Q and A for Olympus labs TR3ST

If you want to maximize your gains in 8 weeks it really depends on your program. Your forearms could gain 1-2 inches if your program consists of playing xbox.

If you don't take something for estro side effects you will most likely gain at least a cup size.

Seriously, you can do a lot 8 weeks. I am doing 6 and my weight is up 7 lbs. it was up 9-10 the week leading up to estro sides rearing their ugly head.

But i trained 4-5 days a week and ate like I was sumo wrestler at an all you can eat buffet- waking up in the middle of the night eating a PB&J and a glass of whole milk. I usually do not eat much.
If you are going to run TD Trest pick up a bottle of caps as well and toss back a couple PWO, you will swear like a pig but you workout like an animal. At least I did.
 
kelso312 said:
If you want to maximize your gains in 8 weeks it really depends on your program. Your forearms could gain 1-2 inches if your program consists of playing xbox.

If you don't take something for estro side effects you will most likely gain at least a cup size.

Seriously, you can do a lot 8 weeks. I am doing 6 and my weight is up 7 lbs. it was up 9-10 the week leading up to estro sides rearing their ugly head.

But i trained 4-5 days a week and ate like I was sumo wrestler at an all you can eat buffet- waking up in the middle of the night eating a PB&J and a glass of whole milk. I usually do not eat much.
If you are going to run TD Trest pick up a bottle of caps as well and toss back a couple PWO, you will swear like a pig but you workout like an animal. At least I did.
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I like the cut of your jib, kelso312
 
comunitylando said:
are there any cycle results reports showing lean mass gained?
I always see people showing weight but we all know you can gain 10lb of water and glycogen.
If there are any, I'm highly interested in the DermaTrest!
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FYI glycogen/water weight counts as lean mass technically. If you want to figure out how much actual muscle tissue is built that's nearly impossible to calculate. I gained roughly 14lbs of lean mass and 1lb of fat on my last bulk which was tr3st and LGD(dexa scan results) just to give you an idea.
 
paul56778 said:
What AI is best for this, when dosing starts going above 75mg per day with oral / tab version.
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I always loved formestane but if TD is not an option, I'd go with aromasin. Better have some arimidex on hand just in case though.
 
paul56778 said:
What AI is best for this, when dosing starts going above 75mg per day with oral / tab version.
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Formestane is a good option for 50-75 mg for some users. Sometimes, particularly at 100 mg or more of Trest, Formestane might not be strong enough. In my opinion, exemestane at 12.5-25 mg EOD is a very reliable way to control methylestrogen.
 
Also what is highest dose before diminishing returns e.g. any benefit of going over 100mg and upto 150-200mg per day.
 
paul56778 said:
Also what is highest dose before diminishing returns e.g. any benefit of going over 100mg and upto 150-200mg per day.
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Controlling the sides gets much more difficult going that high for most people. I personally never needed to go over 100 mg but I feel I could push it to 150 mg. I really don't see the need to go up to 200 mg.
 
7eman7 said:
FYI glycogen/water weight counts as lean mass technically. If you want to figure out how much actual muscle tissue is built that's nearly impossible to calculate. I gained roughly 14lbs of lean mass and 1lb of fat on my last bulk which was tr3st and LGD(dexa scan results) just to give you an idea.
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How long was your cycle
 
Zachman808 I've been the first one in Hawaii to use Olympus labs products. Yes they do or you can get it from another company that sells their products. I've been using their products since 2014
 
Jebrook said:
Ralox is a SERM FYI. It can be used on cycle but I tend to prefer a true suicidal AI, like Aromasin for Gyno prevention.
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Right, just like Nolva. And I know people who will use Nolva @10mg EOD when on cycle with Trest and it works. But IMO, Ralox would be better as it's not toxic.
 
I've used low dose Nolva with Adex but never just Nolva. I don't play games with Trest though.
 
BigGame84 said:
Right, just like Nolva. And I know people who will use Nolva @10mg EOD when on cycle with Trest and it works. But IMO, Ralox would be better as it's not toxic.
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Yes, it would probably work. Just making sure you understood the difference. IMO, it is better to treat the cause of high estro rather than take something to treat the symptoms while on cycle. Just my .02. There are plenty of ways to tackle the issue. Taking a SERM like Ralox will block the estrogen receptors and prevent the high estro levels from iliciting negatives sides such as Gyno, but will do nothing to lower estro. I think it is better to use an AI to keep estro from getting out of range on cycle and using a SERM during pct to allow estro to rebound and then normalize without encountering high estro sides.
 
I also wonder if Virtus at 1.5mL would be enough as an AI. I also have a bunch of Mestebol which is supposed to act like Proviron.
 
Jebrook said:
Yes, it would probably work. Just making sure you understood the difference. IMO, it is better to treat the cause of high estro rather than take something to treat the symptoms while on cycle. Just my .02. There are plenty of ways to tackle the issue. Taking a SERM like Ralox will block the estrogen receptors and prevent the high estro levels from iliciting negatives sides such as Gyno, but will do nothing to lower estro. I think it is better to use an AI to keep estro from getting out of range on cycle and using a SERM during pct to allow estro to rebound and then normalize without encountering high estro sides.
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I agree with this ^^^.

Virtus IMO wouldn't be enough. I wouldn't go with anything less than a pharma AI with Trest.
 
Looking to run the same minus the oral 50mg preworkout, that is 100mg ED TD alongside 75mg Halo. Been recommended to start with a lower dose of 6.25mg EOD Exemestane from someone else who experienced crashed estro levels from overdosing the AI. Anyone else run Exem at such a low dose? Would hate to jeopardise gains. Perhaps a low dose Nolva EOD alongside would serve benefits allowing to be a little more conservative with the AI although I'm not a fan of SERMs IGF lowering effects while on cycle not to mention SERMs are a great libido killer for me. Want to make the most of being horny AF on trest.
 
I ran trest at 150-200mg a day, no ai till the end.
Ais severely limit your gains on cycle, and should be used if needed only.
Don't use more drugs unless necessary.
 
reps4jesus said:
I ran trest at 150-200mg a day, no ai till the end.
Ais severely limit your gains on cycle, and should be used if needed only.
Don't use more drugs unless necessary.
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Exactly on point. Guys another thing to remember is when running a cycle or doing a pct whichever the case is everyone is going to react differently to anything they inject or ingest. Some guys can take a boat load of gear and never need an AI, some just look at a bottle and bam titties please. So what i've told a people in the past really theres certain guidelines you can adby to but in the end its really bro science so start off small with a conservative dose and increase if necessary. Honestly i don't see a point in an AI if your not having any bad sides like stated above it hinders your gains and in the end that is what your trying to achieve. I'd never start a run with any AI personally until needed but im not sensitive to sides with gear and can use a decent amount before any issues at all. I'll add in thing like proviron or masteron to most cycles though So i'd suggest picking up a couple different types and see what suites you the best, and always have your AI's on hand before you start your run. Keep your Multi's, fish oil, and water intake up.
 
halfhuman said:
Making me want to go up to 150 lol
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150 is my sweet spot. Looked like a straight up beast man forreal.
Honestly I didn't expect much from oral trest but it definitely earned my respect at 150-200mg for 8 weeks. I bought 7 more bottles yesterday.
 
reps4jesus said:
150 is my sweet spot. Looked like a straight up beast man forreal.
Honestly I didn't expect much from oral trest but it definitely earned my respect at 150-200mg for 8 weeks. I bought 7 more bottles yesterday.
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Right on bro! That's how i like to order.....I'd love to find some one day lololol
 
reps4jesus said:
150 is my sweet spot. Looked like a straight up beast man forreal.
Honestly I didn't expect much from oral trest but it definitely earned my respect at 150-200mg for 8 weeks. I bought 7 more bottles yesterday.
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Ima go up to 150 f that lol. I trust what you're saying. I never went above 100 so this will definitely be interesting

Also how did you run it? Only oral or TD as well? Ran it with anything else?
 
halfhuman said:
Ima go up to 150 f that lol. I trust what you're saying. I never went above 100 so this will definitely be interesting

Also how did you run it? Only oral or TD as well? Ran it with anything else?
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Oral only, sides were very manageable. You'll like it man, be ready to blow up fast. Strength went up dangerously fast for me
 
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