Slim Xtreme DISCONTINUED!
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nevergoodenough
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Care to elaborate some? I haven't stayed current on USP products after Recreate did absolutely nothing for me.
plenny
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im halfway through a bottle of that now. wicked energy at first (3 days) tolerance builds quickly with these. 2 a day now and still feels like i may need 3 at times. app suppression is there somewhat..not like SX though.
in a nutshell its a "decent" alt to SX concidering all the garbage out there that doesnt work. also doesnt last nearly as long as sx..i can actually pop one of these at 6pm and be sound asleep at 11pm
WhatsaRoid?
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It blows my mind that this product has been discontinued, granted I could purchase caffeine pills in bulk and get a great value but nothing I've ever tried made me feel the way SX has. That said I ordered a bottle from nutra last week and still waiting for my next fix, I'm working 80+ freaking hours again and SX is the only thing I trust in keeping me awake and away from junk food.
Example, the first day I took SX I couldn’t sleep for over 24 hours and maintained a solid mood and work ethic. Granted that was only the first day and I’m also a firm believer of reset-ad in-between uses of stimulants.
I will be trying the redline pills and the new usp labs product only if I cannot get SX for my next go around. Thanks for all the information guys and happy new year to you all.
Example, the first day I took SX I couldn’t sleep for over 24 hours and maintained a solid mood and work ethic. Granted that was only the first day and I’m also a firm believer of reset-ad in-between uses of stimulants.
I will be trying the redline pills and the new usp labs product only if I cannot get SX for my next go around. Thanks for all the information guys and happy new year to you all.
MrBigPR
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DAdams91982
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Don't worry, your local tweak slinger can get you the hook up.
monstermash
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how did you order this last week? It's been DC'd for a while now.
sean vax
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Note to everyone who hopes to find SX. When you find something that works this good load up. Sx was inexpenisve hafe way through your 1st bottle you should have none it would not last long for what ever reasons like mahuang.
I have a dumb qustion what dose hafe life mean.
Sean Vax
I have a dumb qustion what dose hafe life mean.
Sean Vax
lonewolf0420
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The amount of time "it's" active in your body.
Random181
Active member
Half life is the time it takes for the compound to brake down in the body, so that only half its original concentration remains. e.g if you take 10mg of something with a 2 hour half life, 2 hours after taking it you will have 5mg remaining in your system, 2 hours later you will have 2.5mg.
chasinSKURT
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Agreed with above poster in regards to half life. Your right on the money.
camgirl702
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I don't know if this thread is still open but I thought I would stop by for an update. You could call it "Life After Slim Xtreme": #1) My right arm is about 95%. I still have some weakness but it has come a long long way. #2) Depression-I've been a lot more depressed than usual. Im sure that's a side effect when a person stops using stimulants or in this case an unusually strong stimulant like Slim Xtreme. #3) Rebound weight gain-I thought I had escaped this monster because I actually lost 5 additional pounds after SX mainly due to having the flu and not too long after that I had a bout with food poison. How wrong I was! My appetite has come back double-strength! I have now gained back 9 of the 14 pounds lost. Im still exercising but my appetite is totally out of control. I also feel my body is retaining more fluid due to previous dehydration. Well-there you have it. Hope everybody out there is doing ok. I would really love to find a safe but effective supplement but Im too paranoid to try anything else.
DAdams91982
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Fixed it for ya.
benj851
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camgirl702
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I agree that as far as appetite suppression no drug legal or illicit comes close to SX. Too bad someone can't invent something that is both safe and effective just for appetite suppression. I think most of us have the workout nailed down. It's the diet that gives us the most trouble. I'll always remember SX for two reasons: being the best appetite suppressant ever and almost losing use of my right arm!
angelo212
Member
Well I was going to ask why did you almost lose the use of your right arm and it hit me as I was typing this.LOL
kingdong
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I forgot to mention though that I did get an acid like feeling in my blood during my run, and My sample was only three pills, so I never even got to do a full week!
camgirl702
New member
I experienced limb paralysis(right shoulder/right arm) due to SX. It was absolutely awful! You can pm me for details-don't want to hear how im an "attention-seeking troll" making up lies. Thanks
tristacfoster
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the thing is..if you just read a little of the book natural cures that they dont want you to know about..written by kevin trudea, u would find out that the fda gets rid of everything and anything that works..just like when they got rid of ephedra, do your research! but guess what...they still sale the pharmaceutical version ephedrine that makes your head crawl and dont work like the pure ephedra did. the fda wants us to be fat and sick, it keeps the pharmaceutical companies going strong. How else would they make there money?
angelo212
Member
I experienced limb paralysis(right shoulder/right arm) due to SX. It was absolutely awful! You can pm me for details-don't want to hear how im an "attention-seeking troll" making up lies. Thanks
I thought you were talking about something different. Is that a side effect of the ingrediant that wasn't suppose to be in there?
angelo212
Member
That guy is a known quack. Please don't believe everything you read. Google that jerk off and watch science bury his azz. His down with the "Big Pharma" conspiracy nuts.
ax1
Legend
I think if you give Kevin Tradeu some time you will understand that he is right about almost everything. he is not perfect,
if you google him big pharma has put alot of propaganda against him. they consider him an enemy and its ashame that he has been attacked when again and again he has been right about so much about the industry and its corruption.
he is a true american hero
Zero V
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Caffeine is a drug. Hell adrenaline is a drug, theme parks should be shut down for giving out "highs"!!!
The only thing that defines "drug" is whether or not the FDA and medical corps are making money off it. If not, then its an illegal drug... Simple as that.
angelo212
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FTC Action against Kevin Trudeau, 27/7/2002
FTC Action against Kevin Trudeau
Kevin Trudeau developed and hosted radio and TV infomercials for a range of products in conjunction with two infomercial production companies, Mega Systems, Inc. and Tru-Vantage, L.L.C. Many of the infomercials had names such as, "A Closer Look," and were formatted to appear to be commercial radio and TV interview programs or talk shows, not the advertisements they actually were. Five respondents, including Trudeau himself, invented or manufactured the products or services that were featured in the infomercials and appeared in the infomercials promoting them.
An infomercial for Kevin Trudeau's Mega Memory System claimed that scientific studies of his system showed that it could help anyone achieve a photographic memory, even people with learning disabilities or low IQ's. "Kevin Trudeau's breakthrough techniques were developed while working with blind and mentally handicapped students," the infomercial said. "Their recall ability increased from 15% to 90% in just 5 days," it said, and stated that the techniques were ". . . guaranteed to work for you." In fact, the FTC alleges, the memory system would not enable users to achieve a photographic memory, and the advertising claims were false.
To settle the FTC charges, Kevin Trudeau, who developed and appeared in all the infomercials, including the one for his "Mega Memory System," will pay $500,000 in consumer redress and will be barred from making false claims for the products in the future. Trudeau will be required to establish a $500,000 escrow account or performance bond to assure compliance. Infomercial producer Mega Systems International, Inc., and its principal, Jeffrey Salberg, also will pay $500,000 for consumer redress.
angelo212
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KEVIN TRUDEAU, SHOP AMERICA (USA), LLC, ROBERT BAREFOOT, DEONNA ENTERPRISES, INC. AND ARBO ENTERPRISES, INC.
Associate Director for Advertising Practices Federal Trade Commission 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington D.C. 20580 Attn: FTC v. Kevin Trudeau et al., (N.D. Ill.)
A Defendants shall hereby assign to the Commission, without any encumbrances, all rights and claims to money or other assets due to the Defendants as of the date of entry of this Order, and the right to pursue any chose in action to recover any such money or assets due, under the terms of the agreement entered into on May 17th, 2002 between Trustar Global Media Ltd. and Robert R. Barefoot, including any addendums to such agreement, and under the terms of any other agreement between any of the Defendants and Trustar Global Media Ltd., Shop America (USA), LLC, Shop America, PLC, Shop America Marketing Group, LLC, Shop America (Australasia), Ltd., Trucom LLC, K.T. Corporation, LLC, Kevin Trudeau, or any entity owned by or held directly or indirectly for the benefit of Kevin Trudeau.
and Robert R. Barefoot, including any addendums to such agreement, and under the terms of any other agreement between any of the Defendants and Trustar Global Media Ltd., Shop America (USA), LLC, Shop America, PLC, Shop America Marketing Group, LLC, Shop America (Australasia) Ltd., Trucom LLC, K.T. Corporation Ltd., Kevin Trudeau, or any entity owned by or held directly or indirectly for the benefit of Kevin Trudeau, Defendants shall: (1) notify the Commission in writing of such money or assets; and (2) pay, transfer, or assign such money or assets to the Commission.
Be Wary of Coral Calcium and Robert Barefoot, 24/10/2006
In 2003, a newer Barefoot/Trudeau infomercial ("The Debbie & Kevin Show") highlighted and misrepresented the JAMA calcium study and claimed thatcoral calcium had cured many cases of terminal cancer.
Kevin Trudeau, who hosts Barefoot's infomercials, has been the object of FTC regulatory action for false advertising. In 1998, in connection with six infomercials that he developed, Trudeau signed a consent agreement to (a) pay $500,000 in consumer redress, (b) be barred from making false claims for products in the future, and (c) establish a $500,000 escrow account or performance bond to assure compliance . In the infomercials, Trudeau acts skeptical by questioning why listeners should believe various claims that the overwhelming majority of medical doctors would dispute. Barefoot's answer is simple (and incorrect). Doctors, he says, are too busy to read journals and get their information from drug companies; and drug companies don't want them to know that coral calcium is more effective than their drugs. (Doctors actually get most of their information from journals, continuing education courses, and conversations with colleagues, not from drug companies.)
During "A Closer Look," Trudeau states that callers to a toll-free number who mention the program's name can take advantage of "special arrangements" he makes with all of his program's guests. When I called the toll-free number, the operator answered "The Calcium Factor." When I asked whether this was a regular business, he said that it was just an order center. When I asked who owned it, he first said he didn't know and then said their names were "Tom" and "Steve." When I asked about the "special arrangements, I was told that the books, three videotapes, and three audiotapes were available free as part of a package that includes ten 90-capsule bottles of "Coral Calcium Daily" for $299.99 plus $19.98 shipping ($32 per bottle), and that buyers of the package can get additional bottles for life for half that much. The product contains calcium carbonate, 3 other minerals, and vitamins A, C, D, and E.The operator told me that the recommended dosage is 3 capsules per day, which would make the monthly cost about $32 for the first ten months and about half that much thereafter. I don't know what's special about the arrangement, but I found what looks like the same deal on a Web site for $50 less. Bob Barefoot's Coral Calcium Supreme, the product promoted by the Debbie & Kevin infomercial, has a similar range of prices.
angelo212
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Be Wary of Health-Related Infomercials, 10/9/2009
The most brazen health-related infomercials ever broadcast were aired in 2002 and 2003 to promote Coral Calcium Supreme and similar products. During the tapes, Kevin Trudeau interviews "King of Calcium" Robert E. Barefoot, who claims that calcium deficiency causes more than 200 degenerative diseases (including cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and Alzheimer's disease); that 90% of the disease in America can be wiped out by taking the right nutrients; and that a thousand people have told him that coral calcium cured their cancer. He also states that the underlying cause of these diseases is acidosis caused by calcium deficiency and advises everyone to get at least two hours of sunlight on the face daily without using sunscreen, a practice that would obviously increase the risk of skin cancer.
Leigh Valentine's Firmalift™ "kit is promoted by a 30-minute infomercial in which Valentine is interviewed by Kevin Trudeau. The system, which they refer to as an "age-erasing miracle," includes: Non-Surgical Face Lift Powder; Blue Peel Non-Surgical Face Lift Activator; Firming Facial and Eye Serum; Skin Renewal Booster; and an application brush. The infomercial suggests that the system is the equivalent of a surgical face-lift, can "rejuvenate" the skin, and can "reduce and eliminate wrinkles." Valentine also claims that "clinical research" has shown "up to" 40 to 67% increase in skin density, elasticity, and firmness." Moisturizers can make fine lines and wrinkles less apparent by holding water in the outermost layer of the skin, but the effect is temporary and does not alter cell structure or rejuvenate in any way.
angelo212
Member
Trudeau Selling Customer Information without Notice, 3/11/2005
Kevin Trudeau is Selling Customer Names
“Without asking permission from consumers, Kevin Trudeau is offering to rent the names and addresses of his customers to telemarketers, junk mailers and other direct marketers,” said Teresa A. Santiago, Chairperson and Executive Director of the New York State Consumer Protection Board (“CPB”.)
ax1
Legend
scientists can be payed to say and show anything,
kinda like the global warming hoax. they have all these scientists proving global warming, but there are MANY scientists that prove the other scientists wrong.
science is debating science. so we have scientists using science and we have other scientists using science, and some are affiliated with the government and other are independent.
its all politics and bs and LOTS of cash floating around. the biggest liars on the planet are governments. government workers include scientists. they will say whatever it takes to win over political votes and control of the public.
be careful thats all, truthers are the enemies of the globalists, and are subject to slander and a whole lots of other malicious goodies that come with trying to do something good for the public.
FTC is a bunch of corrupt political officials, i dont trust them for ****. they are a criminal organization in a legal way. dont pay attention to the crap they put on the internet.
ax1
Legend
yes, but there are scientists, and scientists with political/cash agendas.
why are there scientists that prove the globe is warming and scientists that prove the globe is NOT warming.
this is a simple and clear example that has a huge political backing to it if you look into this stuff.
scientist doest = honesty.
angelo212
Member
Your going to have problems with some people in every field but do you know the procedure to get a drug on the market? Sure there are some drugs that shouldn't have been on the market behind hidden data but that makes the regulations even stronger. It cost the pharmacutical companies billion to get a drug on the market. They must have very tight controlled studies. Could you imagine we didn't have any regulations at all? We would be like China and have contanaments and mercury in everything from toys to babyfood like there is over there. Theb pharmacutical industries medicine saves more lives a year then it hurts. When you or a family member needs a blood thinner because of a bad heart or cholestorel meds or blood pressure meds or radiation for cancer you will be glad we have a regulated industry with life saving medicine.
meathed
Member
Actually, there is no science claiming that the Earth's relative temperature is not rising. It is a fact indicative of the Earth's natural circadian rhythm. Given that we are not in an 'Ice Age' and have just recently emerged from one, it is only reasonable to conclude that we are in a long term warming trend. Furthermore, short term cooling, principally ocean cooling as measured most accurately by the ARGO system, does not in any rational sense disprove the fundamental dynamics of the Earth's cyclic nature. What is being contested is whether it is exponentially increased by human intervention as well as whether it will kill us all and soon.
Oh yeah, also, SX made my eye fall out and my sphincter start his own rock band! What an @ss!
ax1
Legend
thats exactly the problem, the monetary system.
invest billions to make billion more. do you know how many kids are on anti-depressants these days? it makes me sick.
its a shame we have such standards but the morals of the elite simply dont exist in many of them.
im not knocking them all, but the many ones with the money are causing to much harm.
the system safes lives, but its all heading in the wrong direction, trust me on this one.
everybody also wants to focus on universal health care (which i support) but unfortunately its just a giant distraction from the causes of so many people getting sick, which is food contamination, unnecessary immunizations, contaminated food supply, and just about everything in your local grocery store is poisoned with toxic chemicals from the farm to your store.
with all the brainwashing that the industry does (it starts as at young age here getting worse, saturday commercials, etc) its all seems to be a set up to get you on drugs as soon as possible.
ax1
Legend
thats exactly what im saying, there is no real science, but a bunch of politica affiliated scientists who are sucked up by the monetary system and power to mislead the general public.
good points you made.
they dont even call it global warming anymore, its just called "climate change" any climate change is bad and its "our fault" they did this after the secret leaked governments from the white house linked science lab in the UK had those leaked emails proving the globe was really cooling the past 9 years. they discussed with the scientists on how to hide this information as it is bad for the manipulative and controlling agenda that is to take place on our people.
angelo212
Member
This was a great post and the truth. Then I get to the last sentence and spit by oatmeal all over my monitor. Holy shi% was that funny.
DAdams91982
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Here we go again Kreskin. Why not Cocaine lollipops for kids then? Heroin pacifiers? Why not, sure would shut them up?
But hey, you are trying to argue that caffeine is the same thing as meth.... so good luck with that.
GoHardOrGoHme
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I mean by definition a "drug" is anything that has some sort of physiological effect when ingested...so adrenaline isnt a drug, its a biological response to prime the body to react, respond to a danger stimili and in the end survive.
No is caffiene a drug? By definition yes and seeing one can grow tolerant to certain dosages, addicted after a period of time, will alter behavior in order to attain said substance and undergo withdrawal if not taken in regularly...it is a drug of sorts. Is it on the same level as meth...heroine...not by any means.
Drugs have been a part of the human condition since before written history...ingesting certain plants, herbs, etc to get a sort of high is well documented and today we just have continued to fine tune are drug seeking behavior.
But i will end this post in saying not all drugs are created equal and whatever is put into certain banned supps cannot be compared to a caffeine addiction. Nor can an a caffiene addict sit down and swap hard time stories with an hardcore alcoholic. But i think many if not all of you would agree that giving a 12 year old a redbull is an all around bad idea.
No is caffiene a drug? By definition yes and seeing one can grow tolerant to certain dosages, addicted after a period of time, will alter behavior in order to attain said substance and undergo withdrawal if not taken in regularly...it is a drug of sorts. Is it on the same level as meth...heroine...not by any means.
Drugs have been a part of the human condition since before written history...ingesting certain plants, herbs, etc to get a sort of high is well documented and today we just have continued to fine tune are drug seeking behavior.
But i will end this post in saying not all drugs are created equal and whatever is put into certain banned supps cannot be compared to a caffeine addiction. Nor can an a caffiene addict sit down and swap hard time stories with an hardcore alcoholic. But i think many if not all of you would agree that giving a 12 year old a redbull is an all around bad idea.
Zero V
Well-known member
No, but technically Cocaine before it became an abused drug served many good purposes. Would not give it to kids though, and crystal meth has no place.
Speed on the other hand does have its uses. And Caffeine is in the same family as speed.
Not everything is pure evil because its portrayed that way. I forget alot of the studies now since its been a couple years, but Cocaine had a good upstart originally, it wasnt until John-Q public got it and abused it that it became evil.
Same as steroids... more often than not, it is in the hands of idiots that things become wrong. AS true with a drug as it is with a gun.
giodee
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giodee
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Doesn't meth=speed?
DAdams91982
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You are going back on forth on the drug idea, so I will just reference this piece.
Please point out to me where in the constitution it says people have a right to drugs.