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As above.
I would like to know what everyone takes IMMEDIATE POSTWORKOUT.
Cheers!
:bb2::donut:
I would like to know what everyone takes IMMEDIATE POSTWORKOUT.
Cheers!
:bb2::donut:
Cheater! I use AP with my pre-workout. Haven't joined the darkside of the PSlin/AP combo. :twisted:I don't drink anything immediately after my last set, my pre-workout meal still has me covered. Instead I pop a AP immediately post workout then 20 minuets later have my post workout meal (whey, f/f milk, bagel, maybe a banana.)
just a suggestion... but I would think it would be best to consume some sort of pwo drink or amino's. you are more than likely going to use up most of your pre-wo aminos and energy during your workout and it is essential that you either get aminos or protein pwo. your muscles are dying for it and the sooner you can get them into you body after your work out the better. they are an essential part of muscle recovery.... just imo.I don't drink anything immediately after my last set, my pre-workout meal still has me covered. banana.)
Lol I haven't either man, I had been dosing AP pre/post and with 1 other meal (I liked dosing them around the most crucial time.) I have some P-Slin on hand and will be doing the AP/P-Slin combo in the summer (with a couple of different dosing times.)Cheater! I use AP with my pre-workout. Haven't joined the darkside of the PSlin/AP combo. :twisted:
I find my pre-meal covers me pretty well throughout my workout. I also read an article on how intra workout BCAAs inhibits initial muscle damage during training. However from time to time I will still drink an Xtend+Bulk BCAA combo if I'm feeling saucy.just a suggestion... but I would think it would be best to consume some sort of pwo drink or amino's. you are more than likely going to use up most of your pre-wo aminos and energy during your workout and it is essential that you either get aminos or protein pwo. your muscles are dying for it and the sooner you can get them into you body after your work out the better. they are an ese sential part of muscle recovery.... just imo.
gin and juiceAs above.
I would like to know what everyone takes IMMEDIATE POSTWORKOUT.
Cheers!
:bb2::donut:
Mind on your money? Money on your mind?gin and juice
that looks like the sumo diet. starve yourself all day. eat one big meal and go to bed. that's how they get so fat. the body upregulates enzymes to store fat since your body is in starvation mode all day. this is how the average american eats.Well, ive been doing the IF(intermittent fasting) diet the last 2 months. So i dont eat all day for 16hrs, then workout on a fasted stomach, then for my PWO meal, I eat most of my calories for that day from 7pm till midnight, then go to sleep. I then fast again from midnight till 5 or 6pm the next day. I like it.
daily schedule:
midnight - 6pm = no food
6pm - 7pm = fullbody workout
7pm - midnight = eats 2000 or so calories
repeat
Yea 2 AP separated by about 3.5 hours or so depending on type of day at the gym. It worked splendidly for me. I probably could have easily gotten away with just the pre-workout dose than the other two during the day but I never really thought of changing it. Now that I have p-slin though I won't be dosing the same way in the future.So you're dosing AP twice in about a 3 hour window? Are you noticing any benefits from the close dosing?
So the article is saying that intraworkout BCAA's is a bad idea? Do you have a link to that article?
lol, this goes against all that I believe in:rasp:Well, ive been doing the IF(intermittent fasting) diet the last 2 months. So i dont eat all day for 16hrs, then workout on a fasted stomach, then for my PWO meal, I eat most of my calories for that day from 7pm till midnight, then go to sleep. I then fast again from midnight till 5 or 6pm the next day. I like it.
daily schedule:
midnight - 6pm = no food
6pm - 7pm = fullbody workout
7pm - midnight = eats 2000 or so calories
repeat
you sir could never be so wrong. obviously you have alot to learn about how the body breaks down proteins after you have eaten them. For instance, you dont have to eat protein every 3 hours like everyone thinks (although there is nothing wrong with it, you dont have to). After you eat a steak for instance, your body is still utilizing the amino acids 13 hours later. So , basically, you wont go into that horrid word called CATABOLISM well up into 40hrs of fasting.that looks like the sumo diet. starve yourself all day. eat one big meal and go to bed. that's how they get so fat. the body upregulates enzymes to store fat since your body is in starvation mode all day. this is how the average american eats.
its definitely a solid formulation, no doubt about itbased on ingredients, I find that GOLDEN FINISH has one of the best blend of post workout nutrition.
does anybody agree with me??
Just a few quotes on the IF diet. Trust me, i was very skeptical at first, but my fasted workouts are really really good, and I have recomped without worrying about the dogma of 6 meals a day...every 3 hours bulljunk. If you havent tried it, dont disregard it....Here are a few questions/answers that obviously pop in your head when you think of not eating for 16hrs...lol, this goes against all that I believe in:rasp:
what is the goal of such a diet?
and yes, this does sound like the all American routine:cheers:
very simple...i like70g powdered gatorade, 5g creatine mono
20 minutes later, 50g whey protein
I'd just say settle with what has been proven to work for your own body...my 8 meals a day work perfect for me and its very easy to get 8 seeing as I have 2 people, also myself that cook meals...regardless of whether someone does not believe your method works that makes it ok to say 6 a day is bullsh**??? I could say your method is trash but I shouldn't because its person specific-so I could not give an educated guess...I've heard that yours might work but not for me, never had much trouble with recompJust a few quotes on the IF diet. Trust me, i was very skeptical at first, but my fasted workouts are really really good, and I have recomped without worrying about the dogma of 6 meals a day...every 3 hours bulljunk. If you havent tried it, dont disregard it....Here are a few questions/answers that obviously pop in your head when you think of not eating for 16hrs...
Of course people are going to be starving all day when they eat tiny as portions spread out. Your giving your body signals that it's time to "rest and digest", but not actually giving it enough food to do anything. It's like waiting until someone just starts to fall asleep and then kicking them.
Hunger is a conditioned response to years of eating at the same time. You stomach growls because it's noon, not because you're hungry. Wait half an hour, suck it up and deal with it. Once your body realizes there's no food the sympathetic nervous system kicks on full blast. Boom, no more hunger, huge burst of energy.
Once people realize the fat burning/exercise system(sympathetic) is opposed by the rest and digest system(parasympathetic) they see how much more sense it makes.
You wouldn't eat at a buffet then go run a marathon, so why would you eat if you wanted to burn fat.
In my opinion, the only thing eating small evenly spaced meals does is train your body to be smaller and function on less food.
Nothing better than rolling out of bed and just going to work. No packing meals, no pre-cooking, no worrying about ****. The best is the freedom from being a slave to the mindset of "OGZERS, it's been 3 hours and 6 minutes since my last meal, teh biceptz are going catabawlick!!!!"
Also, I technically don't consider sleeping as counting towards fasting time. Even though you're not eating, the parasympathetic nervous system is still dominant, as you're busy digesting all the food you just ate.
However, my personal opinion is that one of the greatest benefits lies in psychological and mental factors relating to being able to eat large and satisfying meals when dieting and not having to endure the hassle of 5-6 small meals a day. Besides that, there's also the mental clarity and improved cognitive performance which comes during the fast; making it ideal for some people who might benefit from increased productivity during the day.
I really didnt mean or try to say it is bull****....just trying to state the dogma of what everyone seems to think. Some people, like me, have used the 6 meals a day thing....ive also used 1 meal a day...both work and both have their advantages/disadvantages....for me....life is much much much easier preparing and eating 1-2 meals a day to get my macros in....IMO..I'd just say settle with what has been proven to work for your own body...my 8 meals a day work perfect for me and its very easy to get 8 seeing as I have 2 people, also myself that cook meals...regardless of whether someone does not believe your method works that makes it ok to say 6 a day is bullsh**??? I could say your method is trash but I shouldn't because its person specific-so I could not give an educated guess...I've heard that yours might.
pretty much just a protein shake. 50g protein with frozen strawberries and some coconut.
does that statement apply to lactose for milk also and if consuming yg does that change anything?All you are doing is replenishing liver glycogen with a fructose based drink. I'm all for using frutose to replenish liver glycgoen(does it well) but add some other carbohydrates to replenish muscle glycogen.
Just looking out!
Just a few quotes on the IF diet. Trust me, i was very skeptical at first, but my fasted workouts are really really good, and I have recomped without worrying about the dogma of 6 meals a day...every 3 hours bulljunk. If you havent tried it, dont disregard it....Here are a few questions/answers that obviously pop in your head when you think of not eating for 16hrs...
Of course people are going to be starving all day when they eat tiny as portions spread out. Your giving your body signals that it's time to "rest and digest", but not actually giving it enough food to do anything. It's like waiting until someone just starts to fall asleep and then kicking them.
Hunger is a conditioned response to years of eating at the same time. You stomach growls because it's noon, not because you're hungry. Wait half an hour, suck it up and deal with it. Once your body realizes there's no food the sympathetic nervous system kicks on full blast. Boom, no more hunger, huge burst of energy.
Once people realize the fat burning/exercise system(sympathetic) is opposed by the rest and digest system(parasympathetic) they see how much more sense it makes.
You wouldn't eat at a buffet then go run a marathon, so why would you eat if you wanted to burn fat.
In my opinion, the only thing eating small evenly spaced meals does is train your body to be smaller and function on less food.
Nothing better than rolling out of bed and just going to work. No packing meals, no pre-cooking, no worrying about ****. The best is the freedom from being a slave to the mindset of "OGZERS, it's been 3 hours and 6 minutes since my last meal, teh biceptz are going catabawlick!!!!"
Also, I technically don't consider sleeping as counting towards fasting time. Even though you're not eating, the parasympathetic nervous system is still dominant, as you're busy digesting all the food you just ate.
However, my personal opinion is that one of the greatest benefits lies in psychological and mental factors relating to being able to eat large and satisfying meals when dieting and not having to endure the hassle of 5-6 small meals a day. Besides that, there's also the mental clarity and improved cognitive performance which comes during the fast; making it ideal for some people who might benefit from increased productivity during the day.
As I stated before, it goes against everything I believe in...I like that though! That’s why we're all here; to share and to learn. It’s good to get a fresh idea about what has worked for someone else.I really didnt mean or try to say it is bull****....just trying to state the dogma of what everyone seems to think. Some people, like me, have used the 6 meals a day thing....ive also used 1 meal a day...both work and both have their advantages/disadvantages....for me....life is much much much easier preparing and eating 1-2 meals a day to get my macros in....IMO..
thanks
msucurt
Based on the ratio of 2:1 (carbosrotein) that is used to replenish damage caused by extended aerobic sessions, this would be a good idea to maintain muscle and fuel glycogen stores during/after some competitive athletic events. This 2:1 ratio ideal has brought much success for the acclaimed 'Endurox' and 'Accelerade' products. I know many that use this during long races, especially rowing.I've been using Anabolic Window since I picked some up reasonably cheap. For immediate post workout, I beleive the studies showed that taking in 20g of simple carbs with 10g of protein was enough to meet the immediate needs, then your post workout meal within an hour is all you need
I had been experimenting with this recently as well. I was very skeptical and thought I would feel like crap after eating 6 times a day for years. I was very suprised that I actually felt very good. Just to be clear there is always the options of adding in 1-2 small protein shakes during the fast as well. There are a lot of variations.Well, ive been doing the IF(intermittent fasting) diet the last 2 months. So i dont eat all day for 16hrs, then workout on a fasted stomach, then for my PWO meal, I eat most of my calories for that day from 7pm till midnight, then go to sleep. I then fast again from midnight till 5 or 6pm the next day. I like it.
daily schedule:
midnight - 6pm = no food
6pm - 7pm = fullbody workout
7pm - midnight = eats 2000 or so calories
repeat
Yeah, I got ya on that one....no problem.I really didnt mean or try to say it is bull****....just trying to state the dogma of what everyone seems to think. Some people, like me, have used the 6 meals a day thing....ive also used 1 meal a day...both work and both have their advantages/disadvantages....for me....life is much much much easier preparing and eating 1-2 meals a day to get my macros in....IMO..
thanks
msucurt
I may not be positive on this, although I think I am... But isn't the waxy-maize starch supposed to be consumed on an empty stomach void of other macronutrients? (this is exluding free aminos or BCAAs). The absorption factor of WMS would be hindered with a whey concentrate/isolate blend, pretty severly hampered with peanut butter, and to top it off with milk would definitely be asking for a whopping case of the GI grumble effect and some serious craps.Right now since I'm cutting I just do 2 scoops of ON's whey in milk.
When I'm bulking it's
2 scoop ON whey
2 scoop WMS
10g Creatine
2 tbs PB
Milk