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Always thought provoking show. excited to see where bulbine goes from here
 
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Cliff notes, no time to listen.
 
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Companies are coming out saying they found Bulbine first...

Anthony Roberts is on there saying Ruthless Supplements came out with it first he says Ruthless Supplements Phytoserm 347 is the only bulbine product that contains the prolensis bulbine which was the actual one used to show the increases in testosterone production in the studies.

Phytoserm will be available at Nutraplanet soon!!!!
 
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Companies are coming out saying they found Bulbine first...

Anthony Roberts is on there saying Ruthless Supplements came out with it first he says Ruthless Supplements Phytoserm 347 is the only bulbine product that contains the prolensis bulbine which was the actual one used to show the increases in testosterone production in the studies.

Phytoserm will be available at Nutraplanet soon!!!!
I just won a bottle :). It will be in my next PCT as well. :bigok:
 
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EDIT: Didnt realize this was NTBMs forum!
 
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EDIT: Didnt realize this was NTBMs forum!
 

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If ya got something to say just say it guys. I am not a cry baby about **** getting said in my forum like other places are. Long as you are not overrunning my forum with spam of some kind I dont give a crap what ya say.

I respect your thoughts and what you have to say and would never go running to cry about it. UNless you are out right attacking me and acting like a child or spamming the **** out of my forum just say what ever you like. I like to think we are all on the same side kind of.

Its the damn fda and other agencies that we should all be against here. Not each other.
 

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X2 ..Dont have time to download and listen:p
Cliff's just for you fellas...

1. Russian Star is VERY handsome
...Oh wait, he wasn't even in this interview, where did that come from? ;)
2. NTBM was in fact, the very first company to bring this to market
3. NTBM uses ONLY the verified constituent that exhibits the T modulating properties
4. Anthony Roberts isn't his real name! GASP! 2003 called back, and they want their revelatory moment on the Internet back.
5. More Testosterone = Better

Now... if I may, I'd like to suggest anyone who has not tuned into the NTBM SHR Program where Russian Star explains the science behind Need 2 Slin, this is the one and only program I'd sincerely you suggest you stream.
 
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This was my post I made on another forum in regards to bulbine.

Well to start I dont believe this has been tested in humans. Iforce just launched a product that correctly uses (if I remember right) the HED of bulbine natalensis and their alpha/beta testers seem to show significantly increased levels of testosterone. I dont know anything about NTBM's bulbine product tbh.


PMID: 20645801

Not a very well known journal or cited often from my knowledge. The weird thing is that the higher dose used in the study did not result in an anabolic/androgenic effect. Whereas the smaller dose did. That makes me skeptical. I would have liked it more had it shown a positive dose/response curve.

PMID: 18710410

Another study where 25mg/kg and 50mg/kg were tested on rats. Definitely showed an increase in sexual activity as well as testosterone.

Here is a chart with a viagra comparison from the study:



And another showing test levels:



PMID: 19410284

Was reviewing the toxicology of bulbine...again showed some positives at 25 and 50mg/kg but not at 100mg/kg.


Overall I guess we just need to watch the logs to see how this impacts healthy human males. Check the logs bro. :)
 
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Bulbine Natalensis: FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)



First off the first company to ever put this in a product is Ruthless.inc over at Rlssupplements.com .So right from the Start if you ever see anyone or any company claiming they were the first. THen you know they are telling lies right out the gate and you should not trust them from there on out. It is perfectly fine if a company wants to sell a product using this herb. However if they must lie to you and say they are the first in order to impress you. Well then there product is not worth a damn. So if you ever see anyone other then Rlssupplements.com claiming to be the first. You should take the time to set them right. Ruthless.inc
is the only company in the world who has the right to claim they were the first because its a known and proven fact they were the first ever.

On top of that you may see other companies making other false claims as well. Claims like " well we use the exact right dose and blah blah blah, but not sure what Ruthless.inc uses. My friends first off if a company cant even do enough research to know that phytoserm-347 is a Ruthless.inc product and not a Needtobuildmuscle product then you should take anything they have to say with a gran of salt anyway. Get it right its Ruthless.inc!!! But more importantly is the fact that Ruthless.inc was the very first company contacted when it came down to picking who would be the company to get to launch this new bulbine. Ruthless.inc has worked hand in hand with the men and woman who have done all the ground work and all the studies for this herb. From The scientist who discovered it and did all of the testing, to Anthony Roberts and Carl Linore At super Human Radio who were the first to talk about it and start real human work on it.

In fact All of the first Human testers you see ( the first ones on record) Had been given there bulbine from ether Anthony Or from the Creator of prolensis ( Another person who we worked with first and from the very start).. Ruthless.inc has been right there from the very start of everything. We put out are on testers 4-6 months sooner then any other company even started talking about having the product. You can find these log threads under the title Needtogetaas Product-x testing. Or just product-x testing. Dating back several months Before talks of any other company having it.

If anyone has the correct dose its Ruthless.inc And that is the simple fact!!!!!!!!!!!


What is Bulbine Natalensis?




Bulbine Natalensis is an herb, indigenous to South Africa, which has recently been studied for its use as a libido enhancer, testosterone booster, and estrogen reducer. It has also been studied as an herbal remedy for erectile dysfunction.

Colloquially it is known as Ibhucu (Zulu), Rooiwortel (Afrikaans). It is an evergreen perennial (grows throughout the year), and features broad sharp pointed fleshy yellow-green leaves. It has clusters of star-shaped yellow flowers on long thin flowering stems, and is drought resistant, typically growing in Full Sun or semi shaded areas.

In traditional folk medicine, the leaves, roots, and sap are all used respectively for a variety of ailments: to treat bug stings, mosquito bites, blisters, cold sores, mouth ulcers, cracked skin, to soothe sunburn, disinfect cuts, and to speed the healing of bruises.

Is there any scientific research to support its use as a testosterone booster, and/or estrogen reducer?

Yes. A rodent study was performed by the Centre for Phytomedicine Research, Department of Botany, University of Fort Hare, Alice, South Africa. Rodents receiving Bulbine Natalensis had a serum testosterone level equal to 347% of the control group; in that same group, estrogen was 35% lower.

Has Bulbine Natalensis ever been used to raise testosterone and lower estrogen in humans?

Although this herb is new to the market, it has been successfully used to boost testosterone levels in humans, while lowering estrogen levels. While no clinical studies have been performed examining these effects in humans, its use has been validated in non-clinical settings.

Does Bulbine Natalensis improve libido?


In a rodent study conducted by Yakubu and Afolayan, test subjects receiving Bulbine Natalensis were found to have significantly elevated libidos, when compared to the control group.


How effective is Bulbine Natalensis on erectile dysfunction?


Although human trials have not yet been performed on Bulbine Natalensis, the initial rodent data suggests that it has the potential to outperform the leading erectile dysfunction drug.

Is Bulbine Natalensis available as a nutritional supplement?


Phytoserms-347 is the first nutritional supplement in the world to contain Bulbine Natalensis. It uses a chemically fingerprinted and standardized version of the herb, trademarked under the name Prolensis. This ensures that from batch to batch, the potency of the product doesn’t fluctuate, as is sometimes seen with various herbal products.


Are there any known fake or counterfeit Bulbine Natalensis products?


Unfortunately, the demand for this herb has increased faster than the production, which resulted in a situation where lower quality and potency Bulbine Natalensis has entered the supply chain. In some cases, it is suspected that similar-looking herbs from the same genus (i.e. Bulbine Fructescens, Bulbine Latifolia, etc...) are mistakenly being harvested and sold as Bulbine Natalensis. This is why Phytoserms-347 contains Prolensis, the first and only standardized Bulbine Natalensis in the world, harvested and imported directly from South Africa.

Is Bulbine Natalensis safe?

Although no human trials have taken place, it has been used extensively in South Africa for centuries, and no adverse effects have been reported from contemporary use in a nutritional supplement.

Who could benefit from using Bulbine Natalensis as a dietary supplement?

Athletes looking to enhance their hormonal profile, support a healthy endocrine system, or improve their recovery, can all benefit from the use of this herb in a dietary supplement. Additionally, those looking to improve their libido or experience prosexual effects, could potentially benefit from Bulbine Natalensis.

How should Bulbine Natalensis be stored?

Although there is no universally accepted protocol for the storage of this herb, it should likely be stored in a clean, dry place, below room temperature if possible. This insures that the Bulbine maintains potency of its sterols and sterolins.

How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?

The dose of Bulbine Natalensis found in each daily serving of Phytoserms-347 is equal to the amount shown to maximally elevate testosterone and lower estrogen.

Further research and reading –



Anabolic and androgenic activities of Bulbine natalensis stem in male Wistar rats. Yakubu MT, Afolayan AJ. Pharm Biol. 2010 May;48(5):56876.PMID: 20645801



Effect of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem extract on the functional indices and histology of the liver and kidney of male Wistar rats.

Afolayan AJ, Yakubu MT.J Med Food. 2009 Aug;12(4):814-20.PMID: 19735182 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



Reproductive toxicologic evaluations of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem extract in albino rats.

Yakubu MT, Afolayan AJ.Theriogenology. 2009 Aug;72(3):322-32. Epub 2009 May 1.PMID: 19410284 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



Effect of aqueous extract of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem on haematological and serum lipid profile of male Wistar rats.

Yakubu MT, Afolayan AJ.Indian J Exp Biol. 2009 Apr;47(4):283-8.PMID: 19382725 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related citations



Effect of aqueous extract of Bulbine natalensis (Baker) stem on the sexual behaviour of male rats.

Yakubu MT, Afolayan AJ.Int J Androl. 2009 Dec;32(6):629-36. Epub 2008 Aug 15.PMID: 18710410 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Where to buy this product
nutraplanet.com

You can read more about this herb here on my blog
Bulbine Natalensis, All herbs are not created equal Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog
 

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Cliff's just for you fellas...

1. Russian Star is VERY handsome
...Oh wait, he wasn't even in this interview, where did that come from? ;)
2. NTBM was in fact, the very first company to bring this to market
3. NTBM uses ONLY the verified constituent that exhibits the T modulating properties
4. Anthony Roberts isn't his real name! GASP! 2003 called back, and they want their revelatory moment on the Internet back.
5. More Testosterone = Better

Now... if I may, I'd like to suggest anyone who has not tuned into the NTBM SHR Program where Russian Star explains the science behind Need 2 Slin, this is the one and only program I'd sincerely you suggest you stream.
So are you saying his name is really Filbert Finklestein or something? Really, what's his name?
 

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So are you saying his name is really Filbert Finklestein or something? Really, what's his name?
Anthony Connors. He doesn't try to hide this by any means, it's on his Amazon page.
 
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