SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

yates84 said:
Start low and work your way up and you will be gtg. I'm ready to give away some bottles of rad for people to log, will be posting a logging opportunity real soon for some guys to run rad solo
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But what's low remember I'm on over 2.5 grams for pre contest. Whatever sarm I'm running is only going to be next to 250mg test per week so I don't want to waste a couple weeks you know?
 
mixedup said:
But what's low remember I'm on over 2.5 grams for pre contest. Whatever sarm I'm running is only going to be next to 250mg test per week so I don't want to waste a couple weeks you know?
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With that much test I would jump on rad, help mitigate some of those androgenic sides from the test. Start at 2 caps and go from there
 
yates84 said:
With that much test I would jump on rad, help mitigate some of those androgenic sides from the test. Start at 2 caps and go from there
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So rad what bout gh too or just rad??

That much test. =( that's my off cycle dose. My name is mixedup and I have a testosterone problem
 
mixedup said:
So rad what bout gh too or just rad??

That much test. =( that's my off cycle dose. My name is mixedup and I have a testosterone problem
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Ghar1ne too! I wouldn't expect anything less from you!
 
yates84 said:
Start low and work your way up and you will be gtg. I'm ready to give away some bottles of rad for people to log, will be posting a logging opportunity real soon for some guys to run rad solo
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Dang, I already placed my order for a bottle! Well cheers to the lucky devils who will get to log RAD140, the more info the better!
 
warpyfunch said:
Just throwing this one out there, even though it has nothing to do with cancer, but I think it's interesting that this stuff was being used in human studies as recently as 2012, which is well after the cancer studies in mice were conducted:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22814748?dopt=Abstract

And here's an ancient one from 2007 making a pretty definitive claim that GW does not cause cancer:
www *dot* cmtc.psu.edu/peters_group/publications/17.pdf
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As you can all read here GW alone did not cause cancer ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3026990/table/tab1/
 
mnemotron said:
As you can all read here GW alone did not cause cancer ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3026990/table/tab1/
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Interesting...!

Does anyone know why they abandoned research on GW seeing that it was so promising..?

Serious question for anyone in the know.. :)
 
mnemotron said:
As you can all read here GW alone did not cause cancer ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3026990/table/tab1/
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Even if it doesnt cause it alone it seems to be a strong promotor of cancer growth.And as cancerous cells are present in a lot of bodies i wouldnt take the risk.
 
T-Bone said:
Because it causes cancer at all dosages.
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I realize that it did that in Mice, but the studies i read, showed no cancer in Rats or Monkeys.
So i've wondered what else it could've been besides just cancer in Mice that made them discard it.
 
vujade said:
I realize that it did that in Mice, but the studies i read, showed no cancer in Rats or Monkeys.
So i've wondered what else it could've been besides just cancer in Mice that made them discard it.
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I think it's a big enough risk to stop FDA approval. I didn't like the stuff. I could definitely gain muscle on it, but no way I could loose any fat. As I said before I had to be constantly stuffing my face with carbs otherwise I would get strong low blood sugar sides almost to the point of passing out. Was "Hangry" 24/7. I think it changed my body somehow permanently because I tried to go back on a low carb/carb cycling diet which I had done for years after going off GW. After 1.5 days it was just too much....Zero energy, just feeling like crap. Before I ever tried GW I felt amazing on very low carbs....Now though, there is absolutely no way I'm going back to low carbs.
 
Funny I'm kind of the same I used to drop into keto np. But this prep getting down to just relatively low carbs is a struggle
 
T-Bone said:
Low "BS"?. I came close to passing out if I didn't eat every hour or so and it must be tons of carbs.
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Blood sugar lol and yea tht what was happening to me, but I was trying to go low carb but not too low since I had to stay awake.
 
T-Bone said:
Low "BS"?. I came close to passing out if I didn't eat every hour or so and it must be tons of carbs.
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Honestly I'm running gw at 10mg daily and I'm on cutting in a very low carbs diet.My BP is still good 125\70 this morning but the appetite is up...it definelty increases your appetite
 
hamdysayed said:
Good , this is insane tho that ppl still chose to use it and on top of that these cancer claims.... why it's even sold or why ppl buying it!
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Because the cancer risk is not in humans and yes it has been studied.

The biggest effect anyone will ever get from it is also using it with steroids.

Increased red blood cells +gw = blood doping. Which is why it's banned already with WADA. Huge increase in endurance.

I need more time but my article will be up on it when we give it away this month or the next. With tons of info too that I think people will appreciate.

Going low carb is a bit insane on gw. Tbone has got that correct.
 
Lucianooo said:
Honestly I'm running gw at 10mg daily and I'm on cutting in a very low carbs diet.My BP is still good 125\70 this morning but the appetite is up...it definelty increases your appetite
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Well I guess it is either treating you better then most or its isn't good quality, I can't say which one it is but if its working for you keep it up. How is the cardiovascular endurance and your BP?
 
CJNator said:
Well I guess it is either treating you better then most or its isn't good quality, I can't say which one it is but if its working for you keep it up. How is the cardiovascular endurance and your BP?
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I'm taking Brawn GW at 10mg daily today is day 32 and the only 2 things that I noticed thus far is that my endurance and recovery are increased.My BP has been always 135-80 130-75, now 120-70. 115-65 it seems that GW lowers my BP a little bit.
 
Lucianooo said:
I'm taking Brawn GW at 10mg daily today is day 32 and the only 2 things that I noticed thus far is that my endurance and recovery are increased.My BP has been always 135-80 130-75, now 120-70. 115-65 it seems that GW lowers my BP a little bit.
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Yes. It can happen with gw. Go ahead and do sprints. I doubt you'll hit 125 with gw. However...it does not make you go low bp.
 
CJNator said:
Well I guess it is either treating you better then most or its isn't good quality, I can't say which one it is but if its working for you keep it up. How is the cardiovascular endurance and your BP?
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I will monitor these things in my log coming up. Monday will be day 1 on gw. I plan on running for 8 to 12 weeks.
 
However T-Bone is right im costantly hungry all day long(obviously because im on cutting) but is a strange appetite is like you need tons and tons of carbs every time
 
pyrobatt said:
Yes. It can happen with gw. Go ahead and do sprints. I doubt you'll hit 125 with gw. However...it does not make you go low bp.
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I merely speak from my own experience and from other logs that I've read. I didnt mean it directly lowers BP.
 
pyrobatt said:
Yes. It can happen with gw. Go ahead and do sprints. I doubt you'll hit 125 with gw. However...it does not make you go low bp.
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GW can and will lower bp, I know this from personal experience. That is the main reason I run it in pct
 
Lucianooo said:
However T-Bone is right im costantly hungry all day long(obviously because im on cutting) but is a strange appetite is like you need tons and tons of carbs every time
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I'm going to include GW in my Ironman 70.3 prep so I know my appetite will increase along with carb requirements. Endurance training 7-9 hrs/week will be draining. Looking to see the effects on cardio and endurance.
 
p5sky said:
I'm going to include GW in my Ironman 70.3 prep so I know my appetite will increase along with carb requirements. Endurance training 7-9 hrs/week will be draining. Looking to see the effects on cardio and endurance.
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Log it if you can. I would follow. It would be really interesting to see how thing go for you with GW
 
Hey yall I'm still researching on how to maximize my mk677 run, came across few threads where they recommend clenbuterol to reduce bloat and increase fat loss and add on Lil mass, what yall take on this and why they recommended clenbuterol?
 
Lucianooo said:
However T-Bone is right im costantly hungry all day long(obviously because im on cutting) but is a strange appetite is like you need tons and tons of carbs every time
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Me too,i often search stuffs like chocolate or carbs.I'm 14 days in at 10+10mg,nice endurance but i didn't notice a lot of definition but i lost 1kg...
Ciao luciano ;)
 
mnemotron said:
pyrobatt how do you think about omega labs endurabolin?
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You should take a look at OL Carderine, 1 bottle is enough for an effectively dosed cycle and all our products are 3rd party lab tested and competitively priced. Get yours now, first orders are shipping out tomorrow!
 
yates84 said:
You should take a look at OL Carderine, 1 bottle is enough for an effectively dosed cycle and all our products are 3rd party lab tested and competitively priced. Get yours now, first orders are shipping out tomorrow!
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i can only order from europe or uk...
 
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