State your immediate POSTWORKOUT drink here!

I've been using Golden Finish for a while now with no complaints ... picked up some Relentless during the sale at Nutraplanet ... trying that when the GF is gone

usually eat 3 eggs and 4 whites w/ 1 cup of oats 45min later
 
Big ups to Relentless. Only caveat is I'm still not used to having chocolate after my workout.

strester said:
I've been using Golden Finish for a while now with no complaints ... picked up some Relentless during the sale at Nutraplanet ... trying that when the GF is gone

usually eat 3 eggs and 4 whites w/ 1 cup of oats 45min later
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Force of Green said:
I may not be positive on this, although I think I am... But isn't the waxy-maize starch supposed to be consumed on an empty stomach void of other macronutrients? (this is exluding free aminos or BCAAs). The absorption factor of WMS would be hindered with a whey concentrate/isolate blend, pretty severly hampered with peanut butter, and to top it off with milk would definitely be asking for a whopping case of the GI grumble effect and some serious craps.
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Really man? I only started putting the PB in at the end of my bulk.. it seemed fine having the WMS with the whey, but idk next bulk I'll try immedietly having WMS then 15-25 min later having the rest of the shake.
 
strester said:
did you add anything to it or just take it as directed on the label w/ no added carbs or protein?
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Just some creatine mono. Its a pretty solid formulation. Check out the ingredient panel. NP has a killer (read: insane) deal on it right now.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Really man? I only started putting the PB in at the end of my bulk.. it seemed fine having the WMS with the whey, but idk next bulk I'll try immedietly having WMS then 15-25 min later having the rest of the shake.
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Cool wrasslin, I think you'd have much more favorable results.
 
Kris4153 said:
Sam Adams or ON whey protein ...whichever one I have on hand
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How about a Samuel Jackson? Good mother ****in' beer! You'll be ****in' fat girls in no time!
 

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12oz water, 3 scoops nLarge2 (choc), 1 tablespoon glutamine, 1 tablespoon creatine mono, 1 banana, 1 large scoop peanutbutter, lots of ice @ 80 g protein or more
 
rcaz01 said:
40g-50g of protein (Beverely UMP) and 30g of WMS.

I may be switching to just straight Whey Iso to save some money. I don't think the extras in the UMP are as useful in the post-workout. I have to find a flavor/brand I really like which I have not found yet.
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I'm using the Ergopharm GFPro Dutch Chocolate. Taste great and mixes well in a blender! You really have to shake tho if you use a shaker cup.
 
Force of Green said:
Based on the ratio of 2:1 (carbos:protein) that is used to replenish damage caused by extended aerobic sessions, this would be a good idea to maintain muscle and fuel glycogen stores during/after some competitive athletic events. This 2:1 ratio ideal has brought much success for the acclaimed 'Endurox' and 'Accelerade' products. I know many that use this during long races, especially rowing.

As far as mass retention (anabolic/anti-catabolic properties), it is NOT necessary for simple carbs after a workout. The carbs that you've been consuming throughout the week, the day, etc. should be complex carbs that will indeed guarantee there is no excessive glycogen depletion. A fast absorbing protein is reccommended immediately following an intense resistance training session. We don't need some 'super-carb' crap to magically shuttle the aminos to the muscle. It's a good suggestion for ectomorphs who are trying desperately to gain size, but as for most people you will end up just getting bloated and 'cosmetically' pumped.

As far as I go... I drink about 45 grams of Oryx Goat Whey (predigested pretty much) with water and I may eat a couple slices of Ezekiel cinn-raisin bread with it, or eat a wholesome meal about 45 minutes to an hour later.
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Hey man everyone is crazy about carbs after the work out..but your the first Ive heard of saying the carbs through out the day should be sufficient enough. Interesting...
 
footster said:
Hey man everyone is crazy about carbs after the work out..but your the first Ive heard of saying the carbs through out the day should be sufficient enough. Interesting...
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hes right tho, unless you are doing serious marathon workouts (over 90 minutes of heavy lifting) its probably not too critical to get in significant carbs right after. I still think it makes me feel better, but that could be just psychological :)
 
footster said:
Hey man everyone is crazy about carbs after the work out..but your the first Ive heard of saying the carbs through out the day should be sufficient enough. Interesting...
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Yeah, it's like going koo koo for Coacoa Puffs. Yeah, for sure the consumption of complex carbs throughout the day will more than cover your body's recovery. If you find yourself especially mentally drained after a workout, a banana is more than enough for some quick release and slow release sugars along with vitamins and minerals to get you back into balance.

The whole idea of 'jack your insulin with all this refined sugar' maybe holds a little bit more merit than 'take our nighttime bovine caseine before bed so your muscles don't breakdown while you sleep'.
 
Force of Green said:
Yeah, it's like going koo koo for Coacoa Puffs. Yeah, for sure the consumption of complex carbs throughout the day will more than cover your body's recovery. If you find yourself especially mentally drained after a workout, a banana is more than enough for some quick release and slow release sugars along with vitamins and minerals to get you back into balance.

The whole idea of 'jack your insulin with all this refined sugar' maybe holds a little bit more merit than 'take our nighttime bovine caseine before bed so your muscles don't breakdown while you sleep'.
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this is exactly how i feel :cheers:
 
Force of Green said:
'take our nighttime bovine caseine before bed so your muscles don't breakdown while you sleep'.
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this one always makes me laugh. If you are one that believes that your muscles will start catabolism overnight, then you need to do alot more research and read a lot more book in the field of human anatomy & physiology. It just isnt going to happen. Now maybe after 40+ hours of no food, then you might want to get a protein shake.
 
70g WMS
50g Dextrose
5g Creatine
10g Bcaa's
12oz Water
then within thirty minutes
60g Whey Protein
1 cup Uncooked oatmeal
1 Scoop Natty peanut butter
1 Banana
Whole Milk, Couple of Ice cubes, Blender, Tasty
 
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Whey (35g) and water.


I take P-slin before and have my carbs (Super-carb/WMS) Pre and during my workout. Also take AP about 45min to an hour after the whey followed by a solid meal with at least 40g complex carbs and more whole food protein.
 
I noticed a lot of you guys use Gatorade... but it contains HFCS and I avoid that as if it were the plague!

Actually I avoid fructose PERIOD unless it comes in it's original container!
 
Work out maxamizer has the right carbs to protein ratio. Love it. I recover very fast.
 
Quart of low fat chocolate milk, 4 servings of powdered milk, half cup of oats, BCAA's, 2 tablespoons of natty PB.
 
DaveGabe24 said:
Fruit smoothie lol and whatever else i'm in the mood :D

Post-workout drinks are over-hyped to hell.
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Fruit smoothies are dope after a long cardio workout. Hellz yes. I'm about to do a lot of cardio now and I have some sliced strawberries and bananas waiting in the fridge here at the gym for when I'm done. Then I've got a Boarshead turkey and 1 slice cheese with roasted peppers and balsamic vinegar on Ezekiel bread waiting for after the fruit.
 
3 scoops of Biotest Surge Recovery drink (original flavor - for some reason some of the flavors have a different nutrient profile)... and 2 teaspoons of sugar.
 
freakabe said:
based on ingredients, I find that GOLDEN FINISH has one of the best blend of post workout nutrition.

does anybody agree with me??
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Agreed. This product is pimpin.

I take ywellow gold 20 mins before infinishing the workout. I take in 50 whey with 100 c honey(maybe fruit) and Purple wrath
 
freakabe said:
As above.


I would like to know what everyone takes IMMEDIATE POSTWORKOUT.


Cheers!
:bb2::donut:
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currently i just intake around
5gm of gul. plus
16grms of zoneperfect bar
8oz-16oz glass of milk(8-16gm of protein)
1cap of kre-alkEFX 750mg

has been working out for me real good, soon i will substitute the glutamine powder with XTEND ...as i have heard/read alot of good stuff about the product.
 
Golden Finish is a real solid product up and down but the price is too high for me to justify using it.
 
I shotgun 6 beers and smoke a little crack with a protein/ghb/mescaline mix, Sh@t works great!!!!!!! lol

J/k If I am bulking it consist of either protein with fruit smoothie or protein and oatmeal, except for now I am not eating any carbs except for post workout(and carb ups) So I eat a orange and some protein...........and crack lol
 
Golden Finish looks nice, but seems a bit pricey... then again... If you workout 5 days a week, you get a month supply of all you need for extensive post-workout replenishment/recovery formula.
 
psychobabble said:
never had it, just searched it up ..yahh it is kinda pricey esp for only 20servings .. how does it taste/mixes easily ?
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mixes good. I work out three days per week Dc training so if this is the case it lasts longer. I used to take two servings of it. lasted me a month
 
used to be 1 scoop whey with 40g dextrose, multivitamin on a traditional diet.

now it's 1 scoop whey with 1 tbsp olive oil, multivitamin on the AD.
 
EasyEJL said:
high fructose corn syrup
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You're absolutely right! I'm siting here staring at the ingredients as I type this... I always thought that it was a glucose drink!! Wow! starting tomorrow, I'm gona have too find something else to drink PWO now... How is that ON 2:1:1 recovery drink?
 
wow its great to see so many replies here!!

keep 'em coming man!!!

:donut:


I think golden finish has a real damn good blend, but the price is steep!!


On a cut now, so For me, I just mix 6 scoops of extend into my blender, drink it near to the end of weights, and during cardio.

1 hour later i have a full meal with rice and chicken breast or steak.

do u guys think its enough?>?

I personally feel PRE workout prep is more important than POST workout prep.

:cheers:
 
freakabe said:
wow its great to see so many replies here!!

keep 'em coming man!!!

:donut:


I think golden finish has a real damn good blend, but the price is steep!!


On a cut now, so For me, I just mix 6 scoops of extend into my blender, drink it near to the end of weights, and during cardio.

1 hour later i have a full meal with rice and chicken breast or steak.

do u guys think its enough?>?

I personally feel PRE workout prep is more important than POST workout prep.

:cheers:
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I suggest giving "Nutrient Timing: The Future of Sports Nutrition" a good read.. It shows the science behind what actually is important, and when it is most important. This book has completely set the way I view pre, during, and post workout nutrition... In a good way :).. Oh, and it backs everything up with scientific studies... Such a good read.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
I suggest giving "Nutrient Timing: The Future of Sports Nutrition" a good read.. It shows the science behind what actually is important, and when it is most important. This book has completely set the way I view pre, during, and post workout nutrition... In a good way :).. Oh, and it backs everything up with scientific studies... Such a good read.
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thanks!!

could u summarize some key points that the author mentions! regarding pre and post workout nutrition..

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freakabe said:
thanks!!

could u summarize some key points that the author mentions! regarding pre and post workout nutrition..

:bb2:
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Sure..

Shake to be sipped from 10 minutes pre, throughout the rest of the workout:
  • 6 grams of whey
  • 24 grams of dextrose
  • 1 gram of leucine
Immediately Post-Workout (down this shake!!!):
  • 15 grams of whey
  • 50 grams of dextrose
  • 2 grams of leucine
  • 2 grams of glutamine
2 hours after the first post-workout shake:
  • 14 grams of whey
  • 2 grams of casein
  • 3 grams of leucine
  • 1 grams of glutamine
  • 4 grams of dextrose

This is all done in order to maximize glycogen replenishment, and protein synthesis.. Several studies are cited in the book showing the relationships between high GI carbs used in conjuction with a fast acting protein pre, during, and post workout.. And it's insane just how effective a little sugar and whey can be...

P.s: The numbers above are pretty much the base level, they can be raised higher.. the important thing is that a 3:1, to 4:1 ratio of Dextrose to Whey be maintained..
 
I haven't read anyone using Casien and Whey. I read the study that is says these two post workout is more effective than just whey alone.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
Sure..

Shake to be sipped from 10 minutes pre, throughout the rest of the workout:
  • 6 grams of whey
  • 24 grams of dextrose
  • 1 gram of leucine
Immediately Post-Workout (down this shake!!!):
  • 15 grams of whey
  • 50 grams of dextrose
  • 2 grams of leucine
  • 2 grams of glutamine
2 hours after the first post-workout shake:
  • 14 grams of whey
  • 2 grams of casein
  • 3 grams of leucine
  • 1 grams of glutamine
  • 4 grams of dextrose

This is all done in order to maximize glycogen replenishment, and protein synthesis.. Several studies are cited in the book showing the relationships between high GI carbs used in conjuction with a fast acting protein pre, during, and post workout.. And it's insane just how effective a little sugar and whey can be...

P.s: The numbers above are pretty much the base level, they can be raised higher.. the important thing is that a 3:1, to 4:1 ratio of Dextrose to Whey be maintained..
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wow thanks bro!!

currently I'm on a cut now(week8), do u think the dextrose for PREWORKOUT is needed?? For preworkout I usually take superpump250 or ragnarok.


Near Post, I start to sip on Xtend. 20 mins after post (which is after I shower), I immediately take 40g carbs, 20g protein 2:1 ratio.

Lastly about 90 minutes postworkout, i have my rice/chicken meal.

From what u say, I think I should shift more of my carbs to pre and immediate postworkout, and reduce my carbs for the postworkout meal???

:hot:
 
freakabe said:
wow thanks bro!!

currently I'm on a cut now(week8), do u think the dextrose for PREWORKOUT is needed?? For preworkout I usually take superpump250 or ragnarok.


Near Post, I start to sip on Xtend. 20 mins after post (which is after I shower), I immediately take 40g carbs, 20g protein 2:1 ratio.

Lastly about 90 minutes postworkout, i have my rice/chicken meal.

From what u say, I think I should shift more of my carbs to pre and immediate postworkout, and reduce my carbs for the postworkout meal???

:hot:
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Well, when I say 10 minutes pre-workout and throughout the rest of the workout... I mean that you begin sipping the drink 10 minutes pre, and finish it by the end (not at the end though, because that's where your immediate post workout drink is).. Drinking it before and during is mostly to blunt the rise in cortisol that would normally be associated with a prolonged period of weight training.

And yes, you can still lower your carbs for your post workout meal (around 2 hours after training).
 
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