TJM5054
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I have been keeping this log on another site and felt I could get some more feedback here. I am jsut about to be done with the Epistane portion of this cycle so omitted it from the title.
The following log was started on 5/02/10:
"Thanks to Need2, I get to tryout and use N2Slin and Forged Burner on a cutting stack that is rolling up my fat and smoking it.
This cutting cycle consists of Epistane (IBE), Clenbuterol, ECA, Need2Slin, and Forged Burner.
I know this sounds overkill but these will be taken at different days and times throughout the cycle.
I am currently a little over half way through the Epistane portion of my cycle.
Stats:
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 163lbs
Bodyfat: around 10-12% using bodyfat caliper. Though it might not be entirely accurate, it will gauge whether I am losing body fat percent (goal of cycle, see below). Moving the needle lower.
Goal: Drop to <8% body fat percent. This will largely be determined by mirror and bodyfat calipar and not so much by weight.
Why? I currently have a solid 4 pack but it needs more defined and would like to get to a solid defined 6 pack. I have always been on the heavier side throughout my life and only until recently have I got my life in order and have finally been dropping bodyfat percent drastically. My body and life has improved so much.
I threw in the Epi to this strong cutting stack to maintain muscle (and possibly even increase it which has happened, see below).
These last few body % has been quite stubborn so decided to try and cut it up with the help of supplementation.
Nutrition:
This is where I think N2Slin will be interesting to test out as I run the unorthodox Intermittent Fasting Leangains by Martin Berkhan at LeanGains.com along with eating Paleo foods (not strict though).
Like I said, I used to be heavy, in the sense of short and bulky, for various strength sports. By just following diet the past few months I have been able to drop tons of bodyfat % and almost 30 plus pounds, unfortunately some of it muscle.
This massive drop has been due in part to following Martin Berkhan's Leangains Intermittent Fasting program while following paleo nutrition (meats, fish, fruits, oils, fats, nuts, veggies, etc..).
I will mess around maintenance calories and adjust accordingly based on my goal.
Training:
Strictly compound movements, 5x5-8, 4-5 different exercises a day, done 3-4x a week. Consists solely of squats, deadlifts, bench press, incline press, barbell standing military, barbell rows, barbell lunges, chinups, dips, and pushups.
I like to keep it simple and rest a lot. So far its working and no need to change it up as of now.
Cycle:
Ok on to the cycle. Like I said, I am a little halfway through this cycle (at least the Epi portion of it).
Here is how I have it setup through various consultations.
The ECA/Clen will be two weeks Clen then two weeks ECA for a total of 6 weeks.
Need2Slin and Forged Burner will be started around day 20 of cycle and will continue throughout PCT.
Epistane: Have done a couple cycles of this compound on cuts and always amazes me the muscle mass retention, and even gains, while cutting.
30mg day for 30 days. Started on April 11, 2010.
Epi will be run 4/11/2010-5/10/2010
ECA: Have years of experience with ECA.
25mg E/200C(though I might substitute the Forged Burner in for the Caffeine).
Started on April 19th until April 27th. Will be doing two weeks ECA on then off while two week on the Clen. Will continue to run on May 12th until May 25th.
ECA will be run 4/19/2010-4/27/2010 and 5/12/2010-5/25/2010
Clen: Have done a couple cycles of Clen before. Will be interesting to compare the fat loss of N2Slin and Forged Burner when I cycle off the Clen and also give some comparisons.
As of now I can already tell you the Forged Burner is heating me up quite a bit (see log below).
Starting at 20mcg working up to until sides become to much probably around 80-120mcg.
Started on April 28th. Will run from April 28th until May 11th. Off 2 weeks then back on from May 26th until June 8th.
Clen will be run 4/28/2010-4/11/2010 and 5/26/2010-6/8/2010
Forged Burner: Probably will run 1 am and 1 mid day/pre workout.
Started on April 29th and will run until May 28th. Will run until empty so 2 pills a day by 30 serving equals 30 days.
This will be run throughout Epistane, Clen, and ECA cycling.
Need2Slin: I thought about saving this for PCT but while searching through logs, I found it can be quite effective during cycle. So I figured why not introduce it around day 20 of Epistane (actually day 19) and go with probably 2 pills a day (I am pretty light) which will take me through the end of my Epi cycle and all through PCT.
N2Slin will be run 4/29/2010-Until bottle runs out
Support Supps:
Cycle Support
Taurine
Fish Oil
B-Complex
Multi
Cissus
Hawthorne Berry
B-5
PCT:
Nolva
Inhibit-E: 40 pills left over from previous cycle
Creatine
Possibly some DAA (D-Aspartic Acid)
Possibly some I3C
Also the Need2Slin, Forged Burner, Clen, ECA, and Forged Burner will continue after end of Epistane cycle.
Concerns:
Blood pressure will be the biggest concern. Will be monitored closely. Since I dropped tons of weight my blood pressure has been sitting really nice (almost too low) around 100/60. Obviously these supplements will drastically raise that. If any concerns arise, cycle will be tapered back or stopped completely.
Muscle. Will be concerned about eating muscle and hope the Epistane will maintain muscle, along with high protein and solid diet.
Edit: Overtraining. I noticed yesterday while starting up the Forged and N2Slin day 19 of Epistane cycle that I felt so good in the gym I was tempted to sit around and do the **** I hate like curls, abs, etc..
The following log was started on 5/02/10:
"Thanks to Need2, I get to tryout and use N2Slin and Forged Burner on a cutting stack that is rolling up my fat and smoking it.
This cutting cycle consists of Epistane (IBE), Clenbuterol, ECA, Need2Slin, and Forged Burner.
I know this sounds overkill but these will be taken at different days and times throughout the cycle.
I am currently a little over half way through the Epistane portion of my cycle.
Stats:
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 163lbs
Bodyfat: around 10-12% using bodyfat caliper. Though it might not be entirely accurate, it will gauge whether I am losing body fat percent (goal of cycle, see below). Moving the needle lower.
Goal: Drop to <8% body fat percent. This will largely be determined by mirror and bodyfat calipar and not so much by weight.
Why? I currently have a solid 4 pack but it needs more defined and would like to get to a solid defined 6 pack. I have always been on the heavier side throughout my life and only until recently have I got my life in order and have finally been dropping bodyfat percent drastically. My body and life has improved so much.
I threw in the Epi to this strong cutting stack to maintain muscle (and possibly even increase it which has happened, see below).
These last few body % has been quite stubborn so decided to try and cut it up with the help of supplementation.
Nutrition:
This is where I think N2Slin will be interesting to test out as I run the unorthodox Intermittent Fasting Leangains by Martin Berkhan at LeanGains.com along with eating Paleo foods (not strict though).
Like I said, I used to be heavy, in the sense of short and bulky, for various strength sports. By just following diet the past few months I have been able to drop tons of bodyfat % and almost 30 plus pounds, unfortunately some of it muscle.
This massive drop has been due in part to following Martin Berkhan's Leangains Intermittent Fasting program while following paleo nutrition (meats, fish, fruits, oils, fats, nuts, veggies, etc..).
I will mess around maintenance calories and adjust accordingly based on my goal.
Training:
Strictly compound movements, 5x5-8, 4-5 different exercises a day, done 3-4x a week. Consists solely of squats, deadlifts, bench press, incline press, barbell standing military, barbell rows, barbell lunges, chinups, dips, and pushups.
I like to keep it simple and rest a lot. So far its working and no need to change it up as of now.
Cycle:
Ok on to the cycle. Like I said, I am a little halfway through this cycle (at least the Epi portion of it).
Here is how I have it setup through various consultations.
The ECA/Clen will be two weeks Clen then two weeks ECA for a total of 6 weeks.
Need2Slin and Forged Burner will be started around day 20 of cycle and will continue throughout PCT.
Epistane: Have done a couple cycles of this compound on cuts and always amazes me the muscle mass retention, and even gains, while cutting.
30mg day for 30 days. Started on April 11, 2010.
Epi will be run 4/11/2010-5/10/2010
ECA: Have years of experience with ECA.
25mg E/200C(though I might substitute the Forged Burner in for the Caffeine).
Started on April 19th until April 27th. Will be doing two weeks ECA on then off while two week on the Clen. Will continue to run on May 12th until May 25th.
ECA will be run 4/19/2010-4/27/2010 and 5/12/2010-5/25/2010
Clen: Have done a couple cycles of Clen before. Will be interesting to compare the fat loss of N2Slin and Forged Burner when I cycle off the Clen and also give some comparisons.
As of now I can already tell you the Forged Burner is heating me up quite a bit (see log below).
Starting at 20mcg working up to until sides become to much probably around 80-120mcg.
Started on April 28th. Will run from April 28th until May 11th. Off 2 weeks then back on from May 26th until June 8th.
Clen will be run 4/28/2010-4/11/2010 and 5/26/2010-6/8/2010
Forged Burner: Probably will run 1 am and 1 mid day/pre workout.
Started on April 29th and will run until May 28th. Will run until empty so 2 pills a day by 30 serving equals 30 days.
This will be run throughout Epistane, Clen, and ECA cycling.
Need2Slin: I thought about saving this for PCT but while searching through logs, I found it can be quite effective during cycle. So I figured why not introduce it around day 20 of Epistane (actually day 19) and go with probably 2 pills a day (I am pretty light) which will take me through the end of my Epi cycle and all through PCT.
N2Slin will be run 4/29/2010-Until bottle runs out
Support Supps:
Cycle Support
Taurine
Fish Oil
B-Complex
Multi
Cissus
Hawthorne Berry
B-5
PCT:
Nolva
Inhibit-E: 40 pills left over from previous cycle
Creatine
Possibly some DAA (D-Aspartic Acid)
Possibly some I3C
Also the Need2Slin, Forged Burner, Clen, ECA, and Forged Burner will continue after end of Epistane cycle.
Concerns:
Blood pressure will be the biggest concern. Will be monitored closely. Since I dropped tons of weight my blood pressure has been sitting really nice (almost too low) around 100/60. Obviously these supplements will drastically raise that. If any concerns arise, cycle will be tapered back or stopped completely.
Muscle. Will be concerned about eating muscle and hope the Epistane will maintain muscle, along with high protein and solid diet.
Edit: Overtraining. I noticed yesterday while starting up the Forged and N2Slin day 19 of Epistane cycle that I felt so good in the gym I was tempted to sit around and do the **** I hate like curls, abs, etc..
