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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

All Creation said:
So Ostarine and RAD do not aromatize? And does an OTC PCT like Rebirth or Sup3r PCT suffice for Osta?

And if a compound does not aromatize, that doesn't mean it can't still cause estrogen rebound, after or during PCT, right?

Also, does RAD's property of reducing Test sides extend to DHT and compounds like Epiandro? Likewise, would it reduce any negative sides associated with 1-andro?
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Aromatization during PCT can also happen from your own test that raises and thus converting to e.
 
This article is chock full of info. But for a newbie such as myself, what would the best stack be in yalls opinion for cutting. My training is on point and dialing in my diet. Just want that something extra.
 
Head back to the start of the article and check out the info on Ostarine ☺ so long as your diet and training are on point and set up with your goal of cutting in mind osta should provide great results. I haven't used it for cutting but have been hassling people for info for the past couple weeks on all things SARM's related and currently setting up a cycle. From what I can tell Osta will provide the something extra your looking for. If you wanted to go a step ahead you could stack it with Cardarine for extra Endurance benefits to help with cardio etc. Make sure you have full research done on pct requirements for you cycle/stack as this is more important than the cycle itself!!! I learned that the hard way from a poorly designed PH cycle round 2 years ago ???.
This thread is filled with helpful info and guys looking to help. Keep asking questions ☺☺☺
 
beardedwonder said:
This article is chock full of info. But for a newbie such as myself, what would the best stack be in yalls opinion for cutting. My training is on point and dialing in my diet. Just want that something extra.
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Like Shaner091 said, check out ostar1ne. Follow the guide reccomendations and you will be gtg. If you have any questions just post them in here and we will try to get you straight
 
Sorry if this isn't the place to ask but did anyone order some tr3st from nutriverse and if so has any of yalls orders been shipped yet. Mine still just says awaiting fulfillment since 8/21 . Just wondering time frame
 
jmendoza251g said:
Sorry if this isn't the place to ask but did anyone order some tr3st from nutriverse and if so has any of yalls orders been shipped yet. Mine still just says awaiting fulfillment since 8/21 . Just wondering time frame
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Email max at nutriverse, he will get you taken care of bro
 
Shaner091 said:
Had a big reply written out and my phone felted it without sending :/ in truth I don't know a lot about SARM'S but there's a wealth of knowledge and knowledable guys on here dying to share. Plan on doing a lot of research on any compound before running it. I ran a PH cycle last year, made decent gains but messed pct so it became more about learning than gaining in the long run. I have a complete halo cycle done out including support and pct supps and I'm clear on the compound and all that comes with it. The idea of stacking it with a sarm really appeals to me now. I guess what I really want to know is; for the goals I have which compound/stack would you recommend or go for yourself?? From a purely results based point of view, supressiveness/sides etc aside, which do you think is the best option?? That's ks for all the help again dude and hopefully some new guys do benefit from all this!!!
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What would I go for myself? Well I can easily say Halo/Rad stack. I am so happy with it right now that I am truly sad my cycle ends this upcoming Monday. I saw just about zero side effects on this cycle as well. I had back pumps once or twice tops, and decreased libido. But that was it. Pretty fantastic, really.
 
jmendoza251g said:
Sorry if this isn't the place to ask but did anyone order some tr3st from nutriverse and if so has any of yalls orders been shipped yet. Mine still just says awaiting fulfillment since 8/21 . Just wondering time frame
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I don't think I got shipment notification either but I am not in any major rush for this product, just wanted to stock up and put it in a stash for probable use in a year or two.
 
Shin Sprints said:
Ha! I got a shipment notification just now...someone is reading my posts hahaha.
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Not me, I ordered a bottle of rad on Monday, label was created but it's still hasn't moved, I have two doses of rad left, I need this bottle ASAP!
 
In my experiences nutriverse has the best customer service. Max is extremely helpful . Nutraplanet, however took forever on a recent order.
 
zman86 said:
Fuarrrrk just blew $260 on the sale! Got 2 bottles of ghar1ne, another Radarine and triumph and a bottle of OL tudca and couple other things.
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Nice score!

Thanks for the OL support bro. You're gonna have a good time with those products!
 
kboxer7 said:
Nice score!

Thanks for the OL support bro. You're gonna have a good time with those products!
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No prob. Just wondering is OL UK ever gonna set up shop in the US? Like setting up tables at expos, NPC/IFBB shows, and getting US athletes to rep them? Right now companies like Black Stone Labs has a huge foothold on the US Sarm market, I think OL can really compete with them with the right marketing.
 
zman86 said:
No prob. Just wondering is OL UK ever gonna set up shop in the US? Like setting up tables at expos, NPC/IFBB shows, and getting US athletes to rep them? Right now companies like Black Stone Labs has a huge foothold on the US Sarm market, I think OL can really compete with them with the right marketing.
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I agree. I've used some black stone products, not sarms, but I'm not entirely convinced of their professionalism and quality. Their customer service/question answering is poor as well, at least on social media
 
chedapalooza said:
I agree. I've used some black stone products, not sarms, but I'm not entirely convinced of their professionalism and quality. Their customer service/question answering is poor as well, at least on social media
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I think there are some OL Reps here that handle themselves in a most unprofessional manner on a regular basis so it is not unique to BSL. When you combine their lack of professionalism with their ignorance when it comes to some of the topics they give advice (horrible advice I might add) on OL appears to be quite lacking in this department as well. Now I am not referring to all OL reps, just a few, but that is the opposite of what a rep should bring to the table IMO.
I mean lets be serious, with having OL in your signature the statement you just made about BSL is pretty darn unprofessional on your part. I have no affiliation with them at all and in fact I do not care for some of their marketing and the claims they make, but if I was a rep for another competing supplement company I wouldn't lower myself to bashing them. It reflects very poorly in my opinion.
To each their own I suppose.
 
StanleyG said:
I think there are some OL Reps here that handle themselves in a most unprofessional manner on a regular basis so it is not unique to BSL. When you combine their lack of professionalism with their ignorance when it comes to some of the topics they give advice (horrible advice I might add) on OL appears to be quite lacking in this department as well. Now I am not referring to all OL reps, just a few, but that is the opposite of what a rep should bring to the table IMO.
I mean lets be serious, with having OL in your signature the statement you just made about BSL is pretty darn unprofessional on your part. I have no affiliation with them at all and in fact I do not care for some of their marketing and the claims they make, but if I was a rep for another competing supplement company I wouldn't lower myself to bashing them. It reflects very poorly in my opinion.
To each their own I suppose.
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You are not the only person that noted the irony in that post. LOL
 
Ok. So I'm really new. Is your example of the lgd cycle. 4mg for the first 3weeks and 8 for the second three weeks for a 6 week cycle? And for the pct only a three week cycle? Just want to get some clarity.
 
beardedwonder said:
Ok. So I'm really new. Is your example of the lgd cycle. 4mg for the first 3weeks and 8 for the second three weeks for a 6 week cycle? And for the pct only a three week cycle? Just want to get some clarity.
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Yes sir! For beginners, a 6 week long cycle with the first 3 weeks being 4mg per day and the last 3 weeks being 8mg a day is a fairly standard recommendation. And due to the lower dosage, and somewhat conservative cycle length, a 3 week PCT is typically whats recommended following a 6-week LGD Beginners Cycle. Of course, an extra week of PCT wouldn't hurt, I tend to run 4 week PCT's myself. But that's personal preference. If there is anything else I can do to add clarity, please, don't be afraid to ask here or PM me!
 
hamdysayed said:
Hey bro can u elaborate more on cons vs pros more please ?
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I can try and jump in here, the pros are stronger GH pulses due to lowered somatostatin levels, the cons are some people notice less restful sleep and/or difficulty sleeping, a few have even mentioned increased anxiety and blood pressure. Now, not everyone experienced these negative side effects stacking Huperzine A with MK-677, but those that did obviously much preferred supplementing MK-677 standalone.
 
Lol it's not news that BSL is a shady company, I'm not sure what you guys are so shocked about him saying that.
 
Hastur said:
I can try and jump in here, the pros are stronger GH pulses due to lowered somatostatin levels, the cons are some people notice less restful sleep and/or difficulty sleeping, a few have even mentioned increased anxiety and blood pressure. Now, not everyone experienced these negative side effects stacking Huperzine A with MK-677, but those that did obviously much preferred supplementing MK-677 standalone.
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Very interesting thanks bro.
 
hamdysayed said:
Very interesting thanks bro.
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Of course, anytime man! The Ghar1ne thread has actually been very interesting, if you want to know more the anecdotal reports are coming in constantly, we're really seeing more and more about how MK-677 treats people, and what stacks well with it.
 
Hastur said:
Of course, anytime man! The Ghar1ne thread has actually been very interesting, if you want to know more the anecdotal reports are coming in constantly, we're really seeing more and more about how MK-677 treats people, and what stacks well with it.
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Link to thread please ?
 
zman86 said:
Shady or not, they making 7 figures in sales and their marketing campaign is strong.
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Of course, I'm not discounting that. Im talking about the fact they're making a big deal about OL reps talking about BSL like its some made up information they're pulling out of their asses.
 
rascal14 said:
Lol it's not news that BSL is a shady company, I'm not sure what you guys are so shocked about him saying that.
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I dont know about BSL as I dont see them here bashing other companies as part of their marketing or giving out horrible advice and perpetrating copious amounts of inaccurate misinformation. Sadly I cannot say the same for some of the OL reps on this board.

rascal14 said:
Of course, I'm not discounting that. Im talking about the fact they're making a big deal about OL reps talking about BSL like its some made up information they're pulling out of their asses.
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I am by no means saying it is made up misinformation, I am saying it is very unprofessional and a poor, second rate marketing strategy for them to say so. Now a good example of made up misinformation would be oh saying things like "varying degrees of suppression have an impact on leydig cell desensitization" or " Test was at one time synthesized from male urine"... just 2 of the most recent pearls of wisdom posted by an ignorant OL rep.You wanaa talk about made up stuff someone is pulling out of their ass......
 
Hastur said:
Of course, anytime man! The Ghar1ne thread has actually been very interesting, if you want to know more the anecdotal reports are coming in constantly, we're really seeing more and more about how MK-677 treats people, and what stacks well with it.
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I am having strange experiences with Gher1ne...first week or so at 10mg I was sleeping very well, then not sleeping well at all, upped the dose to 20mg and still am not sleeping very well...which is why I am posting this at 2.16am :p
 
StanleyG said:
I dont know about BSL as I dont see them here bashing other companies as part of their marketing or giving out horrible advice and perpetrating copious amounts of inaccurate misinformation. Sadly I cannot say the same for some of the OL reps on this board.



I am by no means saying it is made up misinformation, I am saying it is very unprofessional and a poor, second rate marketing strategy for them to say so. Now a good example of made up misinformation would be oh saying things like "varying degrees of suppression have an impact on leydig cell desensitization" or " Test was at one time synthesized from male urine"... just 2 of the most recent pearls of wisdom posted by an ignorant OL rep.You wanaa talk about made up stuff someone is pulling out of their ass......
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Yall take it outta here with arguments unless u got info about sarms.
and StanleyG if u want to correct some correct them and move on don't start an argument, u have very valid points u just make everything sound like an argument.
 
Shin Sprints said:
I am having strange experiences with Gher1ne...first week or so at 10mg I was sleeping very well, then not sleeping well at all, upped the dose to 20mg and still am not sleeping very well...which is why I am posting this at 2.16am :p
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That happend to me too should go away n start enjoying very deep sleep, drop it down to 10 mg
 
hamdysayed said:
Try it for 2 weeks and don't time it right before bed like couple hours that's what I do.
now if it don't workout n u decide to stop it, send it my wayyyyyy.
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If that doesn't work try dosing during the day. I know this is the less conventional time to dose but it does work for some.

I've seen a couple people take melatonin with it and said it helped with sleep too.
 
Big sale on OL and OL UK!!![/QUOTE]

How long will this be going on dude??
 
hamdysayed said:
Yall take it outta here with arguments unless u got info about sarms.
and StanleyG if u want to correct some correct them and move on don't start an argument, u have very valid points u just make everything sound like an argument.
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Cool Story Bro.
Now please if you don't have anything to say about sarms please don't post in this thread. LOL
 
Would anyone suggest a test base like Dermacrine when running ostarine?
 
Matthandyo said:
Would anyone suggest a test base like Dermacrine when running ostarine?
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I would! Using dermacrine with osta right now. I think dermacrine is the only thing that got me through the past 6 weeks with only 50g of carbs ed. It's not a necessity but definitely makes the cycle more enjoyable. Helps me get out of bed every morning at 4 am and go lift
 
How long will this promo last dude??

Big sale on OL and OL UK!!![/QUOTE]
 
yates84 said:
I would! Using dermacrine with osta right now. I think dermacrine is the only thing that got me through the past 6 weeks with only 50g of carbs ed. It's not a necessity but definitely makes the cycle more enjoyable. Helps me get out of bed every morning at 4 am and go lift
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Shaner091 said:
How long will this promo last dude??

Big sale on OL and OL UK!!!
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They usually just last through the holiday, will probably be up on Monday. Any word on this Volvo140G ??
 

They usually just last through the holiday, will probably be up on Monday. Any word on this Volvo140G ??[/QUOTE]

I believe I was told the 9th but let me get confirmation on that.
 
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