what. For instance xgels work for me get really good strength gains from it, i would like to take it alongside PA and the new anabolic, but I won't know if the new anabolic is working.... if money wasn't an issue I would take all of it all the time.
AndroRage
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Been a couple months since I asked. How’s Optimize-T coming? Has profile been released yet?
BillD
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What are you noticing from daily vaso6 use?
TheMrMuscle
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It has not, but Steve did mention it on Sunday in this post
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slimsaw00
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Well I feel pumped on my workout days, and slightly more pumped on my off days. I’m counting it as a daily health supplement at this point.
GQdaLEGEND
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Along with delays from manufacturing ingredients
People do understand steve is working non stop with no sleep to get us these sups .. and making sure they are tested and highest quality
People do understand steve is working non stop with no sleep to get us these sups .. and making sure they are tested and highest quality
ZOO
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He defies human limitations. Dat Focus XT lol
sns8778
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VASO6 has a lot of great potential benefits with daily use - improved circulation, blood flow, blood pressure support, erection quality, and more.
sns8778
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M-Test and Anacyclus XT would make a great stack with those imo.
sns8778
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Optimize-T I think should be within a month unless we have to bump it back to keep existing products in stock.
It should stack very well with M-Test or be great for people that are looking for something different or that don't like some ingredients in M-Test.
Phosphatidic Acid XT should hopefully be out within the next 6 weeks or so. One of the delays with this was that they were out of one of their own ingredient for a couple of weeks, so nothing we can do about that. Anabolic XT is the definite priority above this one, but it shouldn't be out long after.
I'm the same way - there are so many things I like that I don't want to just run one thing for 6 or 8 weeks. I want the best results I can and don't want to hold myself back by just implementing one new thing at a time haha.
For Anabolic XT, there will be some things from it that you'll notice even if taking it with X-Gels and Phosphatidic Acid XT
sns8778
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It should be out within the next month. I haven't released the profile yet. I thought about doing a discussion type thread about it and do an ingredient reveal every few days or something, but its hard to discuss something when you don't want to reveal all the ingredients yet
sns8778
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Thank you. I really appreciate that. I love daily use VASO6 as well.
Optimize-T will be a great product.
The daily use ergogenic will be great as well. It's just taking forever to get everything right on a taste end of things and the flavored powder side of the industry is so delayed right now.
slimsaw00
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As I get closer to 40, I need to be smart about my preworkout/stimulant/caffeine use. As a result I’ve become more interested in health/hormone optimization. Looking forward to Optimize-T quite a bit!
Thanks!
ToxAF
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It should be out within the next month. I haven't released the profile yet. I thought about doing a discussion type thread about it and do an ingredient reveal every few days or something, but its hard to discuss something when you don't want to reveal all the ingredients yet
Really looking forward to Optimize-T, if its not too big of a reveal, will we see any overlap in the recently released single ingredient formulas like Furosap XT, Pine Pollen and Spilanthes?
ToxAF
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With you there, my sweet spot is with Alpha Y (SNS standalone nailed dosing imo) and caffeine, anything more makes me feel like shite.
slimsaw00
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I have been using PreKaged for a bit. Thinking of just switching to coffee. I work out first thing in the morning so that would probably work just as well. Not sure if I wanna keep using a Pre when I’m 40+.
ToxAF
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Im 45, personally just stims before noon. Havent used preworkouts in years, just make me sick half the time. If discipline and desire cant carry me through a workout I probably need a day off anyways.
sns8778
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I'm not big on stims myself. My daily stim consumption is normally 1 scoop of Focus XT and 1 scoop of Energized Aminos. And then I'll take an Eria Jarensis or Dynamine capsule with it if I really need a boost.
sns8778
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I'm glad that you like our Alpha Yohimbine. I do as well. A lot of people that say they don't like Alpha Yohimbine haven't ever actually tried real Alpha Yohimbine.
sns8778
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I'm not going to say too much quite yet. I'll try to start a thread by the beginning of next week, but I have some personal things going on right now that I'm dealing with the last couple days and can't monitor a thread properly to put one up about it right now.
But a quick answer - there may be overlap on a thing or two, but not at a dosage that would prohibit one from being able to take them. I hope that makes sense.
Hyde
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Tried your Eria Jarensis product this morning, one cap with the rest of my stack - it was absolutely perfect
The strength of one cap in combination with the other stimulants was just spot on.I initially thought I didn’t like EJ products, but the truth was these companies were just dosing it too high for my tastes. 150mg was the perfect turbocharging for early morning leg training. Great mood/drive & extra energy without jacking up my heart rate or any other sides like jitters.
booneman77
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Tried your Eria Jarensis product this morning, one cap with the rest of my stack - it was absolutely perfectThe strength of one cap in combination with the other stimulants was just spot on.
I initially thought I didn’t like EJ products, but the truth was these companies were just dosing it too high for my tastes. 150mg was the perfect turbocharging for early morning leg training. Great mood/drive & extra energy without jacking up my heart rate or any other sides like jitters.
I think this is the case (at least for me lately) with a lot of the pre’s/stims out there… it’s either dosage or quality that makes them great or awful. The last year or so ive been dialing things in much better and all these single ingredient products we’ve been making have really helped with that (not to mention that the quality is never a question from SNS).
Makes a world of difference when you’re looking for true impact vs just pure Coke’d out energy and shakes
sns8778
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Tried your Eria Jarensis product this morning, one cap with the rest of my stack - it was absolutely perfect
I initially thought I didn’t like EJ products, but the truth was these companies were just dosing it too high for my tastes. 150mg was the perfect turbocharging for early morning leg training. Great mood/drive & extra energy without jacking up my heart rate or any other sides like jitters.
Awesome. Thank you for sharing. I'm really glad that you like it.
I love it myself and for me it does exactly like you said - great mood and motivation and extra energy without ramping up heart rate or jitters.
If you don't mind, would you mind posting your thoughts on it like the above post in this thread?
Not many people have posted feedback in here and I think it may help others.
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sns8778
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Unfortunately, not really. We have everything done on our end, we are just waiting on finished product production. Production times in this industry suck right now for flavored powders. We are also working on getting new flavor samples from a different contract manufacturer that has better lead times, but everything with flavored powders right now is just a pain. That's why I don't like giving even guesstimate ETA's right now because there are just so many parts of it out of our control.
I will definitely say that I'm looking forward to it more than anyone because I'm the one that has a lot of money tied up in it haha.
TheMrMuscle
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This is really something im looking forward too!
sns8778
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MCC - yes.
Agmatine - yes.
Epicatechin - no, it raises the cost a lot and people that want to use Epicatechin should use Epi-Plex.
Tingle free Beta Alanine - no, for two reasons - 1) still gives tingles in some people, including me. 2) we offer a 501 capsule size of Beta Alanine that makes it really inexpensive and convenient for people that want to use it daily.
Cordyceps - no. If we were to use a mushroom, it would be PEAK02 but it adds to cost and affects the flavor profile. Plus, with products like this, you make them as loaded as you can but it has to stop somewhere due to cost and other factors. We offer PEAK02 caps that sell great and the feedback on them is great. I know some people here on AM talk about Cordyceps but I'm not exaggerating when I say that we have never once ever had a request for cordyceps anywhere except from a few people here. We may do one at some point, but I know for me, PEAK02 works a lot better.
There are a LOT more ingredients in it than just the ones listed above. I just wanted to address the ones you mentioned
uncle-rico
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May I ask what's the rough estimate on the release date for the libido product?
Hyde
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MCC - yes.
Agmatine - yes.
Epicatechin - no, it raises the cost a lot and people that want to use Epicatechin should use Epi-Plex.
Tingle free Beta Alanine - no, for two reasons - 1) still gives tingles in some people, including me. 2) we offer a 501 capsule size of Beta Alanine that makes it really inexpensive and convenient for people that want to use it daily.
Cordyceps - no. If we were to use a mushroom, it would be PEAK02 but it adds to cost and affects the flavor profile. Plus, with products like this, you make them as loaded as you can but it has to stop somewhere due to cost and other factors. We offer PEAK02 caps that sell great and the feedback on them is great. I know some people here on AM talk about Cordyceps but I'm not exaggerating when I say that we have never once ever had a request for cordyceps anywhere except from a few people here. We may do one at some point, but I know for me, PEAK02 works a lot better.
There are a LOT more ingredients in it than just the ones listed above. I just wanted to address the ones you mentioned
Okay, so we know MCC & Agmatine will be in the daily ergogen blend. Any others that have been leaked already, or you’d like to confirm?
I’m guessing Cit Mal as well
ELROCK
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MCC - yes.
Agmatine - yes.
Epicatechin - no, it raises the cost a lot and people that want to use Epicatechin should use Epi-Plex.
Tingle free Beta Alanine - no, for two reasons - 1) still gives tingles in some people, including me. 2) we offer a 501 capsule size of Beta Alanine that makes it really inexpensive and convenient for people that want to use it daily.
Cordyceps - no. If we were to use a mushroom, it would be PEAK02 but it adds to cost and affects the flavor profile. Plus, with products like this, you make them as loaded as you can but it has to stop somewhere due to cost and other factors. We offer PEAK02 caps that sell great and the feedback on them is great. I know some people here on AM talk about Cordyceps but I'm not exaggerating when I say that we have never once ever had a request for cordyceps anywhere except from a few people here. We may do one at some point, but I know for me, PEAK02 works a lot better.
There are a LOT more ingredients in it than just the ones listed above. I just wanted to address the ones you mentioned
Damn, was really hoping epicatechin was in there! I do like the two additions you mentioned though!
Two other ingredients I would like to see in it would be Amentoflavone and Taurine?
sns8778
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I'm sorry but there's no way Epicatechin at the proper dose of 600 mg. per day is viable in a product like that. I see some companies use 300 mg. just to say its in there, but I think people would be much better off if they want to take Epicatechin to take Epi-Plex and use the daily dose they desire - which for me is 600 mg. per day, but for some may be 300 mg. per day.
No to Amentoflavone. I think its a great ingredient but people that want to use that can always use Amentoflavone XT. The thing to remember when doing a daily use ergogenic is focus on providing the ingredients that most everyone will want to use daily; and that after a certain point, the additions have to stop somewhere because if not, it would just be too expensive.
Yes to Taurine.
sns8778
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Okay, so we know MCC & Agmatine will be in the daily ergogen blend. Any others that have been leaked already, or you’d like to confirm?
I’m guessing Cit Mal as well
This will probably be the last one that I'll confirm haha - but yes to Citrulline Malate
sns8778
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Optimize-T will be great for libido and we're looking at just a couple of weeks until that release.
As for Libido Boost XT, no tentative ETA yet. There are just too many other projects in front of it to give a realistic ETA right now. Right now, I'm waiting on a quote for the tentative formula and then can go from there.
chainsaw
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Awesome I have been wanting to try MCC and agmatine is a staple for me and I will ne out soonMCC - yes.
Agmatine - yes.
Epicatechin - no, it raises the cost a lot and people that want to use Epicatechin should use Epi-Plex.
Tingle free Beta Alanine - no, for two reasons - 1) still gives tingles in some people, including me. 2) we offer a 501 capsule size of Beta Alanine that makes it really inexpensive and convenient for people that want to use it daily.
Cordyceps - no. If we were to use a mushroom, it would be PEAK02 but it adds to cost and affects the flavor profile. Plus, with products like this, you make them as loaded as you can but it has to stop somewhere due to cost and other factors. We offer PEAK02 caps that sell great and the feedback on them is great. I know some people here on AM talk about Cordyceps but I'm not exaggerating when I say that we have never once ever had a request for cordyceps anywhere except from a few people here. We may do one at some point, but I know for me, PEAK02 works a lot better.
There are a LOT more ingredients in it than just the ones listed above. I just wanted to address the ones you mentioned