ok, i am speaking from experience, i have done both a cycle of m-drol, and i have cycled the "real" stuff. What most people are noticing on m-drol is water weight, this stuff makes you retain water like crazy, i am genetically gifted, i went from 243lbs to 255 in about 2 weeks, but i expect a loss of 4-5 pounds when i come off mdrol. not only that i train with very high intensity because i am a competitive bber, i continually ride that thin line between gains and injury, prior to using either compound i was an all natty bber, for about 5 years, and i went from welters to super heavyweight naturally, once i reached the supers i needed an edge, so i went to the dark side. why am i telling you this you ask? because i am saying that i pushed my body to its utmost natural potential before even considering using these compounds. i didnt even try my first cycle until this year at 25yo. i have been training since i was 15 and competing since i was 19. DO NOT USE THESE COMPOUNDS AT A YOUNG AGE!!! i cannot tell you how hard it is to get my body and my "nuts" back to normal after a cycle, at a young age you could potentially ruin your bodies ability to produce certain hormones (testosterone) naturally and you can also stunt your growth. and what girl wants a 17y/o bf with B**ch tits. Also i keep a diet log of every single ounce of food that goes in my body, and i consume 6500 calories a day, everything i do is perfectly balanced for my body, THAT only comes with time and experience, if you cant even dial your diet in properly, how can you expect to properly use any "compound" effectively. Please, save yourself from being another "wash-out" meat head at a young age, dont ruin your genetic potential, wait until your older and you can honestly say that you have done all you can do.