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Synthetic Supplements Agmatine - 10 Bottles for you guys

To the guys that received the wrong product. You can always try to do a trade in the "Sellers" section. I really dont think PES/SS did this intentionally. These were free.....and IMO even if I got the wrong one Id still be happy they sent me anything FREE at all. Its not like they owe me anything....I am not entitled to receive anything for free. NP is also running a sale on both these items very cheap right now for Memorial Day. Instead of posting up on the forum here about the wrong item, I may have just PM'd them to see if they would be able to help you out. If not, look at it this way, you didnt lose anything....give whatever product you did get a shot, you may be surprised. Everything happens for a reason.....Good luck guys! And thank you again PES/SS for being so selfless to your fans/customers, this is something that we will all remember!!
 
No matter what you do, there will always be complainers.

Atleast you got sent product. Do you know how many companies promised me product that never came? Not even the wrong one?
 
Free is free. They're not even samples, they are entire bottles!. That is overly generous a not a lot of companies would do that. Plus they first said only 10 bottles/10 people would be picked. Then they changed their mind and said EVERYBODY that applied gets a bottle. Plus they did the exact same thing with their Methyl-Synephrine product. Who else does that? Who?
 
T-Bone said:
Free is free. They're not even samples, they are entire bottles!. That is overly generous a not a lot of companies would do that. Plus they first said only 10 bottles/10 people would be picked. Then they changed their mind and said EVERYBODY that applied gets a bottle. Plus they did the exact same thing with their Methyl-Synephrine product. Who else does that? Who?
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Every company on this Forum is generous.
USP & PES has been overly generous as far as all the free product they have been sending out to us; This has not happened once or twice even but multiple times! Natty has sent me a few products. USP has hooked me up (& is hooking me up) as well.
 
Got mine today, including it in my current cycle as promised. Join in here if you like (unsponsonsored)

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Thanks again Natty, BPJohn and BDCC and all the other top shelf PES crew!
 
AaronJP1 said:
Every company on this Forum is generous.
USP & PES has been overly generous as far as all the free product they have been sending out to us; This has not happened once or twice even but multiple times! Natty has sent me a few products. USP has hooked me up (& is hooking me up) as well.
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Full bottles of product are not often given away without some form of payment. That payment might be a strict requirement to log the product. By strict I mean there are a lot of requirements for the applicants. PES is giving this stuff away free and clear. Yeah Usp Labs has been pretty generous also lately.
 
Lets not forget how generous AI Sports has been also........there are a lot of companies stepping up to get there products out to the consumer. This market is very competitive and the supps that work for me come from the companies that arent afraid to let me try them and see how they work with my body. Not all products work the same for everyone and it can get VERY expensive when finding what works. Some work for me....and a lot dont!! That doesnt mean they wont work for you......
 
mnowak1228 said:
Lets not forget how generous AI Sports has been also........there are a lot of companies stepping up to get there products out to the consumer. This market is very competitive and the supps that work for me come from the companies that arent afraid to let me try them and see how they work with my body. Not all products work the same for everyone and it can get VERY expensive when finding what works. Some work for me....and a lot dont!! That doesnt mean they wont work for you......
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True AI is great as well.
 
All those comments were clearly aimed at me. You guys are funny. I found someone who got agmatine on accident and we're going to switch.

Me asking to swap out had nothing to do with being ungrateful ya bunch of drama queens : ) I am extremely grateful for the free products and am a huge supporter of PES/SS which you can see by any of my posts regarding the company! I also have already purchased a few bottles of agmatine from SS :) I just didn't want this bottle to go to waste as again i'm not in need of a fat loss product. I'm on a year round lean bulk.

Thanks again to Natty and the crew!!
 
thumbs up on the agmatine, I've been using it the last two workouts @ 2 caps 30min. prior and vascularity is huge and pumps solid. Will be buying for sure. Thx again PES/SS!
 
tilldeath said:
thumbs up on the agmatine, I've been using it the last two workouts @ 2 caps 30min. prior and vascularity is huge and pumps solid. Will be buying for sure. Thx again PES/SS!
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Thanks for the feedback.
 
Taking one cap preworkout right now for the first training session w/ it today.. LOVED the pump, was really nice.. May eventually bump up to 2 caps pre, but gonna ride out this gnarly pump off one for a whle first..
thumbs up though as well, will more than likely buy another bottle in the future.. plus i was looking it up and it is CHEAP. 15.99 on nutra?! is this because of the new company, or memorial day sale, or what??
IF this stays this price and nutra does another ABE/ PE deal.. well they may get a chunk of my paycheck.
 
aceroni said:
Taking one cap preworkout right now for the first training session w/ it today.. LOVED the pump, was really nice.. May eventually bump up to 2 caps pre, but gonna ride out this gnarly pump off one for a whle first..
thumbs up though as well, will more than likely buy another bottle in the future.. plus i was looking it up and it is CHEAP. 15.99 on nutra?! is this because of the new company, or memorial day sale, or what??
IF this stays this price and nutra does another ABE/ PE deal.. well they may get a chunk of my paycheck.
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Yeah it is PES sister company. Both companies have a solid line up. You're right $16 got agmatine us a steal.
 
hvactech said:
any problem with using this and 1,3?
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I'm not "Mr.Cooper" but I would say no as 1,3 can cause BP spikes where as Agmatine is a Vasodilator, so it would probably counteract that some. I myself found I cannot tolerate 1000mg because it, in combo with some of my meds, drops my BP to the point I get head rushes, love the pump though!
 
I still havent received mine :( maybe tomorrow in the mail!! :D (still have some though haha I bought quite a bit of it when it came out :p)
 
taman6886 said:
I'm not "Mr.Cooper" but I would say no as 1,3 can cause BP spikes where as Agmatine is a Vasodilator, so it would probably counteract that some. I myself found I cannot tolerate 1000mg because it, in combo with some of my meds, drops my BP to the point I get head rushes, love the pump though!
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oh crap..i thought this was the MS thread, oops
 
I was reading that agmatine has a glucose disposal effect.. Are you guys taking it w/ food or w/out..?
but yeah a note on the vasodilation/ lightheadedness.. I was doing 45 degree hyperextensions today, and found myself slightly dizzy after my second set.
 
aceroni said:
I was reading that agmatine has a glucose disposal effect.. Are you guys taking it w/ food or w/out..?
but yeah a note on the vasodilation/ lightheadedness.. I was doing 45 degree hyperextensions today, and found myself slightly dizzy after my second set.
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You can take it with or without. Agmatine will lower blood pressure so rapid changes in head elevation (see baroreceptor reflex) can cause a little lightheadedness if your dose is too high. Suggestions: lower the dose, or take some caffeine with it.
 
aceroni said:
I was reading that agmatine has a glucose disposal effect.. Are you guys taking it w/ food or w/out..?
but yeah a note on the vasodilation/ lightheadedness.. I was doing 45 degree hyperextensions today, and found myself slightly dizzy after my second set.
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It happens with some users. After Coop had advised in a thread I tried a full gram on an empty stomach with no problems. I also took it on very low Carb days roughly 60g with no problems. I remember reading in one of these threads though that someone got really hypo in a grocery store and was really dizzy. Again, to my knowledge it very will can be just depends on the user.

Try taking it with some Carbs/more Carbs than you did this time and see if it happens again. How are you liking it? I love agmatine
 
mr.cooper69 said:
You can take it with or without. Agmatine will lower blood pressure so rapid changes in head elevation (see baroreceptor reflex) can cause a little lightheadedness if your dose is too high. Suggestions: lower the dose, or take some caffeine with it.
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A hole beat me to it! Lol! Coop you get my pm?
 
I'm just doing 500mgs pre workout and pumps are great.. Going to be starting anabeta elite and erase pro in about another week, so i'll see how i feel then, and if i want to bump up the agmatine to 1g preworkout then i will do so.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I actually double-checked and I'm not seeing one. Re-send if possible, thanks :)
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Hey coop , still when bulking and IFing its still better to take it post workout and before a meal right? Or is it the same if I just take good old EC and Agmatine pre-workout fasted for morning training? oO
 
Celorza said:
Hey coop , still when bulking and IFing its still better to take it post workout and before a meal right? Or is it the same if I just take good old EC and Agmatine pre-workout fasted for morning training? oO
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I prefer agmatine postworkout. Pre-workout dosing is a favorite of many and will indubitably increase vasodilation via imidazoline signaling, but "the pumps" aren't my particular reason for using agmatine.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I prefer agmatine postworkout. Pre-workout dosing is a favorite of many and will indubitably increase vasodilation via imidazoline signaling, but "the pumps" aren't my particular reason for using agmatine.
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I find it better post workout too...the CNS signaling it gives as a nutrient partitioner makes me feel better...besdies I still get pumps after taking it with na-r-ala and after a meal :/ muscles feel fuller...What would you say to someone taking 2g of agmatine a day? Overdose? like 2 scoops hemavol preoworkout and then 1g of agmatine with na-r-ala for nutrient partitioner effects oO?
 
Wrong section my bad
 
Celorza said:
I find it better post workout too...the CNS signaling it gives as a nutrient partitioner makes me feel better...besdies I still get pumps after taking it with na-r-ala and after a meal :/ muscles feel fuller...What would you say to someone taking 2g of agmatine a day? Overdose? like 2 scoops hemavol preoworkout and then 1g of agmatine with na-r-ala for nutrient partitioner effects oO?
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No negative effects but it's wasteful at someone who is your BW. Gain 30 lbs, then we'll talk :D
 
mr.cooper69 said:
No negative effects but it's wasteful at someone who is your BW. Gain 30 lbs, then we'll talk :D
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Lol...
 
Celorza said:
That hurt coop...a lot actually
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You can show mr.coop gaining 30lbs is piece of cake for you...;)
 
Celorza said:
Cy bashed me...morale is crushed...
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Take some erase. Lower estrogen and erase those female emotions. Dose 3 caps daily ;)
 
theniteman said:
Take some erase. Lower estrogen and erase those female emotions. Dose 3 caps daily ;)
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BOOM! The end! ERASE THAT SHIZ! Erase healing sad faces and broken hearts since...
 
mr.cooper69 said:
If bodyweight-based dosing protocols are bashing then I better apologize to the rats that made agmatine studies possible, because I've been railing on them for months :D.
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I feel like the rats had it worse than me then haha...
 
hvactech said:
this is why splinter trained a bunch of turtles, to feel better about himself
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So what you're saying is Coop actually helped in creating the Ninja Turtles?!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
No negative effects but it's wasteful at someone who is your BW. Gain 30 lbs, then we'll talk :D
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I'm curious too. Ive been taking 1g for about 3-4 days so far. Not always before a work out. I'm 193, should my dose be higher than 1g. Haven't noticed a huge difference.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
You can go up to 1.5g-2g if you wish.
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Ah shyt, more money.
 
T-Bone said:
I have not received mine yet either.
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I was wondering why I had a couple extra bottles. :D
 
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