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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

whats the price for TREST? BTW, how is trest impact on hairline? Have done hdrol cycles wihtout issues...thanks!
 
Just brought a bottle of tr3st, pretty good deal. What is a good bulking cycle with it?
 
zman86 said:
Just brought a bottle of tr3st, pretty good deal. What is a good bulking cycle with it?
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I'm sure others will chime in but Tr3st best shines as a test base for virtually any PH.

Though as you'll see in this thread, others have ran it solo with great success. If this is your plan, just be ready for Estro sides above 75mg with an AI on hand.
 
kboxer7 said:
I'm sure others will chime in but Tr3st best shines as a test base for virtually any PH.

Though as you'll see in this thread, others have ran it solo with great success. If this is your plan, just be ready for Estro sides above 75mg with an AI on hand.
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Regular dosage if used as a test base I assume? Would 50mg be good if above 75mgs needs a AI? I would use this as a test base for my LGD run.
 
CJNator said:
Regular dosage if used as a test base I assume? Would 50mg be good if above 75mgs needs a AI? I would use this as a test base for my LGD run.
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I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.
 
kboxer7 said:
I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.
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I've never has estro issues or lethargy from LGD, the his best I've ran it was 10mgs. If I do get tr3st I will look into AIs to use along side.
 
I've read people running it as a T-base with SDMZ 2.0 or 3.0 but I'm not looking to run that many methyl compounds.

I was thinking maybe epi-tren or straight up t-var.
 
Re: SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

Joedoubledose said:
Talked to Yates today about tr3st , it aromatize a pretty good so use exemestane at 12.5 mg eod starting 10 days in
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Ok I can get that, how about the dosage if im using it as a test base; would it be the same as of I was going to run it solo?
 
CJNator said:
Ok I can get that, how about the dosage if im using it as a test base; would it be the same as of I was going to run it solo?
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50mg to 75mg is a great test base. 75mg and up is gain city on trest. If I was running trest solo it would be at 100mg and I would have exemestane ready to dose
 
uubiduu said:
Will you send the TD trest to your UK retailers too?
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You uk guys are going to be straight here in the next few weeks, if you only knew what we are about to hit you guys with...
 
One more thing.... Do you know or anybody know if trest will show up on my DOC blood work as steroids? I know sarms don't. They would have e to specifically test for that, correct?
 
Weathermark said:
One more thing.... Do you know or anybody know if trest will show up on my DOC blood work as steroids? I know sarms don't. They would have e to specifically test for that, correct?
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Correct. You taking a standard 5 panel drug screen? No worries unless they are specifically testing for aas
 
Weathermark said:
Is purity solutions legit? I ordered days ago and can't seem to get ahold of anyone to check my status.
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They are, but their customer service is slow as dirt. And they've had to shut down before to try to fix their internal issues.
But the lab rats do enjoy their research items....
 
Just order two bottles...and didn't use the 20% discount code...oh well my bad.

Currently stocking up on products, never ran anything like these products but looking to run something for 6-8 weeks starting in October...would be nice to have a few stack options :)
 
kboxer7 said:
I'm not a Tr3st expert, but I do know an AI should be ran alongside of LGD.

For LGD alone, El1minate (arimistane) would work just fine at anywhere from 50 - 100mg (depending on LGD dose) and with el1minate doses split twice daily due to half life.

Adding in Tr3st would add in an extra probability of Estro sides, so you might need something stronger if stacking the two....not sure, like I said, not a Tr3st expert and I'd rather have one of our other guys set you straight on that tbh.
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Who said LGD had estrogenic side effects requiring an AI of any degree? I mean, I always recommend having an AI on hnad, but LGD has never been associated with bloat, water retention, or estrogenic side effects to the best of my knowledge.
 
Hastur said:
Who said LGD had estrogenic side effects requiring an AI of any degree? I mean, I always recommend having an AI on hnad, but LGD has never been associated with bloat, water retention, or estrogenic side effects to the best of my knowledge.
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Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy
 
yates84 said:
Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy
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Yo Yates. Just wondering why do you recommend 2 pills of Eliminate a day in your LGD protocol you posted?

LGD example cycle:
Beginner
LGD 4/4/4/8/8/8
OL Eliminate 2/2/2/2/2/2
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25
OL Super PCT as indicated on label
AI of choice on hand
 
AndrewMcD said:
Yo Yates. Just wondering why do you recommend 2 pills of Eliminate a day in your LGD protocol you posted?

LGD example cycle:
Beginner
LGD 4/4/4/8/8/8
OL Eliminate 2/2/2/2/2/2
PCT:
Clomid 50/25/25
OL Super PCT as indicated on label
AI of choice on hand
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Eliminate is good for more than just estrogen control. It also controls cortisol and I like the lean dry look that is associated with it. Eliminate is a cheap way to get a little extra out of your cycle. It's nice to have estrogen a little low when you transition into pct as well since low estrogen helps trigger testosterone production
 
mixedup said:
yates84. For Ghar1ne how much do recommend for someone who's run peptides or actual hgh before
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I would still tell you to start at 1 cap and go up 1 cap at a time to assess tolerance. I thought I was used to mk677 and dosed 20mg of gharine when I first got my bottle and it put me on my ass. Go up slow imo
 
yates84 said:
Eliminate is good for more than just estrogen control. It also controls cortisol and I like the lean dry look that is associated with it. Eliminate is a cheap way to get a little extra out of your cycle. It's nice to have estrogen a little low when you transition into pct as well since low estrogen helps trigger testosterone production
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Thanks bro!
 
yates84 said:
Never heard of estro sides from lgd, just lethargy
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Yates my man...

This is a quote directly from your SARMS guide. You're the boss when it comes to SARMS so I was just going off of your advice. Possibly I'm misunderstanding something here?

YOUR QUOTE:

LGD 4033 - a SARM like Ostarine, but 12 times as powerful at only 1/3 the dose! Consequently, this makes it more suppressive to the HPTA. So, a SERM post cycle therapy is recommended. LGD has proven itself as a good bulking agent, where Ostarine is better used in a cutting cycle. LGD has a half life ranging between 24 and 36 hours. So, once daily dosing is optimal. A study performed at Boston University showed that healthy men who were given 1mg of LGD daily gained, on average, about 3 pounds in 3 weeks. No clinically significant changes in liver function tests, PSA (prostate issue/functions test), hematocrit, or ECG were seen or noted. Due to the possibility of high estrogen sides while using LGD, it is recommended that you have an AI, like Exemestane, on hand.
 
kboxer7 said:
Yates my man...

This is a quote directly from your SARMS guide. You're the boss when it comes to SARMS so I was just going off of your advice. Possibly I'm misunderstanding something here?

YOUR QUOTE:

LGD 4033 - a SARM like Ostarine, but 12 times as powerful at only 1/3 the dose! Consequently, this makes it more suppressive to the HPTA. So, a SERM post cycle therapy is recommended. LGD has proven itself as a good bulking agent, where Ostarine is better used in a cutting cycle. LGD has a half life ranging between 24 and 36 hours. So, once daily dosing is optimal. A study performed at Boston University showed that healthy men who were given 1mg of LGD daily gained, on average, about 3 pounds in 3 weeks. No clinically significant changes in liver function tests, PSA (prostate issue/functions test), hematocrit, or ECG were seen or noted. Due to the possibility of high estrogen sides while using LGD, it is recommended that you have an AI, like Exemestane, on hand.
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Anything that attaches to the androgen receptor has the possibility of in turn raising estrogen. I have never heard of anyone getting gyno from lgd but I would still have an ai like exemestane on hand no matter what. Sorry for any confusion but my guides and dosing are going to always be on the cautious side.
 
yates84 said:
Anything that attaches to the androgen receptor has the possibility of in turn raising estrogen. I have never heard of anyone getting gyno from lgd but I would still have an ai like exemestane on hand no matter what. Sorry for any confusion but my guides and dosing are going to always be on the cautious side.
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No problem man, just following your lead. That explanation clears up any confusion. Thanks.
 
CJNator said:
Ok thanks, I feel letrone would be strong enough to combat those sides since it had been used to combat estro sides in other people's gear runs.
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It might be but I would hope you would have some Aromasin on hand just in case. Some people need letro for Trest while others can probably get away without much of an AI at all, when the Trest dose is low. I've never had to deal with Estro sides but suprisingly there are people here who sniff a bottle of Ostarine and get itchy nips etc. Unfortunately most of those people probably didn't do their due diligence and therefore didn't know they had a pre-existing condition that was not at all favorable to messing with their hormones to begin with.

Never had Estro sides but I always have a bottle of Aromasin in the cupboard.

Excited to try Tr3st in the winter!
 
You should have seen the XL thin crust with ex. cheese. pepperoni and green peppers that I ate Wednesday night. Trying to put this GW to the test in PCT.

And that reminds me, I have a 12oz NY Strip steak hiding in the back of the freezer.
 
CJNator said:
That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.
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Better have exemestane on hand
 
CJNator said:
That is true, but a good amount of people have used it on very wet compounds and it proved to be effective.
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You know me I run a ton of wet compounds more than most I know jd tested it for brundel and I know what he was running. But trest just hits me extremely hard maybe because it converts to methyl estrogen
 
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