Segansational's Motivation Log
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Hyde
Legend
Sometimes, it could just be the preworkout - you gotta get the right preworkout for the mindset!
josh_fitcheck
New member
Yo, logging workouts is clutch, I’ve been there with the slump too, especially when the energy’s not firing right. Ran Forskolin a while back and noticed a decent pick-me-up, but GLP-1s took the training quality to another level for me, especially once the food noise quieted down. Those days when the weights just fly up without feeling drained? Pure gold. Just my two cents though, not a doc or anything.
Smont
Legend
Whoever designed this thing did a horrible job.
Tried Forskolin but Glp1 took my training to a new level because I'm not hungry during my workouts anymore, now that I'm not eating any food the weights are flying up in the gym.
Pure Gold
Dustin07
Legend
Segansational
Well-known member
Well, I suppose everything is a tool. I'm not on the GLP train for me at least right now so... it was actually interesting as I've seen several bodybuilders and coaches talk about it lately. There's half the camp in the definitely use it category - removes hunger and suffering at the hardest part of prep.
However there's the other half that sorta says, the suffering is the point. Almost like a badge of honor. Now there's also the potential downsides of it slowing gut motility too much when you need to force feed on show day / few days leading up and not really being able to.
So, interesting just theoretically for me at the moment.
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M6, Wk4, D3/D4
Working sets,
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldowns, 3 sets
Dips, 1 set
TRX triceps ext, 1 set
DB Shrugs, 3 sets
DB laterals, 4 sets
Resistance band facepulls, 3 sets
Bulgarian split squats, 1 set
Seated leg extensions, 2 sets
1 hr 21 mins, 187 cals.
Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 2.5mg Y, 4 caps Rev02, 2 pumps XPG L-carnitine gel, 1g Choline Citrate, 1g Vit C, 1 scoop Allmax Collagen (10g). Bolded are new additions this week after my restock.
Intra: Same as usual.
Notes
Definitely not my favorite session this AM, and wasn't truly in the zone. But got it all done and then some.
Restocked this weekend. Here's what I picked up, some more creatine, multis, collagen, SNS daily stuff, and some more XPG gels. Also couldn't pass up some good bars and energy drink deals.
Random life stuff:
Getting excited for my short trip to Vegas! Because of the flight time and time changes coming back, I'm basically there for no time at all. But already booked two meals at some good looking restaurants, still gotta fit in a premium steak dinner somewhere, and am planning to work in a trip to the Newtech gym and probably Dragon's Lair session - mostly due to AM time constraints. Some of the other gyms like Fit Club don't open until like 8 AM on the weekdays, WTF??
Dinner tonight out with my wife, no kids. That's a treat in and of itself!
We also "inherited" a dog for the next month while my sister-in-law's family goes galvanting around the world. LOL. Kids are happy though, so another good "test run" for our family on whether a pup is in our future... wish us luck!
As I say this, my daughter came down and asked to walk the dog - so a good sign the kids are taking responsibility!
However there's the other half that sorta says, the suffering is the point. Almost like a badge of honor. Now there's also the potential downsides of it slowing gut motility too much when you need to force feed on show day / few days leading up and not really being able to.
So, interesting just theoretically for me at the moment.
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M6, Wk4, D3/D4
Working sets,
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldowns, 3 sets
Dips, 1 set
TRX triceps ext, 1 set
DB Shrugs, 3 sets
DB laterals, 4 sets
Resistance band facepulls, 3 sets
Bulgarian split squats, 1 set
Seated leg extensions, 2 sets
1 hr 21 mins, 187 cals.
Pre: 1 scoop Total War, 2.5mg Y, 4 caps Rev02, 2 pumps XPG L-carnitine gel, 1g Choline Citrate, 1g Vit C, 1 scoop Allmax Collagen (10g). Bolded are new additions this week after my restock.
Intra: Same as usual.
Notes
Definitely not my favorite session this AM, and wasn't truly in the zone. But got it all done and then some.
Restocked this weekend. Here's what I picked up, some more creatine, multis, collagen, SNS daily stuff, and some more XPG gels. Also couldn't pass up some good bars and energy drink deals.
Random life stuff:
Getting excited for my short trip to Vegas! Because of the flight time and time changes coming back, I'm basically there for no time at all. But already booked two meals at some good looking restaurants, still gotta fit in a premium steak dinner somewhere, and am planning to work in a trip to the Newtech gym and probably Dragon's Lair session - mostly due to AM time constraints. Some of the other gyms like Fit Club don't open until like 8 AM on the weekdays, WTF??
Dinner tonight out with my wife, no kids. That's a treat in and of itself!
We also "inherited" a dog for the next month while my sister-in-law's family goes galvanting around the world. LOL. Kids are happy though, so another good "test run" for our family on whether a pup is in our future... wish us luck!
As I say this, my daughter came down and asked to walk the dog - so a good sign the kids are taking responsibility!
Segansational
Well-known member
Forgot the supplement porn.
Smont
Legend
There's like 20 posts that all start with something pertaining to the topic of the thread that immediately transitions into something sensational about a glp-1 and ends by saying to consult with your doctor, I made a post about how they all end with the doctor thing and now it's got a new twist
Segansational
Well-known member
Bah, tomorrow is a deload day. Boring! I am thinking about doing a quick strength meso instead of hypertrophy next. Put RP on pause for a minute. Just found out a coworker did his first powerlifting meet. Super cool. Again, this just goes to show, maybe I just need to do something just to do it. Whether PL or BB. But that also made me feel weak AF.
Segansational
Well-known member
Well, talked some sense into myself and decided if I was going to take the deload week there was no sense in testing out strength on top of it. Even though I came in wanting to grip it and rip it! Put away my ego for now.
But, I will probably start posting my ridiculously light weights again - mostly so that you fellas can shame me into lifting heavy again. Negative reinforcement!!
M6, Wk5, D1 - Deload Week, 8 RIR
Working sets,
Bench Press, 150x5
Machine Flys, 30x8
EZ bar curls, +25x9,9
Seated leg ext, 30x7,7
DB laterals, 10x7
BB Upright rows, 20x6
Finished up with more post-WO foam rolling/stretching.
1 hr 1 mins, 147 cals.
Pre: 1 scoop Ignition Switch, 2.5mg Y, 4 caps Rev02, 1g Vit C, 1g Choline Citrate, 2 pumps L-carnitine gel.
Intra: Same as usual, +10g Collagen. Effed up and threw it into my intra vs pre-WO.
Weigh-in: 159.6#
BF: 22.9%
Weekly weight trending up, while BF% trending down.
Notes
Well, right on cue - the joints in my pinky/ring finger on my right hand started bothering me while lifting this AM. Made it a little harder to give my grip a good squeeze on curls. It was like my body was giving me that "you're old" reminder since I had an inkling around chasing strength again!
Noting that with my 2nd day back on L-carnitine gel, I am sweating a little bit more than usual.
Here's the end of my meso focus based on muscle groups prioritization just in case anyone is interested.
Life Stuff
Wife and I had a nice dinner out last night, followed by a short stroll around the block, and then finished off the evening with some Jeni's ice cream.
But, I will probably start posting my ridiculously light weights again - mostly so that you fellas can shame me into lifting heavy again. Negative reinforcement!!
M6, Wk5, D1 - Deload Week, 8 RIR
Working sets,
Bench Press, 150x5
Machine Flys, 30x8
EZ bar curls, +25x9,9
Seated leg ext, 30x7,7
DB laterals, 10x7
BB Upright rows, 20x6
Finished up with more post-WO foam rolling/stretching.
1 hr 1 mins, 147 cals.
Pre: 1 scoop Ignition Switch, 2.5mg Y, 4 caps Rev02, 1g Vit C, 1g Choline Citrate, 2 pumps L-carnitine gel.
Intra: Same as usual, +10g Collagen. Effed up and threw it into my intra vs pre-WO.
Weigh-in: 159.6#
BF: 22.9%
Weekly weight trending up, while BF% trending down.
Notes
Well, right on cue - the joints in my pinky/ring finger on my right hand started bothering me while lifting this AM. Made it a little harder to give my grip a good squeeze on curls. It was like my body was giving me that "you're old" reminder since I had an inkling around chasing strength again!
Noting that with my 2nd day back on L-carnitine gel, I am sweating a little bit more than usual.
Here's the end of my meso focus based on muscle groups prioritization just in case anyone is interested.
Life Stuff
Wife and I had a nice dinner out last night, followed by a short stroll around the block, and then finished off the evening with some Jeni's ice cream.
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Dustin07
Legend
Thor is 6'9" and 440+lbs?
Ever seen a man that big in his 90s?
I agree that a competition might be good for you for direction. Its too bad that CrossFit has gone downhill so badly because I think old school CrossFit would be up your alley. Your best athletes were rarely, if ever, 6' tall.
There are still lots of different barbell/strength based events and competitions out there, and we do have things like Wilks scores for a reason...
but knowing you these past years, it does seem like your passion is BB-
Hyde
Legend
If you want to do one, you get to choose your own weight attempts in powerlifting. It only has to be as heavy as YOU decide. The question to consider is if you will let comparison be the thief of joy, or if you could just go enjoy the experience for what it is. But I also don’t think you need to do one for any kind of external validation.
Never a bad idea to do a strength meso once in a while, at least once a year, for bodybuilding, if your body feels up for it. Also, being smart with movement choices. Choosing machines to get stronger on is safer than free weights for that purpose.
Never a bad idea to do a strength meso once in a while, at least once a year, for bodybuilding, if your body feels up for it. Also, being smart with movement choices. Choosing machines to get stronger on is safer than free weights for that purpose.
Segansational
Well-known member
Yeah, BB is my first love! But you guys all make me just want to lift heavy things up and put them down.
Yeah, coworker basically said for his first meet he just wanted him to do weights that he knew he'd hit all 9 for 9 on. Still put up a 705 total on his first meet, so pretty cool!
I do think I'd like to do it just to prove to myself I can and validate that I'm not just playing at lifting weights, but again, that's all just ego. So we'll see.
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
What happened to CrossFit?
Dustin07
Legend
bruh, do bothYeah, BB is my first love! But you guys all make me just want to lift heavy things up and put them down.
it got super gay.
When I got into xfit everyone said its gonna kill you, you'll get rhabdo, its dangerous. we trained for 2 hour sessions. we picked whether our specialty was endurance, PL, or Oly, and then the wods were the conditionining. we went to events every other month or so to find out who had built the best combination of oly, pl, gymastics, and cardio.
now they slam in you in and out of a box in 45 minutes.. you spend 15 minutes warming up, 5 minutes talking about the "strength" or "skill" work of the day. then you do a 7 minute wod. then you "cool down" and then you clean up. then you go to coffee with the other moms and meet up and lulu.
its not what it was. after we did a wod we'd slam a protein shake or aminos. look at the record board, then do another wod to see if we could beat a record. we'd hang out and work on muscle ups, hand stand pushups.
The oldest box in the nation was in my area, Rainier. They were a STRONGMAN gym that focused on strong man comps and used xfit as a conditioninig factor. now its all inclusive. they dropped "rx" and standards. its a complete joke now.
Dustin07
Legend
my wife is going to be 54 this month and even she says xfit is a joke and won't go anymore even though we have 3 boxes in our town.
gphagan1
Legend
Yeah, in the early 2000s I loved watching CrossFit, but probably quit watching around 2010. I had no idea it had gotten so bad. They are trying to shove that crap down people’s throats in every part of society now.
Dustin07
Legend
CrossFit used to have a pandemic of coaches sleeping with each other
Which makes sense cause everyone is about as hormonally healthy and surged as they could possibly be, the girls in their booty shorts and the guys ripped and shirtless.
NOW they have a pandemic of inclusive obesity. I've visited all three of the boxes local to us and the badass athletes are nowhere to be seen anymore.
Segansational
Well-known member
OK, so serious question:
I just found out there is a local gym hosting a PL style meet Oct 24th. That would give me basically 2.5 months to prep to do the 3 lifts (I can choose to also just do 2 of 3 in the format).
If I were to contemplate signing up,
1) Is that realistically enough time to get ready?
2) What would be the best program to help me regain strength and put up some at least respectable numbers again?
Note: I have not deadlifted in 2 months, and the top set there was only 160x6. All time PR all time was 305x1.
These days I am barely squatting and my bench weight/reps in this meso is only 165x6. All time PR was 215#.
I just found out there is a local gym hosting a PL style meet Oct 24th. That would give me basically 2.5 months to prep to do the 3 lifts (I can choose to also just do 2 of 3 in the format).
If I were to contemplate signing up,
1) Is that realistically enough time to get ready?
2) What would be the best program to help me regain strength and put up some at least respectable numbers again?
Note: I have not deadlifted in 2 months, and the top set there was only 160x6. All time PR all time was 305x1.
These days I am barely squatting and my bench weight/reps in this meso is only 165x6. All time PR was 215#.
gphagan1
Legend
I will definitely defer to Hyde on this, but considering you’ve been doing more bodybuilding style workouts for a while, with only 2 1/2 months to train for a PL meet, really isn’t enough time to do it properly and safely, in my opinion. There are a lot of good powerlifting programs out there, but trying to kickoff training and really go into prep to compete in 2 1/2 months just seems like too tight of a window. But I do think since you’ve been doing bodybuilding training for so long, that transitioning to a strength program like 5/3/1 would be great for you. And maybe just do it more for your own personal best, and look for a meet a little farther out to shoot for. And I agree with Hyde, if you do decide to compete, just do it for the joy of having your own personal goals to compete for. And let the drive of training for the competition help keep you motivated. And then no matter what your personal numbers are your a winner, because you accomplished the goal of competing. And I guarantee you if you set some strength PRs, when you do decide to get back to bodybuilding training, your muscles will grow even more than before because you’re coming back in stronger. One of the things I like about 5/3/1 is the flexibility of the program. You do 5/3/1 on the big 3 and OHP with BBB (Boring But Big) as some hypertrophy work, that’s a true powerbuild program that will not only build strength, but size as well. Of course you do want to feed those muscles as well.
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Hyde
Legend
Do you want to change your training right now? Are you excited by the idea to train for strength the next 2.5 months? Would you be okay with a total well below your best ever numbers, since you will need to progress slowly and carefully at a pace that your back can be safe with? Are you okay with striving for maintenance calories the next 10 weeks, no cutting or bulking focus?
If you answered yes to all 4 of those questions, then I would say you should go for it. You don’t need a steroid cycle or elaborate prep or peaking phase (which would be counterproductive since you don’t have a base of strength training to peak). Just stay on your TRT and focus on a consistent healthy diet that promotes decent recovery.
You could just run something like 5/3/1 for Powerlifting and test at the meet when it’s time. Boom, you get your strength phase AND then you get to get your feet wet, see if you have fun. Basically could run 2 cycles of 3/5/1 back to back, deload, then a 3rd cycle where the 1 week is instead a rest then test at comp. Done.
The really important thing given your back history and lack of strength training lately would be to START TOO LIGHT. And maybe start with the trap bar for deads first cycle, or avoid AMRAPs on them so you keep RPE lower where you can truly master safe execution without fatigue. You need to be able to lift without getting hurt if you want to make any progress & make it to the meet.
If you answered yes to all 4 of those questions, then I would say you should go for it. You don’t need a steroid cycle or elaborate prep or peaking phase (which would be counterproductive since you don’t have a base of strength training to peak). Just stay on your TRT and focus on a consistent healthy diet that promotes decent recovery.
You could just run something like 5/3/1 for Powerlifting and test at the meet when it’s time. Boom, you get your strength phase AND then you get to get your feet wet, see if you have fun. Basically could run 2 cycles of 3/5/1 back to back, deload, then a 3rd cycle where the 1 week is instead a rest then test at comp. Done.
The really important thing given your back history and lack of strength training lately would be to START TOO LIGHT. And maybe start with the trap bar for deads first cycle, or avoid AMRAPs on them so you keep RPE lower where you can truly master safe execution without fatigue. You need to be able to lift without getting hurt if you want to make any progress & make it to the meet.
Dustin07
Legend
Honestly I 100% think you should do it. You've been toying around with the idea of a competition for a while and this would give you a focused timeline to work towards and experience to determine if you want to take it more seriously with a longer training window for another.
you don't have to hit lifetime bests at your first meet, you'd have a chance to see what you can accomplish in a short prep window though.
you don't have to hit lifetime bests at your first meet, you'd have a chance to see what you can accomplish in a short prep window though.
Dustin07
Legend
we tend to be much harder on ourselves cause we are all lifetime gym rats. I have seen people sign up for their first gym membership and 2 months later sign up to go to an event where they humbly take last, but love the experience and 3 years later take podiums. in all age brackets. my most successful athlete was a 56yr old woman who got a trip to the Games to compete for a $million purse.
Hyde
Legend
That’s so true. We are the ones setting the standards for ourselves, and it’s entirely arbitrary.
I wanted a lifetime deadlift PR this meet. But my back delayed my training such that I am really just hoping to pull 600. Seg might be hoping he can TOTAL 600 with all 3 lifts without pain. John Haack can bench 600 raw at 220 with abs.
The numbers don’t actually matter - it’s just getting out there to do your best & hopefully have fun.
Dustin07
Legend
amen to that, and regardless of where the numbers come in, he won't be worse off. It just gives his training a purpose and he gains the experience he can carry with him whether he decides to keep at it or make a one and done type deal.
I loved competing, especially after I had a few events under my belt, grew to recognize people, and had confidence in my own abilities and how the events were run. I went from showing up by myself and not telling anyone, to later having friends come out to support. Its a great way to spend a day!